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8 years 6 months ago #140064 by divemaster123
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Hello.I have just recieved a copy of my assessment report,I havent heard my results from dwp yet.On looking at my report the main glaring inconsistances are.
It says I walked to to room slowly,no mention that my son was supporting me to the door.

it states I was dress casualy and presentable,I hadnt had a shave for five days and was wearing flip flops and shorts with as press button shirt.

At the interview I was asked various memeory questions and words.I
wasnt asked any of these.

It states I was physically examined, I wasnt examined at all.

It states I could managed the toilet as I pulled myself up with aid of the sink.Mine is a toilet with nothing else in.

I am reported to be able to cook and wash myself apart from my lower body.Even when I put I need help to bathe and toilet and didnt cook at all now because of memory ans concentration level.
I wont go into rest of that part of exam,needless to say it all runs like that.

Mobility.Although I stated that I dont drive unless accompanied by someone and couldnt follow simple route etc.I was marked as a 0.
Walking I could probally managed 20 metres,I was put as walking 50 metre 2 points.

M,y question is,can I asked for a copy of the tapes showing me at the medical.Secondly how can Iprove he didnt do the tests he is saying he has done.

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8 years 6 months ago #140069 by Gordon
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divemaster

I assume you are referring to the CCTV at the assessment centre, in principle you can make a Subject Access Request for a copy of the recordings.

Write to the Assessment Provider, I would title the letter "Subject Access Request", you will need to specify exactly what you want them to send you a copy of and the date and time period to be covered. SARs can take up to 40 calendar days to be processed.

If you attended the assessment on your own then you make struggle to show that the information in the report is factually incorrect, the default position for the DWP is that it is an accurate reporting of your assessment.

Once you have a Decision we can advise further on your options, if necessary.

Gordon

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8 years 6 months ago #140345 by divemaster123
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Hello,
I have received my assessment and I am allow 4 years on lowest level of living.
I have made a complaint to ATOS stating I wasnt given a full medical.
In the atos reports does it normally state how the claiment takes his or her clothing off to be phyically examined and putting clothing back on.Nothing is mentioned in mine ,which I hope will prove no examination was done.
Atos states I use the sink to get on and off the toilet,mine is a separate toilet with nothing else in the room.
It was stated that my hearing was good even though I use a earing aid.The point of this one is I thought mine wasnt working until I had it checked out the day after the medical, and it proves my ear drum is completly blocked by wax.I have to go and have it syringed out next week and two weeks of drops still hasnt loosened it.
Most of the medical then says because I had allegelly done the phyical and passed the mental adding up and spelling a word backward,he came to the conclussion I could do everything by my self.
How do I go about doing the mandatory reconsideration process and do I send all my arguements with the mandatory reconderation letter.
Thank you.

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8 years 6 months ago #140370 by Gordon
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Divemaster

Some comments on the issues you have raised in your post.

The assessor does not have to specifically "test" you in regard to any of the Descriptors, so in regard to your Dressing and Undressing, they will be looking at your dexterity (can you manage buttons) and your reach (can you pull clothes over your head and up over your feet).

If you have problems getting on and off of the toilet then you should certainly challenge the comment that you use the sink, however, claimants tend to score points where an aid is required.

For you hearing to be considered you need to have had a restriction in your ability to hear for at least three months and to be expected to have it for a further nine months, it Is likely that they consider your ear wax problem as temporary, however much it restricts your hearing. Also, as you appear to have completed the assessment, apparently without problem, despite your hearing aid not working, this suggests that you struggle to score points for this problem.

You need to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process and template letters that you can use to make the request with.

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip

Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect.

Gordon

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8 years 6 months ago #140409 by divemaster123
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hI,
the examiner says he examined me phyically but he didnt and there was nothing in the report to say how I undressed or dressed.This is strange and hope that proves he didnt do it.
He also said my hearing was perfect at 3 metres,which with the problem of my wax issue is false.I have had my earing aid for 5 years.
I stated that I needed help to the toilet and to get off.
He then went on to say because of my low doseage for depression,im on citalopram 40 mg and cocodamol 30/500 for my lower back problems.In his opinion I have no trouble getting around .Also because he allegelly texted me mentally I could understand complex instructions etc.

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8 years 6 months ago #140419 by Gordon
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divemaster123 wrote: hI,
the examiner says he examined me phyically but he didnt and there was nothing in the report to say how I undressed or dressed.This is strange and hope that proves he didnt do it.
He also said my hearing was perfect at 3 metres,which with the problem of my wax issue is false.I have had my earing aid for 5 years.
I stated that I needed help to the toilet and to get off.
He then went on to say because of my low doseage for depression,im on citalopram 40 mg and cocodamol 30/500 for my lower back problems.In his opinion I have no trouble getting around .Also because he allegelly texted me mentally I could understand complex instructions etc.


The assessor will have drawn their conclusions from a wide range of observations some will be related to their questioning others will be the result of their observing you during the assessment, I'm not suggesting that their conclusions are necessarily accurate as a result of this process, but it can be difficult to argue against these opinions and is often not worth it as the default position of the Decision Maker will be that the report is accurate.

So they would not have specifically needed to see you undress and dress in order to comment on your ability, in fact it is almost unheard of for an assessor to ask a claimant to do this.

I mentioned buttons, they will have looked at your hands and what you do with them did you have problems signing your name at reception, did you use the door handle, did you shake their hand? Do you appear to have issues raising your hands above your head, can you use a phone and hold it your ear, is there anything to suggest that while seated you could not reach down to your feet in order to pull trousers and socks on.

Also you need to understand it is not about doing things in the way that a healthy person would it is about whether you can still do them, albeit in a different way, for example I used to be able to put my socks on by raising my feet onto the bed and leaning forward, now I have to sit down and stretch, it takes me longer but no more than twice the time that it used to.

I'm not suggesting that you ignore the issues of the assessment report, but you need concentrate on showing you meet the criteria first and then deal with the report by showing the that the assessors conclusions are incorrect.

Gordon

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