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Therese Coffey, the secretary of state for work and pensions has said that PIP has “grown in a way that was not anticipated” and that it needs to be targeted “even more so to people who need that help”. She also refused to rule out merging PIP with universal credit and said that the benefits system needs to stop “encouraging people to show how they really cannot do any work at all”.

The comments made at a meeting at the Conservative Party Conference, will dismay all those who have already endured the move from incapacity benefit to ESA, based on the idea that ESA would focus on what claimants could do rather than what they could not do.

Many of those same claimants have also faced the move from DLA to PIP, based on the claim that PIP would be better targeted on those who needed support.

Coffey’s comments are particularly ironic given that PIP was promoted by the DWP as being more effective at providing help to claimant with mental health conditions.

Yet the example Coffey chose to give of where PIP is failing was the increased help for young people with mental health issues.

PIP has certainly grown in a way that was not anticipated when it was introduced.

“To give you an example, three out of four young people who claim PIP have their primary reason being mental ill health.

“That in itself is 189,000 young people who currently receive benefit focused on that. There may be other benefits they receive as well.

“So that’s one of the things where I’m very conscious one of things I’m trying to do as Secretary of State is very much the issues we face are downstream, and what are the things we need to do to get more upstream.

“And I hope that might give us the headroom then to… how is it that people can think the benefit system is fair.

“And I think by being able to target that even more so to people who really need that support, may improve that prospect of public perception.”

In relation to ESA, Coffey said that the original expectation was that only 25% of claimants would be in the support group rather than 80% and that she wanted to change the focus to “what people can do, rather than the benefit system being driven currently by what you cannot do”.

When asked if there were any plans to merge UC and PIP, Coffey refused to rule it out, saying that “everything is on the table”.

You can read the full report in the Mirror

Comments  

+2 #11 discombobulated 2021-10-16 05:12
Having established Ginny as a potential alternative to our layabout PM, might I also suggest that the Secretary Of State For Work And Pensions undergoes a course of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy designed to establish just why she hates disabled people & to attempt to modify her cruelty to them?
+1 #10 discombobulated 2021-10-15 01:16
Quoting Ginny:
So- how could a functional assessment include claimants capabilities in?
I can go on holiday frequently.
I can sometimes commit the carnal act.
I can say that which is not true (i.e. lie, thank you Dean Swift) very well indeed!
I also have a good degree in Classics. Not much else but there must be something I can do.


Hi Ginny!

May I politely inquire whether you experience recurring visual hallucinations of "sunlight uplands", irrespective of the chaos surrounding you?

Our preliminary job-match indicates that your most appropriate profession is "Cult Leader": the visions would really clinch it, lol...
+1 #9 Ginny52 2021-10-14 00:10
So- how could a functional assessment include claimants capabilities in?
I can go on holiday frequently.
I can sometimes commit the carnal act.
I can say that which is not true (i.e. lie, thank you Dean Swift) very well indeed!
I also have a good degree in Classics. Not much else but there must be something I can do.
+1 #8 Julie 2021-10-13 18:31
I am utterly disgusted with Terese Coffey’s comments and very concerned that someone with such little compassion for disabled people was given such an influential position in Government. This article has left me really anxious about what will happen when my award is up for renewal in 2023. I currently get enhanced rate daily living awards and nothing for mobility despite being unable to make unfamiliar journeys on my own. It’s already hard enough to get points for mental health conditions (which is the reason I’m entitled to PIP). At both my last assessments I stated I was frequently unable to eat, they didn’t get it at all despite evidence from my carer and GP. Due to my mental health condition about the controlling voices in my head which forbid me to eat. Because I can physically lift a fork to my mouth and chew they awarded me points for needing prompting. I tried to explain that no amount of prompting will get me to eat when the voices tell me I don’t deserve to eat. If I do eat something when I’m in this state they compelled me to burn myself (I have hundreds of ugly scars all over my body because of this). In fact, if I was physically disabled I would still be able to eat if someone fed me. The assessor kept saying well you don’t see a dietitian - it just shows the total lack of understanding, my GP rightly wouldn’t refer me as it would make no difference. When I read the report I got so angry and frustrated- I felt totally invalidated (reinforcing the repeated message of my childhood abuser that no one would believe me). I didn’t appeal though as I didn’t want to risk (I scored just enough to get enhanced rate) not qualifying. Mental health problems are increasing throughout the population especially in young people, especially following The pandemic. The government has acknowledged that there will be a mental health crisis coming. Mental health conditions are life threatening- bottom line - people tragically take their own lives…
+1 #7 dawsden 2021-10-13 15:24
I have recently had a esa performance review. I was told that they have been taking £22 per week from me for 10 years. They have me down as having more income and savings than I have. I've been fighting for weeks now for them to correct it. My mental health has been okish but now I'm struggling and find I'm becoming overwhelmed with everything. IMy mental health is slipping and now to have this latest news from T coffey it's just more pressure. Why is it always the disabled that get kkicked!
+2 #6 SAndrew 2021-10-13 14:10
The ministers quote “To give you an example, three out of four young people who claim PIP have their primary reason being mental ill health.
“That in itself is 189,000 young people who currently receive benefit focused on that. There may be other benefits they receive as well.” if anything this highlights that we have a mental health crisis in this country. Instead of cutting services maybe they should focus on supporting people and not cutting resources then there wouldn’t be as many people suffering and having no option other than to try and claim benefits.
I’m sick of the government demonising disabled people when the cuts to important services are going to lead to nothing but people’s Heath getting worse and the need to claim benefits. I wonder how this minister would fair if she had to use the benefit system and how her callous attitude might change if the shoe were on the other foot.
+1 #5 george13 2021-10-13 13:41
I believe she is doing this as the support group get more money , the system is rotten to the core .
+2 #4 QuietM 2021-10-13 12:13
I feel so anxious about all the things Therese Coffey, the secretary of state for work and pensions, has been saying. This will inflict upon disabled claimants, more stress. She has been supported by Jacob- Rees-Mogg. If she really cared about disabled and sick people, she would listen to us, or our GP’s and specialists, like psychiatrists.

If somebody feels they want help to work they can ask. Forcing it on people is not listening and is callous and dangerous. We know of people pushed over the edge and committed suicide.

I know it makes me feel suicidal, which has been part one part of my mental health journey. I nearly died once, but survived after resuscitation. This happened shortly after my very stressful reassessment. The Samaritans have been helpful over time (Tell: 116 123 for free, 24 hours).

Thank you ‘Benefits and Work’ for fighting for us and giving very helpful information and training professional helpers.

My condition fluctuates and no matter what ‘I could do’ changes too.
+2 #3 tinytim 2021-10-13 11:31
If they moved PIP into UC what happens to those who have a small company pension who are not entitled to UC.
+2 #2 MrFibro 2021-10-12 12:46
I agree with >>> ThisGovernmentsGoneToFar.

Another good fair way to claw back billions of pounds, is to target the rich and elite tax evaders in the UK. And make them pay the right taxes etc.

That's just one way to claw back billions, there's many other ways too, of which I will not go into.

It never ceases to amaze me how the goverment / dwp target the benefits system to right political wrongs.

I can only imagine now the pandemic is sort of slowing down, that the goverment / dwp will once again turn joe public against us to justify themselves at the expense of the sick/ill disabled people.

Milllions of people during this pandemic, have had a taste of UC and know how life on benefits is hard to survive on.

So they should now have some empathy for the disabled who will never get any better but their health will worsen.

But no ones listening and no cares right ?

I haven't heard a peep from the new appointed disabled minister post the cabinet reshuffle, You'd think the minister for disabled would have our backs right !

Austerity never went away, it's now blown right out of proportion, causing more havoc and misery to British people.

Good luck to all.
+5 #1 ThisGovernmentsGoneToFar 2021-10-11 18:57
Therese Coffey looking into is weather to join PIP ESA, UC as one?

As I've pointed out before. This cannot be done. Reasons are PIP is for claimants in and out of work?

This seems a very contradictory? In part their saying using XYZ.
This is a response from the Government.

1. The Department for Work and Pensions uses functional assessments
to help determine entitlement for a number of benefits, including Personal Independence Payments (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and, for those claiming because they have a disability or health condition that impacts on their capability for work, Universal Credit (UC

2. We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP.
Unlike in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a
disability or long-term health condition. PIP is paid regardless of income
or savings. Once someone has been awarded PIP, which can be paid at one of eight rates, that award will be reviewed.

DWPs own words clearly states?

We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP. Unlike
in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a
disability or long-term health condition.

Believe me when I say this this government just love persecuting the
poor and disabled in anyway they can.

The SG is because these claimants can only do very limited things, this is a target the the DWP are just going to demonise claimants in that group pure and simple to just claw money back to pay for this pandemic, going by this She Therese Coffey is out of her way to crucify the disabled yet again like those before her.

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