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4 years 11 months ago #231797 by magdelena
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Am I right in thinking that it is possible to score points on more than one descriptor for this question?
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4 years 11 months ago #231798 by BIS
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Hi Magdelena
Are you talking about Q13 for PIP - Going Out?
If so - the following should help
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
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Are you talking about Q13 for PIP - Going Out?
If so - the following should help
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
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4 years 11 months ago #231802 by magdelena
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Thanks BIS.
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4 years 11 months ago #231804 by magdelena
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Yes, I did mean PIP.
To clarify, I meant is it possible be awarded points on more than one descriptor for q13? As per this paragraph in the Members Guide:
”Help whilst on a journey
The tribunal decided that if a claimant suffers ‘overwhelming psychological distress’ then they may be able to score points for d) or for f) as well as b) or e). They are not limited to only being able to score points for b) or e), as the DWP had argued.”
To clarify, I meant is it possible be awarded points on more than one descriptor for q13? As per this paragraph in the Members Guide:
”Help whilst on a journey
The tribunal decided that if a claimant suffers ‘overwhelming psychological distress’ then they may be able to score points for d) or for f) as well as b) or e). They are not limited to only being able to score points for b) or e), as the DWP had argued.”
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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #231821 by BIS
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Hi Magdelena
Yes, it is possible, always remembering the judgment is 'may be able to' - so it is not a given.
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Yes, it is possible, always remembering the judgment is 'may be able to' - so it is not a given.
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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #231827 by Gordon
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magdelena
Just to clarify, whilst you can score for more than one Descriptors in any of the PIP activities but it is only the highest scoring Descriptor that will be used for an award. Also and specifically for the Going Out activity, Descriptors (e) and (f) are considered to be mutually exclusive of each other so you can only score for one, and your arguments for that will undermine those for the other.
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Just to clarify, whilst you can score for more than one Descriptors in any of the PIP activities but it is only the highest scoring Descriptor that will be used for an award. Also and specifically for the Going Out activity, Descriptors (e) and (f) are considered to be mutually exclusive of each other so you can only score for one, and your arguments for that will undermine those for the other.
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