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11 years 3 months ago - 11 years 3 months ago #95944 by shrinathji
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Hi,
Can anyone advise, for the test on self propelling a wheel chair, if one has high BP and asthma as well as mobility problems, can they argue that they have upper body limitations as trying to self propel a wheelchair it would cause them severe breathlessness etc and go into more detail.

Thanks.

Radhika
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11 years 3 months ago - 11 years 3 months ago #95946 by
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radhika wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone advise, for the test on self propelling a wheel chair, if one has high BP and asthma as well as mobility problems, can they argue that they have upper body limitations as trying to self propel a wheelchair it would cause them severe breathlessness etc and go into more detail.

Thanks.

Radhika


Hi R,

Again it is the limitations caused by the medical conditions, rather than conditions themselves.

One would assume that Asthma, would result in breathlessness with all forms of exertion, as it is a cardio-respiratory condition.

If one suffered breathlessnes walking, it would be logical to assume that you may also suffer the same in manually propelling a wheelchair.( this can in fact be more strenuous )

It can be harder to prove this with Asthma, than COPD, as Asthma can be more variable.

Even though the threads below are more pertinent to COPD, you may still find some helpful information therein, (there are some there where I have advised on COPD) :

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=adv...name=1&childforums=1


bro58
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11 years 3 months ago #95998 by shrinathji
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Hi,

Many thanks for your reply and for the useful link you provided, which i must say was quite helpful.

However, in my original post i also mentioned high BP,do you know if this is also classesd as a cardiorespiratory condition????

I have tried to search on the forum but as yet not had any luck.

Any advise would be much appreciated, as high BP is causing breathlessness, fatigue and chest pains when under stress. Medication does help, but when under stress, or atempting strneous activities, problems mentioned earlier start to "kick in".

Many thanks.

Radhika.
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11 years 3 months ago #96003 by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
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We are not qualified to answer queries on specific medical conditions. However, my wife Pat, a former moderator and retired staff nurse provided the following information:

High blood pressure usually has no obvious symptoms and many people have it without knowing.

Untreated high blood pressure can lead to serious diseases, including stroke and heart disease. The only way to know if you have high blood pressure (medically known as hypertension) is to have your blood pressure measured. All adults should get their blood pressure checked at least once every five years.

In some rare cases, where a person has very high blood pressure, they can experience symptoms including:

a persistent headache

blurred or double vision

nosebleeds

shortness of breath

Visit your GP as soon as possible if you find that you have any of these symptoms.

PLEASE READ THE SPOTLIGHTS AREA OF THE FORUM REGULARLY, OTHERWISE YOU MAY MISS OUT ON IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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11 years 3 months ago - 11 years 3 months ago #96033 by
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radhika wrote:

Hi,

Many thanks for your reply and for the useful link you provided, which i must say was quite helpful.

However, in my original post i also mentioned high BP,do you know if this is also classesd as a cardiorespiratory condition????

I have tried to search on the forum but as yet not had any luck.

Any advise would be much appreciated, as high BP is causing breathlessness, fatigue and chest pains when under stress. Medication does help, but when under stress, or atempting strneous activities, problems mentioned earlier start to "kick in".

Many thanks.

Radhika.


Come on now R, :)

It is not the medical conditions in themselves, (other than those covered under Exceptional Circumstances Rules) that may qualify you for an award of ESA.

It is the resulting, “Limitations., Limitations, Limitations” which must fulfil the qualifying “Descriptors, Descriptors, Descriptors”. I think that I may be turning into a Tony Bliar clone, Oh No !!!! :laugh: :laugh:

All joking aside, this is how we must all start thinking with regards to ESA, no matter what the medical conditions may be.

Try to look at it from this viewpoint, you have the Medical Condition, (whatever it may be) preferably it has been diagnosed and confirmed by medical test.

You then have the limitations as a result of the Medical Condition.

You have to tie these limitations into the tight parameters of the relevant qualifying ESA descriptors.

Therefore, the approach could be, do I suffer from a medical condition? Yes, and I can prove it by providing evidence. (provide any written evidence that you may have)

On the balance of probabilities, are the limitations that I claim that I suffer from as a result of the above Medical Conditions, in line with what would be expected, with respect to the Medical Conditions ? Yes, and I can show this by giving X,Y,Z, as examples. (provide any written proof)

Are the resulting limitations relevant to any of the ESA qualifying descriptors ? If they are, state how, and why, and draw reference to the actual ESA descriptors that are pertinent to the limitations.( provide any written evidence, this could be in the form of letters of support from HCP’s, friends, relatives or carers, who know and have witnessed any limitations that may be suffered on a day to day basis)

Finally, even though you may feel that you qualify for an award of ESA in either group, with respect to one or more of the relevant Functional Descriptors, if you also feel that you may qualify under either of the Exceptional Circumstances Rules, as at Reg 29, (WRAG) or Reg 35, (SG), then state this, as a back up.

ATOS and The DWP DM are not supposed to consider qualification for either group, under Reg 29 or Reg 35, (Non Functional Descriptors) unless they feel that you do not qualify under any of the relevant Functional Descriptors.

Of course, in the fickle world of The ESA WCA, there are no guarantees, but the above is a pointer towards the type of approach that should be adopted.

bro58 :)
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11 years 3 months ago - 11 years 3 months ago #96035 by peggy2
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Hi Bro Have you read the following links re regulations 29 and 35 News provided by John Pring at www.disabilitynewsservice.com It says the following-

Two little-known government regulations could hold the key to helping thousands of sick and disabled people who have been unfairly found “fit for work”, according to a new campaign.
The grassroots, user-led group Black Triangle believes that persuading GPs to write letters to tribunals quoting one of two employment and support allowance (ESA) regulations could make it much easier for claimants to win appeals against the results of their work capability assessments (WCA).

Black Triangle says thousands of people are currently at risk of serious damage to their health because – as a result of their WCA – they are being forced to carry out work or work-related activity that they are not well enough to do. Black Triangle believes that persuading GPs to refer to regulations 29 or 35 – which date back to 2008 – could even save lives. Regulations state that a claimant should not be found fit for work (regulation 29), or placed in the work-related activity group (regulation 35), if such a decision would pose “a substantial risk” to their “mental or physical health”.
Black Triangle is calling on disabled people preparing for their appeal to ask their GP to fill in the gaps in a short draft letter.

The letter states that the physical or mental health of the patient would “more likely than not” be harmed if they were found fit for work, or even found to have “limited capability for work” (the work-related activity group, for those expected to move gradually towards the job market).
Dr Stephen Carty, medical adviser to Black Triangle, drafted the letter after consulting with a barrister and senior figures with links to the British Medical Association (BMA).
He has already used the letter to help five patients who were facing appeals.

I am going to ask my GP to provide a supporting letter ready for my ESA Assessment on 17th Dec as I do not think I can take any more from them
Meg
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