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Back in 2014, Benefits and Work first broke the news that repeat work capability assessments were being deferred for two years because of the massive backlog built up by Atos.

Now, under Maximus, there is evidence that further deferrals may be taking place.

We have heard from a number of posters on the forum who say that they have been told that an expected review of their employment and support allowance award will not now take place.

One poster told us:

“I was meant to be reassessed for ESA in 2015, but it was deferred because of the backlog. I expected the form sometime this month, but at a recent WFI my work coach said that it had been deferred for another two years.”

Another wrote:

“The same thing happened to me as I have previously posted. I was due to be reassessed Jan 2017 but when I rang DWP was advised it had been put back to Jan 2019.”

A third has remained without a review for even longer:

“Same here. Paper assessment 2009, support group, paper assessment 2012, support group. Nothing since, nearly five years now.”

Another member also phoned the DWP to find out when they were due for reassessment:

“My paperwork stated I was due for reassessment December 2016 but when I finally plucked up courage to ring up yesterday they said it was now December 2018.”

We’d be very interested to hear from other readers about whether your WCA has been deferred or not and, also, which group you are in: support group or work-related activity group. You can comment below.

Comments  

#141 Carl 2017-10-31 10:09
Quoting micksville:
Quoting Teresa:
I received my ESA50 just before Christmas last year and have finally got my benefit back after an appeal tribunal found in my favour two weeks ago. I had been told my reassessment date was August 2017, so deferments don't automatically mean what they say. Now after almost a year of stress, including a nightmare period on JSA, my depression and anxiety is considerably worse. I have also been told by a woman from the CAB that the two year recommendation for reassessment means nothing and the DWP are routinely calling people back after one year. There is no way I can got through all this again in 12 months. This is inhuman treatment.


Entirely my point Teresa sounds like you were originally due this august but were contacted some 8 months early. Myself, i reached the date I was due this summer but they have deferred again for 2 years. When i called I was told this wasn't always set in stone and that I might be called earlier which i don't have an issue with. But that the date of August 2019 was now the maximum amount of time before I might be reviewed I certainly think they're cherry picking the cases.



Hi, I sent an email to the JCP and their reply was the exact date for being 're assessed. Nothing before it, it was 3mths after the date I had the esa50 to complete. My 're assessed date was 18/12/16.
#140 micksville 2017-10-30 23:01
Quoting Teresa:
I received my ESA50 just before Christmas last year and have finally got my benefit back after an appeal tribunal found in my favour two weeks ago. I had been told my reassessment date was August 2017, so deferments don't automatically mean what they say. Now after almost a year of stress, including a nightmare period on JSA, my depression and anxiety is considerably worse. I have also been told by a woman from the CAB that the two year recommendation for reassessment means nothing and the DWP are routinely calling people back after one year. There is no way I can got through all this again in 12 months. This is inhuman treatment.


Entirely my point Teresa sounds like you were originally due this august but were contacted some 8 months early. Myself, i reached the date I was due this summer but they have deferred again for 2 years. When i called I was told this wasn't always set in stone and that I might be called earlier which i don't have an issue with. But that the date of August 2019 was now the maximum amount of time before I might be reviewed I certainly think they're cherry picking the cases.
#139 Teresa 2017-10-28 21:00
I received my ESA50 just before Christmas last year and have finally got my benefit back after an appeal tribunal found in my favour two weeks ago. I had been told my reassessment date was August 2017, so deferments don't automatically mean what they say. Now after almost a year of stress, including a nightmare period on JSA, my depression and anxiety is considerably worse. I have also been told by a woman from the CAB that the two year recommendation for reassessment means nothing and the DWP are routinely calling people back after one year. There is no way I can got through all this again in 12 months. This is inhuman treatment.
#138 Chris29 2017-10-28 12:03
Hi Mick

I think its the DWP that does the deferral not maximus. Once maximus receive the referral they are obliged to carry out the assessment.

I think its highly probable the DWP are cherry picking yes, the likelihood I expect is those who have the shortest prognosis time are prioritised for reassessment as typically a shorter time means a weaker case for long term incapacity.

In regards to my own case, my appointment got cancelled by maximus and I am still awaiting a new date.

This whole process completely wrecks me, I have no motivation to do anything and am scared since I have no one to lean on if I am cut off from my support.
#137 Carl 2017-10-28 11:48
Quoting micksville:
I haven't posted on this thread for a few months but previously had posted to say my assessment due in spring of this year, 2017 had been deferred yet again to spring of 2019. I know of one other in my area who had re assessment this summer though not sure what group she was in wrag or SG, Learned today however that another lady who lives in same town as me was due her re assessment in 2018 and they brought her's forward. She had the re assessment at roughly same time as my scheduled re assessment was due to take place.So they brought hers forward but deferred mine two years at same time. To me, that suggests they are getting on top of backlogs and staff levels ( in my area) are not an issue, so does it perhaps suggest Maximus are cherry picking the claimants they think easier to get off the benefit first ( Both those I mentioned failed) One won MR the other is in process of appealing. I believe mine to be a strong claim (SG) and cherry picking seems the only logical conclusion for this otherwise why bring one claimants review forward a year at same time as deferring mine two years? Thoughts......



My assessment was for review 18/12/16, after the previous wca date being 16/04/14. As in the Support Group there was no deferred wca, it's possible of the area we live why they are deferred.
I had my assessment two weeks ago and my results was to remain in the Support Group. They when assessed try to trip you up on questions you've already answered in the esa50, so copy your answers and check the day you go to the wca.
Backlog is an issue with deferred assessment, don't hold your breath as they as said cherry pick. Good luck.
#136 micksville 2017-10-28 00:39
I haven't posted on this thread for a few months but previously had posted to say my assessment due in spring of this year, 2017 had been deferred yet again to spring of 2019. I know of one other in my area who had re assessment this summer though not sure what group she was in wrag or SG, Learned today however that another lady who lives in same town as me was due her re assessment in 2018 and they brought her's forward. She had the re assessment at roughly same time as my scheduled re assessment was due to take place.So they brought hers forward but deferred mine two years at same time. To me, that suggests they are getting on top of backlogs and staff levels ( in my area) are not an issue, so does it perhaps suggest Maximus are cherry picking the claimants they think easier to get off the benefit first ( Both those I mentioned failed) One won MR the other is in process of appealing. I believe mine to be a strong claim (SG) and cherry picking seems the only logical conclusion for this otherwise why bring one claimants review forward a year at same time as deferring mine two years? Thoughts......
#135 Carl 2017-09-22 19:50
Quoting Chris29:
So an update, as expected even when I provided detailed information I now have a request to attend a face to face, some information sent also made it clear if I was found fit for work it would have an adverse affect on my health, backed by 2 medical professionals, this obviously made no difference. I suppose it did take them 2 months to send the letter instead of the usual 2-3 weeks. I have made the request for a recording and this will be my first face to face with maximus. Usually I only send the ESA50 so when I hit them with the evidence on the face to face they struggle to react to it properly, but now I am worried since I sent it earlier they may have prepared a response to my evidence already. As I am aware face to face is a fit for work by default unless the claimant proves otherwise.


Well Chris, i've done the same as of mega amount of paper work they received, my assessment is on 13/10/17. The assessment is to deprive us of what we're entitled to. No empathy, no concideration,i t's just maximum greed. I will let you know my outcome as soon as. Best of luck to you.
#134 Chris29 2017-09-22 11:46
So an update, as expected even when I provided detailed information I now have a request to attend a face to face, some information sent also made it clear if I was found fit for work it would have an adverse affect on my health, backed by 2 medical professionals, this obviously made no difference. I suppose it did take them 2 months to send the letter instead of the usual 2-3 weeks. I have made the request for a recording and this will be my first face to face with maximus. Usually I only send the ESA50 so when I hit them with the evidence on the face to face they struggle to react to it properly, but now I am worried since I sent it earlier they may have prepared a response to my evidence already. As I am aware face to face is a fit for work by default unless the claimant proves otherwise.
#133 Carl 2017-09-12 16:25
Quoting Ian:
Been on Incapacity Benefit from about 1996 - I was initially put in Support Group after reconsideration but no face to face in 2013; ESA 50 returned again and reassessed, put in Support Group no face to face in March 2016, then summoned for Face to Face in October 2016, but this turned out to be a mistake, although they never said so much directly!
Now it is just September 2017 and another ESA 50 form has landed, so no, there is no delay apparent here!
I have severe Osteoarthritis in spine and multiple joints and can now walk no more than about 5m even with crutches, (as well as other significant conditions) - so no miracle cures are going to happen to me ether. I would need a home visit if a face to face visit is needed and even though I have a letter from my Doctor to this effect, clearly there is still an ongoing plan to hassle those with long standing conditions :-(


Correct, no matter what the disability and conditions are, they will still try and deny our entitlement. I have been to and from the wca since 2001 to date, that obviously still ain't got through to them. I have degenerative disc and spine discease, arthritis to my left side and foot, tennis elbow, deafness to my right ear and deterated left ear.
Just had an operation on my shoulder. Target's is what they want, and they don't care who's lives they ruin.
#132 Ian 2017-09-12 13:28
Been on Incapacity Benefit from about 1996 - I was initially put in Support Group after reconsideration but no face to face in 2013; ESA 50 returned again and reassessed, put in Support Group no face to face in March 2016, then summoned for Face to Face in October 2016, but this turned out to be a mistake, although they never said so much directly!
Now it is just September 2017 and another ESA 50 form has landed, so no, there is no delay apparent here!
I have severe Osteoarthritis in spine and multiple joints and can now walk no more than about 5m even with crutches, (as well as other significant conditions) - so no miracle cures are going to happen to me ether. I would need a home visit if a face to face visit is needed and even though I have a letter from my Doctor to this effect, clearly there is still an ongoing plan to hassle those with long standing conditions :-(
#131 Carl 2017-09-12 13:18
Quote:
H there, I was first assessed for ESA in 2011; I was placed in support group with no F2F. I was reviewed in 2012 and remained in support group with no F2F for a period of 3 years. I telephoned the DWP after not receiving my ESA50 in March 2015, I was told that my reassessment had been deferred until 2017.

I received my ESA 50 in April this year, which they received at the beginning May. I telephoned the DWP in August for an update, informed that my claim was still with Maximus. My ESA payments are still being received, but I have had no contact with Maximus or DWP to date (12/9/17).

I have degenerative neurological condition, so I too was hoping to be exempt from further WCA’s after Damian Green’s statement last Autumn – sadly not so.

I will be contacting my MP if I have not heard anything by next month, as it will have been 5 months since they received my ESA 50 – the waiting is doing my head in!
I gave the DWP access to my medical records, it's done not one bit of good. I got my wca Monday coming, I will look at it as they are there to remove the benefits we are entitled to. All the information they received will be with me on that date as I got copies of everything that they have.
I will just answer the questions they fire at me, I will not be performing any tasks when asked at the end of the assessment. I've even told them this in the paper work.
I will look at it they will give me nothing, so after I received the paper work telling me so, that will be the start of a MR , then a 13wk fit note, then a tribunal.
Maximus work for the DWP, the DWP work for the government, the government couldn't care less about anyone whatsoever.
#130 John A 2017-09-12 12:13
H there, I was first assessed for ESA in 2011; I was placed in support group with no F2F. I was reviewed in 2012 and remained in support group with no F2F for a period of 3 years. I telephoned the DWP after not receiving my ESA50 in March 2015, I was told that my reassessment had been deferred until 2017.

I received my ESA 50 in April this year, which they received at the beginning May. I telephoned the DWP in August for an update, informed that my claim was still with Maximus. My ESA payments are still being received, but I have had no contact with Maximus or DWP to date (12/9/17).

I have degenerative neurological condition, so I too was hoping to be exempt from further WCA’s after Damian Green’s statement last Autumn – sadly not so.

I will be contacting my MP if I have not heard anything by next month, as it will have been 5 months since they received my ESA 50 – the waiting is doing my head in!
#129 SJ 2017-07-27 15:00
Quoting Chris29:

Thats good news, but I cannot confirm what you said about failing to return the form, I didnt receive a form when I should have (and as a result didnt return it) about 4 years ago and was in the SG, I then got found fit for work as a result. I was very lucky that I had strong evidence to make them reconsider it, although I still had to have the WCA but at least got the fit for work reverted.

Generally if the form isnt returned and they dont accept your reason, then not only are you found fit for work there is these 2 caveats.

1 - If you appeal you cannot get payments whilst appealing like from a failed WCA.
2 - You cannot just right away make a new claim as there is not the 6 month gap from the decision.


Didn't you receive a letter for a face-to-face assessment either? They're not supposed to be able to find you fit for work without having had, or failed to attend, a face-to-face assessment.

I can't say what the current policy is, and I don't know what the policy was before my assessment two years ago, but Maximus told me in June 2015 that because they'd previously recommended me for the SG, DWP process said they had to go to my GP for further information to see if they could give advice without a face-to-face assessment. (I was going to copy and paste exactly what they said, but the email says it's confidential.)

I assume it's part of DWP's new-ish idea of safeguarding the most vulnerable claimants.

I wouldn't recommend failing to return an ESA50, but I'd assumed I would lose my ESA because of it and that didn't happen.
#128 Chris29 2017-07-26 02:06
Quote:
Quoting Chris29:
Unless you have it in writing that the form was in error you should fill and return it, the consequences of failing to do so is worse than been found fit for work in a WCA.


In my case, I have it in writing in an email. I also checked with Maximus and they confirmed that my referral had been withdrawn.

I failed to return the ESA50 last time I was reassessed, because Maximus lied and said that I could have more time to return it but then followed the usual procedure once the deadline arrived. What they don't tell you -- or at least what happened to me in 2015 -- is that if you're already in the SG and you fail to return an ESA50, they go to your GP for advice on your capability for work instead. Which ended up just being a list of my medical conditions, and I was put back in SG, so why the hell they have to hassle everyone I don't know.
Thats good news, but I cannot confirm what you said about failing to return the form, I didnt receive a form when I should have (and as a result didnt return it) about 4 years ago and was in the SG, I then got found fit for work as a result. I was very lucky that I had strong evidence to make them reconsider it, although I still had to have the WCA but at least got the fit for work reverted.

Generally if the form isnt returned and they dont accept your reason, then not only are you found fit for work there is these 2 caveats.

1 - If you appeal you cannot get payments whilst appealing like from a failed WCA.
2 - You cannot just right away make a new claim as there is not the 6 month gap from the decision.
#127 SJ 2017-07-25 16:16
Quoting Carl:

Your correct, they just don't care. As so many have had defferals it's telling them for instance 2yrs and yet the esa50 will come through the post when it suits them.
Mine as said was with them 14wks ago this Friday, not heard a whisper as of yet. Either they have so many to process or have a massive back log. Please post any information you receive. Bye for now.


I think a backlog is why they've deferred reassessments again. It may be worth checking though as I didn't receive a letter about the outcome of my last two reassessments, so I was worrying about it for far longer than I needed to. I don't know if Maximus do all the ESA assessments now but you can email them and they can tell you whether they've given advice to DWP yet on your claim. Otherwise it means contacting DWP, or just waiting.
#126 Carl 2017-07-25 16:13
Quoting Asbo:
Quoting Carl:
Quoting TwistedWitch :
I posted earlier in this thread. My paper assessment back in 2013 was Support Group for one year, but that was subsequently deferred and didn't pop up again until March this year, to be returned by 7th April. After an agonising 15 week wait I finally heard this morning. Support Group on a paper assessment. A phone call informed me that I have been granted this for 36 months. It took me 45 minutes and a phone call to my Daughter before I had the courage to open it and then I got hysterical with relief. Someone asked earlier if they knew what they were doing, of course they do and they don't ruddy well care.

,
Correct they don't care as its all laid out by the government, they got bide by the WCA hand book. It's great news for you as getting what your entitled to.
As I mentioned on here that the dwp had my paper work 14wks this Friday, that's a long time to not know what they want from me. So it could well be that they are doing a paper assessment rather than a wca. I was advised from another forum that it's possible being a paper assessment as they take longer in the reply from the dwp. I hope they are doing a paper assessment as we all know that going to a wca adds more stress and exacerbate our conditions.
Keep you updated. Bye for now.


I got into SG very quickly with paper assessment last time (this was in 2013). I don't think the length of time means anything. I have just got another ESA and as it's with Maximus now and numbers are dropping in SG I;m shit scared.though I do have good GP support


Well well, as it be I just today received a letter from Maximus and I have to attend another WCA next month.
Myself with what they received was a GP Support Letter, one as well from my Local MP, and a Friend, some good that was, or as said never bothered reading it.
#125 SJ 2017-07-25 16:05
Quoting Chris29:
Unless you have it in writing that the form was in error you should fill and return it, the consequences of failing to do so is worse than been found fit for work in a WCA.


In my case, I have it in writing in an email. I also checked with Maximus and they confirmed that my referral had been withdrawn.

I failed to return the ESA50 last time I was reassessed, because Maximus lied and said that I could have more time to return it but then followed the usual procedure once the deadline arrived. What they don't tell you -- or at least what happened to me in 2015 -- is that if you're already in the SG and you fail to return an ESA50, they go to your GP for advice on your capability for work instead. Which ended up just being a list of my medical conditions, and I was put back in SG, so why the hell they have to hassle everyone I don't know.
#124 Asbo 2017-07-25 14:49
Quoting Carl:
Quoting TwistedWitch :
I posted earlier in this thread. My paper assessment back in 2013 was Support Group for one year, but that was subsequently deferred and didn't pop up again until March this year, to be returned by 7th April. After an agonising 15 week wait I finally heard this morning. Support Group on a paper assessment. A phone call informed me that I have been granted this for 36 months. It took me 45 minutes and a phone call to my Daughter before I had the courage to open it and then I got hysterical with relief. Someone asked earlier if they knew what they were doing, of course they do and they don't ruddy well care.

,
Correct they don't care as its all laid out by the government, they got bide by the WCA hand book. It's great news for you as getting what your entitled to.
As I mentioned on here that the dwp had my paper work 14wks this Friday, that's a long time to not know what they want from me. So it could well be that they are doing a paper assessment rather than a wca. I was advised from another forum that it's possible being a paper assessment as they take longer in the reply from the dwp. I hope they are doing a paper assessment as we all know that going to a wca adds more stress and exacerbate our conditions.
Keep you updated. Bye for now.


I got into SG very quickly with paper assessment last time (this was in 2013). I don't think the length of time means anything. I have just got another ESA and as it's with Maximus now and numbers are dropping in SG I;m shit scared.though I do have good GP support
#123 Carl 2017-07-25 08:35
Quoting TwistedWitch :
I posted earlier in this thread. My paper assessment back in 2013 was Support Group for one year, but that was subsequently deferred and didn't pop up again until March this year, to be returned by 7th April. After an agonising 15 week wait I finally heard this morning. Support Group on a paper assessment. A phone call informed me that I have been granted this for 36 months. It took me 45 minutes and a phone call to my Daughter before I had the courage to open it and then I got hysterical with relief. Someone asked earlier if they knew what they were doing, of course they do and they don't ruddy well care.

,
Correct they don't care as its all laid out by the government, they got bide by the WCA hand book. It's great news for you as getting what your entitled to.
As I mentioned on here that the dwp had my paper work 14wks this Friday, that's a long time to not know what they want from me. So it could well be that they are doing a paper assessment rather than a wca. I was advised from another forum that it's possible being a paper assessment as they take longer in the reply from the dwp. I hope they are doing a paper assessment as we all know that going to a wca adds more stress and exacerbate our conditions.
Keep you updated. Bye for now.
#122 TwistedWitch 2017-07-24 23:41
I posted earlier in this thread. My paper assessment back in 2013 was Support Group for one year, but that was subsequently deferred and didn't pop up again until March this year, to be returned by 7th April. After an agonising 15 week wait I finally heard this morning. Support Group on a paper assessment. A phone call informed me that I have been granted this for 36 months. It took me 45 minutes and a phone call to my Daughter before I had the courage to open it and then I got hysterical with relief. Someone asked earlier if they knew what they were doing, of course they do and they don't ruddy well care.

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