LIBRA1's PIP Queries Topic !!!

Hello,

All my worries about having a f2f assessment are shelved. Just had a letter to tell me the DWP have all the information and reports needed about my condition and how this affects me and my claim for PIP. They apologise for the delay in making a decision on my claim and will contact me as soon as they have done so.

That is either good news or bad news.

I rang ATOS (who did my report) to ask them for a copy of it, so I can be forewarned. They put me back through to the DWP who told me they would ask the case manager to send me a copy of the report but there has been no decision yet.

Is this normal? For the DWP rather than ATOS to send me the report done by ATOS before making a decision?

I have a diagnosed mental health condition (bipolar on heavy psychoactive medication), no Psychiatrist or CMHT, and sent through a completed PIP2, historic medical letters and a current letter from my GP and family who care for me.

I hear that people who are assessed on paper without a f2f with mental illness are regularly turned down for PIP. Is that right?

Relieved at not having to have an assessment but worried it's a straight rejection. Don't have any fight to MR the decision if it's bad news. I have nothing more to add medically in terms of evidence. It would be pointless unless the report is manifestly ridiculous.

Thanks Gordon. I guess the next thing I will get in the post is the report from the DWP or the decision letter.

From reading the forum, I realise that success with a PIP claim without a f2f assessment is rare. However, I also know from other forums which deal with mental health mainly that being 'waived through' without a f2f on paper does happen a lot - but that is usually with claimants who are under mental health team care currently or with more recent hospitalisations. I am neither.

I want to be hopeful but...

libra1 wrote: Hello,

All my worries about having a f2f assessment are shelved. Just had a letter to tell me the DWP have all the information and reports needed about my condition and how this affects me and my claim for PIP. They apologise for the delay in making a decision on my claim and will contact me as soon as they have done so.

That is either good news or bad news.

I rang ATOS (who did my report) to ask them for a copy of it, so I can be forewarned. They put me back through to the DWP who told me they would ask the case manager to send me a copy of the report but there has been no decision yet.

Is this normal? For the DWP rather than ATOS to send me the report done by ATOS before making a decision?

I have a diagnosed mental health condition (bipolar on heavy psychoactive medication), no Psychiatrist or CMHT, and sent through a completed PIP2, historic medical letters and a current letter from my GP and family who care for me.

I hear that people who are assessed on paper without a f2f with mental illness are regularly turned down for PIP. Is that right?

Relieved at not having to have an assessment but worried it's a straight rejection. Don't have any fight to MR the decision if it's bad news. I have nothing more to add medically in terms of evidence. It would be pointless unless the report is manifestly ridiculous.

Hi l1,

I see ; Here that you have made several different topics on your PIP related queries, please try and keep all your PIP queries to this one topic.

I will merged them all together under the Topic Title "LIBRA1's PIP Queries Topic" when the forum is closed.

If it has been confirmed to you that you have received a paper based assessment and your PIP file has been returned to The DWP PIP DM to make the final decision, as you rightly state that does not give any indication of whet PIP Award will be made.

All "Benefit" Medical Reports and Documents are stored by The DWP !!

ATOS, Maximus nor Capita keep them nor copies of them, so it would be normal to have to request copy of any such "Documents" from DWP rather than The AP !!

SAR Form Download

From this page :

DWP Data Protection Policy

You can generally obtain a copy of The PIP PA4 medical Report by ringing the PIP Helpline.

Telephone: 0345 850 3322
Textphone: 0345 601 6677
Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm

The PIP Assessment Process has been slowing down since the New Year !

Some members have managed to obtain a copy before receiving the decision and some have had to wait until after the decision.

I certainly wouldn't assume that you will be turned down due to having a paper based assessment.

All that it indicates is that The AP considers that they have enough paper evidence to make recommendations without the need for a face to face.

Just because a claimant receives an initial adverse decision, and the same under an MR, does not mean that the claimant cannot be successful at an appeal using exactly the same evidence.

The adverse decision could be purely down to poor quality Decision Making on the part of The DWP and success rates with The Appeals Tribunal Service are currently running at 60% !

Please do keep us updated by replying to this topic.

You should Bookmark/Favourite this page in your Internet Browser now. That way you can return to this topic easily to pose any further queries that you may have by replying to the topic.

Thanks in anticipation of your future co-operation in keeping all your PIP related queries to this topic !

bro58

libra1 wrote: Thanks Gordon. I guess the next thing I will get in the post is the report from the DWP or the decision letter.

From reading the forum, I realise that success with a PIP claim without a f2f assessment is rare. However, I also know from other forums which deal with mental health mainly that being 'waived through' without a f2f on paper does happen a lot - but that is usually with claimants who are under mental health team care currently or with more recent hospitalisations. I am neither.

I want to be hopeful but...

Hi l1,

As the PIP Assessment System "jams up" I think that we may see more and more paper based assessments as we did with ESA !!

bro58

Thanks bro58

I didn't realise that if I post I was to post only on one thread under my name at all. All my posts have been about PIP and nothing else, although with various questions about the PIP process as I have been going through each stage.

But thanks for the heads up. I will only endeavour to stick to this thread in future and bookmark the page... although the subject heading might not be accurate. It will all be under my name!



Libra