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5 years 9 months ago #214759 by Gordon
So the phone is a poor argument by the assessor, the test is what your son can do reliably do on the majority of days but understand what the criteria for this activity is as it is a strict test.
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marcus wrote: But the assessor was saying that social history shows he’s a mobile phone user so can communicate. In his evidence on the report he mentions that he saw my son using a mobile phone which he didn’t he only saw he had the mobile. The report was missing large parts of the conversation about his gcses and the phone. My son performed terribly at the 7’a test and was asked on two occasions to try again with another answer even after taking a long time answering in the first place. The three words test he asked my son to remember the words then asked me further questions and then asked him the words. He had been trying so hard to remember but could only remember two.
So the phone is a poor argument by the assessor, the test is what your son can do reliably do on the majority of days but understand what the criteria for this activity is as it is a strict test.
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5 years 9 months ago #214761 by mjs251176
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These cognitive tests. I can’t find any guides on doing them is there a guideline for them?
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5 years 9 months ago #214762 by Gordon
These are simple/basic tests used by doctors to test for any cognitive impairment, they are not definitive; so someone failing them does not necessarily have an issue and passing them does not mean that they do, assessors and DMs place far to much importance on the results.
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marcus wrote: These cognitive tests. I can’t find any guides on doing them is there a guideline for them?
These are simple/basic tests used by doctors to test for any cognitive impairment, they are not definitive; so someone failing them does not necessarily have an issue and passing them does not mean that they do, assessors and DMs place far to much importance on the results.
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5 years 9 months ago #214764 by mjs251176
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I have to agree. My sons original cognitive tests took a long time to get done but he hasn’t really been tested since and he was 8 then. These test seemed very amateurish and almost and excuse. I sent those reports in as further evidence yesterday with a letter from his head. The letter from his head said that he looks more able than he is and that he needs support and encouragement when doing anything so hopefully that may give a better picture than the atos report. Does the MP’s asking about the reports have any effect ever?
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5 years 9 months ago #214788 by Gordon
MPs cannot interfere in a legal process, making a Decision on a benefit claim is a legal process, however, this does not mean that they cannot have an effect, they can certainly expedite a process and they can make the DWP look more seriously at an aspect of the process, for example a Paper Based Review or Home Assessment over one at the Assessment Provider's offices.
But there is little that they can in regard a Decision, so I don't think that their asking about the reports will have any specific effect, they are not medically trained and I would be surprised if they have any access to anybody with training in disability assessment.
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marcus wrote: Does the MP’s asking about the reports have any effect ever?
MPs cannot interfere in a legal process, making a Decision on a benefit claim is a legal process, however, this does not mean that they cannot have an effect, they can certainly expedite a process and they can make the DWP look more seriously at an aspect of the process, for example a Paper Based Review or Home Assessment over one at the Assessment Provider's offices.
But there is little that they can in regard a Decision, so I don't think that their asking about the reports will have any specific effect, they are not medically trained and I would be surprised if they have any access to anybody with training in disability assessment.
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5 years 9 months ago #214893 by samantha
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I had the exact same thing for my 16 year old son! We had a f2f in a assessment centre. It was horrible getting him there, he is 6ft tall and over 200lb, he refused getting out of the car, no parking close by. In the waiting room he kept on trying to escape then cried while hugging me, yet report says he recognised his name and walked to the room.
In the room he again wanted to escape so we gave him a mobile phone so he could play a game to distract him, the entire bloody report is all based on how he was able to hold a console and stay focused. The game he played was very immature, he sat facing his back to her, he punched the wall when the game went off and he did not know how to turn it back on, but all this was not mentioned. The last questions he refused to participate, but eventually did because i promised him a frapucino. She said he was able to spell a word backwards but this was done with help, the money question he wrote the answer on paper using drawed coins and not numbers. He forgot the 3 words but she said he completed all tasks. She even said he was able to engage well, like i said he faced her with his back and i answered all questions.
And dont get me started about the GCSE, my son also does his GCSE but with a 1:1, extra time, computer based, full EHCP, individual room and even then it looks like he wont do any better then a D. The report keeps repeating how he is sitting his GCSE therefore he is capable.
We have no decision yet but just very upset that they lie about a child.
Wishing you and your son all the best.
In the room he again wanted to escape so we gave him a mobile phone so he could play a game to distract him, the entire bloody report is all based on how he was able to hold a console and stay focused. The game he played was very immature, he sat facing his back to her, he punched the wall when the game went off and he did not know how to turn it back on, but all this was not mentioned. The last questions he refused to participate, but eventually did because i promised him a frapucino. She said he was able to spell a word backwards but this was done with help, the money question he wrote the answer on paper using drawed coins and not numbers. He forgot the 3 words but she said he completed all tasks. She even said he was able to engage well, like i said he faced her with his back and i answered all questions.
And dont get me started about the GCSE, my son also does his GCSE but with a 1:1, extra time, computer based, full EHCP, individual room and even then it looks like he wont do any better then a D. The report keeps repeating how he is sitting his GCSE therefore he is capable.
We have no decision yet but just very upset that they lie about a child.
Wishing you and your son all the best.
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