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The DWP has been issuing confusing and conflicting information about which claimants in the most recent Disability Living Allowance (DLA) to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) transfer (reassessment) areas will have to claim PIP and which claimants will be sent a DLA renewal form.

The problem has been compounded by PIP helpline staff not being properly briefed about who is affected.

Having raised the issue with the DWP, Benefits and Work understands that; for claimants who live in the DLA to PIP transfer areas which came into force on 3rd February (LA, CA, DL, HG & YO) you will be invited to claim PIP if:

  • your fixed term DLA award ends on or after 23rd June 2014 or

  • you reach the age of 16 or

  • you report a change in your care and/or mobility needs

If, however, your fixed term award is due to end before 23rd June, you should be sent a DLA renewal claim form.

This is because the DWP sends out renewal forms 20 weeks in advance of an award ending, to allow claimants time to complete and return it before the award ceases.

Therefore, they are allowing 20 weeks after the 3rd February before inviting DLA claimants in the new reassessment areas to claim PIP.

Although it has not been confirmed, Benefits and Work believes that this situation should also apply to those claimants living in the DG, ML, EH and TD postcode areas, which came under the reassessment process on 13th January 2014.

In these cases, following the same principles, claimants whose fixed term awards end on or after 2nd June 2014 will be invited to claim PIP.

In any case, if you receive the renewal DLA form, it is correct to complete and return this form. Any ‘invitation’ to claim PIP should be made towards the end of any new fixed term award, or sometime after October 2015, whichever is the sooner.

As stated above, this has yet to be confirmed in writing by the DWP. As soon as it is, we will inform our members.

In the meantime, if you are in any doubt, please speak to the helpline staff at the DWP who should now be able to give claimants accurate advice on what they need to do.

The DWP has (since this article was first published) updated the factsheet on its website, which confirms this information:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/275656/pip-toolkit-factsheet-reassessment.pdf

Comments  

#15 maggieomx 2015-02-05 11:53
Quoting Deb:
We live in a catchment are for DLA/PIP conversion, but my partner (claimant) has not reporter any change of circumstances and was awarded DLA indefinited in 2013. The DWP confirmed that their are no reported changes in circumstances.. The 'randomly selecting claimant only starts after Oct 2015...

Has anyone else had an request to apply for PiP early (before the oct 15 Published date) but who does not meet exceptions (dla claim ending/change of circumstances etc.

i have im on indefinite dla and not reported any changes but I got a letter to transfer to pip by 18th feb ,
#14 maggieomx 2015-02-05 11:47
is there anyone that answers these quotes or comments ? please ?
#13 maggieomx 2015-01-25 21:07
im on D.L.A indefinite and have just got a letter to change from D,L,A TO P.I,P, in Manchester m22 postcode I thought I wasn't getting my change over letter till at least after October 2015 ????

why have I got the letter so soon ??
#12 Deb 2014-09-06 17:11
We live in a catchment are for DLA/PIP conversion, but my partner (claimant) has not reporter any change of circumstances and was awarded DLA indefinited in 2013. The DWP confirmed that their are no reported changes in circumstances.. The 'randomly selecting claimant only starts after Oct 2015...

Has anyone else had an request to apply for PiP early (before the oct 15 Published date) but who does not meet exceptions (dla claim ending/change of circumstances etc.
#11 David Chamberlain 2014-03-05 01:16
I have indefinite award but recently advised DWP of change in circs/deteriora tion in condition. I have been sent a PIP application and told my DLA will stop if not completed and returned. Is this correct? Can I retract the change of circs as I have now been told that it is not a relevant change as it would not result in my award increasing?
#10 Forrest 2014-02-13 20:53
Those who are currently on DLA do not need to do anything until DWP writes to you. The only exception is if you need to report a change of circumstances, which you do in the normal way.

If you have an expiring fixed-term DLA award, you will receive a letter 20 weeks before your current award ends. Either this will be a DLA claim pack to renew under DLA rules or a letter giving you a time limit to phone to start a PIP claim - it depends where you live and where your award expires as to when this happens. You do not choose which regime - DWP do that for you.

Anyone with a lifetime or indefinite DLA award is not affected by PIP until at least October 2015 unless they wish to convert to PIP voluntarily.
#9 vanessa 2014-02-12 14:33
i hsve life time awrd i dont undrstand t be honest, i got that then couple years later i became more ill i had brain hemmorage followe by a stroke we contacted dwp blackpool to tell them my health had changed ok worse i no, but there reply was you need not bothered t tell us you in worse health well it says any change does it not they said we dont need to no your worse, now i had letter saying how much dla i get doesnt send a form i realy dont get it there is a bit on back about pip but doesnt tell me to do anything im confused by it all any ideas please
#8 Welshmammy 2014-02-11 12:27
I live in postcode CF (not listed which perhaps would fall under CA), I have a fixed term award coming to an end on 13 June 2014. I have received an invitation letter to apply for PIP. I contacted the DWP to check if I should be claiming DLA and not PIP. I was told I have to claim PIP.
#7 Welshmammy 2014-02-11 12:23
I have just rung DLA to ask them if this information is correct as I have a fixed term award ending on the 13 June 2014. They told me I have to apply for PIP.
#6 Meloddie 2014-02-11 10:56
my daughter is on idefinate DLA award and were in TD postcode, I called them up on 15th Jan to see if could make claim for PIP and they checked and said yes, so have started the process have already sent back the assesment form so imagine you can claim if you want to as we did, I don't think they would started process or sent out forms if weren't allowed to claim!
#5 Meloddie 2014-02-10 18:07
I am my daughters Benefit Appointee and we live in TD postcode area and after reading what I did on this site I thought she had right to claim PIP if wanted to she has indefinate award, so I phoned them up to ask if it was true and they checked and said yes you can claim PIP if you want to as in TD area, so started the process online and have now sent off the PIP assesment form for it to be assesed, will this get processed then, very confused now as to whetther the PIP application will get processed now.
+1 #4 Sangeetae 2014-02-10 15:21
Please read this page for more on the PIP timetable, including if you have an indefinite award;

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-timetable

Looks like it will be after Oct 2015 and before Oct 2017.
#3 little_wing 2014-02-10 15:18
I'm the same as angela...I have an indefinite award...what will happen to these, please?
+1 #2 Peter 2014-02-08 14:38
yep you will be on the list to check if your legs have grown back, or that your brain has regrown or that wheelchair you have used all your life was just for show, or all that help you need to get dressed because you are paralysed so, no such thing you will be checked every time they want to sorry track record is refuse your claim, you appeal to DWP, appeal dismissed, you go to tribunal and re awarded pip backdated the 2 year wait then you get a new medical for PIP, DWP refuse claim etc..
+4 #1 angela 2014-02-08 09:09
Can anyone advise me as what happens if you have been awarded your DLA indefinitely as I am in the post code la which has just come in

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