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Motability cars lost by 45% of DLA to PIP claimants

The BBC has obtained figures which show that 45% of disability living allowance (DLA) claimants with a Motability car lost it when they were assessed for personal independence payment (PIP).

According to the BBC, 31,200 Motability car users on the higher rate of the mobility component of DLA have been assessed for PIP. Of those, 17,300 people – 55% - have kept their car, but 13,900 – 45% - have had their car taken away because they no longer qualify.

Motability say they provide a support package, including a £2,000 grant to anyone who has their car taken away because of a PIP reassessment.

Meanwhile, Justin Tomlinson, the Minister for Disabled People, told the BBC that people's circumstances changed over time and it was right they should be reassessed.

"But rightly we have a system that allows for an appeal, a mandatory reconsideration and then if they're not satisfied with that they can go for an independent appeal, so there are lots of opportunities if a claimant thinks a decision is wrong to have that looked at again."

You can read the full story on the BBC website

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#16 SteveC 2016-02-16 13:29
Hi All
Just had phone call from Motability...
Motability wheelchair customers are dealt with on a case by case basis but essentially the interim package is £125... which can be used toward purchasing you chair from Motability ..
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This does not sound a lot when a custom power chair frequently costs over £9000!
+1 #15 MyelopathicMe 2016-02-11 23:08
Hello again

@ J the Divine B re car insurance

Because it was less than 3 years since I last had car insurance with my previous insurer (pre Motability) I was able to carry on my protected no claims bonus (9 years plus) and because my previous insurer was very competitively priced I went back to them. I never even contacted RSA for a recommendation - never entered my head to do so.

Kind regards
+1 #14 MyelopathicMe 2016-02-11 23:03
Hello there!

@ Steve C re support for users of powered wheelchairs.

I've had a quick look at the webpage - here's what it says

"Specialised mobility

I lease a scooter/powered wheelchair through Motability. What will happen to me?

If you are not awarded the Enhanced Rate of the Mobility Component of PIP, please contact us as soon as possible to let us know. As soon as the DWP confirms that you are no longer eligible for the Scheme, we will write to you giving you more information specific to your situation. In most cases we will try to work with you so that you can stay in your existing product. We will also enclose our Staying mobile after Motability guide Will download a resource(PDF 973KB) , which will also be available to view online shortly. This mentions a number of useful resources for additional advice and future support."

Here's the link
www.motability.co.uk/understanding-the-scheme/personal-independence-payment-and-motability/q-and-a-transitional-support-package#mobility

Awful situation to be in - hope it resolves in your favour.

Kind regards
#13 Jim Allison 2016-02-11 22:37
Quoting buster:
Surely people should be allowed to keep their mobility car until an appeal has been heard? Especially considering the fact that at least 60 % of those appealing will win their appeal to keep their cars. They (the government) are taking away vital transport from the crippled and other disabled people on a wing and a prayer - hoping they don't have the energy to fight for the limited independence they might have. What an absolute despicable bunch of Tories they are.
Buster


That was what used to happen, they could keep their vehicle until their appeal had been heard. However, when the coalition got into power the time for appeals rose higher & higher until Motability as a charity couldn't keep up the money they were losing. I sat on DLA Tribunals for over ten years and it was employing private medical companies to carry out assessments that led to the current situatIon.Plus of course slashing the distance from 50 metres to just 20 metres, as ordered by IDS.
#12 Jim Allison 2016-02-11 22:27
Quoting SteveC:
Does anyone know if there is any support for those of us who get a powered wheelchair through Motability if we loose the high rate ?... I have e-mailed Motability and am waiting for a response... At the moment I am still on DLA and waiting to be reassessed...


My information is that there will be no assistance to those who fail to get PIP Enhanced Mobility Component. However, you be able to get a powered wheelchair through the NHS. I use my DLA HRM for a car. I got my first powered wheelchair more 12 years ago via the NHS. I've had three to date. See : http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/Pages/mobility-equipment-wheelchairs-scooters.aspx
+1 #11 J The Divine B 2016-02-11 13:13
Be wary of verbal or written recommendations from Motability's RSA insurers where you have had your higher rate mobility award taken away in transfer from DLA to PIP.
One recommended insurance company quoted me a premium FIVE times and another quoted TWO times higher than what one eventually obtained via a comparison site.

PS
1 Be not surprised if you have one's experience where the DWP Wolverhampton local office. refused to acknowledge or respond to several recorded delivery concerns/querie s and which office omitted to send 75% of original supporting medical and evidential documentation to Atos who also refused many requests to corroborate exactly what evidence was received/not received from DWP. One had to tenaciously push via other DWP sources to eventually obtain copies of the evidence bundles that were in fact photocopied and presumably sent to Atos.

2 Be aware that Wolverhampton(a nd likely all other) local office often stamps one's medical and supportive documents with" POOR QUALITY ORIGINAL"---eve n when the document is quite legible. Atos (and no doubt Capita) then stated in one's PA4 consultation report that they therefore did not consider such evidence. Also 75% of GP/A&E/Hospital consultants and specialist/Loca l support services reports were not considered.
+1 #10 SteveC 2016-02-11 12:18
Does anyone know if there is any support for those of us who get a powered wheelchair through Motability if we loose the high rate ?... I have e-mailed Motability and am waiting for a response... At the moment I am still on DLA and waiting to be reassessed...
+1 #9 SteveC 2016-02-11 12:04
Can anyone tell me if the people who use the motability scheme for powered wheelchairs and scooter would receive the same sort of package? I know that despite taking the full amount for 5 years wheelchair users only get £100 at the end of their agreement
+1 #8 sully32 2016-02-10 15:38
Not every one gets the 2,000 pounds transitional package I had to return my car in july 2015 but was told as I had only been in the sceme for 12 months I was not entitled to it I did receive 250.00 for returning the car in good condition so I think the same rule should apply in all cases because the 2,000 would have been a grate help in getting another car
+2 #7 stevie mac 2016-02-09 20:12
how can anybody in the UK vote these scumbags into goverment unless your a millionaire the only people that can keep them in is england the biggest country of the 4 no matter whos in charge of the tories they will always hammer the poorest in the uk IDS AND CAMERON AND OSBOURNE THATCHER THEY ARE ALL OFF THE SAME SCUM BREED THEY DONT WANT TO SEE WORKING PEOPLE OR DISABLED HAVE A LIFE REMEMBER CUTS CUTS
+3 #6 Sharon 2016-02-08 19:22
I no longer use that part of the disability allowance. I lost one car and vowed I wouldn't go through that again. I've been now had a medical at home after my MP's intervention. I just can't cope mentally with all this waiting and I have felt so suicidal. I don't want to be ill! I'd love to be well. Do they think that I love being a prisoner in my own home?
+4 #5 sheilah 2016-02-08 19:11
DWP have been phoning people with no warning, asking them to consider allowing a paper reassessment of their needs based upon previous DLA claim. What they do not say is that firstly, they often destroy evidence, you do not know how complete the evidence on file is and also, the criteria for PIP ARE DIFFERENT, WHICH THEY ALSO FAIL TO MENTION. sAY THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE A PROPER APPLICATION, MAKE A SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST TO dwp TO GET A COPY OF WHAT THEY HAVE ON FILE. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dwp-request-for-personal-information uSE THE EXCELLENT GUIDES ON HERE
+4 #4 terry 2016-02-06 17:20
They have not finished yet.More to follow.
+8 #3 MyelopathicMe 2016-02-04 17:32
This has happened to me. In my case I've been given transitional support but have still had to borrow enough to buy my motability car, which has put untold pressure on my finances. Yes I am appealing but in the meantime you still have to either buy the car or hand it back and obviously you have to find the money for tax, MOT, insurance, breakdown & repairs if you buy your car - no mean feat when unable to work so to me it is like State-sanctione d knee capping. :-(
+6 #2 pusscatsmum 2016-02-04 16:47
My understanding is that those 'invited' to claim PIP now are those predominately receiving High rate care and or mobility with DLA, therefore the 45% stated that lose their car is more like 70% overall in the 'invited' claims and new ones.
Skewing statistical data is easy moreover complicit with media coverage to widen the gap for those who wish all of us sick and disabled 'gone'!!!
+12 #1 buster 2016-02-04 13:25
Surely people should be allowed to keep their mobility car until an appeal has been heard? Especially considering the fact that at least 60 % of those appealing will win their appeal to keep their cars. They (the government) are taking away vital transport from the crippled and other disabled people on a wing and a prayer - hoping they don't have the energy to fight for the limited independence they might have. What an absolute despicable bunch of Tories they are.

Buster

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