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ESA50: "it varies" or "can't do it"?
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8 years 11 months ago #158155 by TiredMK
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Hi everyone. I have had CFS for a decade. Previously I won a tribunal to be put in the support group and now I have to fill in another ESA50. I'm not sure what to write in the form regarding activities where it gives me the options Yes, No and It Varies. For instance, I can only walk about 20-40 meters on a good day. Even then I would have to stop walking, rest and recuperate before I could attempt it again. I might be able to manage it once or twice but not repeatedly. On a bad day I might not even be able to walk to the bathroom
Should I put "It varies" for that or should I say No because I can't do it repeatedly? Same question goes for steps. I could manage a few on a good day but not repeatedly. But if I put No and then I'm observed walking 20 meters in, and then 20 meters out again, or I'm observed walking up a few steps at the medical it looks like I've blatantly lied. I want to be truthful but I don't want to mess it up. Any advice on what I should do here?
Should I put "It varies" for that or should I say No because I can't do it repeatedly? Same question goes for steps. I could manage a few on a good day but not repeatedly. But if I put No and then I'm observed walking 20 meters in, and then 20 meters out again, or I'm observed walking up a few steps at the medical it looks like I've blatantly lied. I want to be truthful but I don't want to mess it up. Any advice on what I should do here?
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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #158158 by slugsta
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Replied by slugsta on topic ESA50: "it varies" or "can't do it"?
Hi TiredMK and Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is
Welcome to Benefits and Work
We always advise members that you should not be constrained by the tickboxes. If you think none of them reflect your situation you should leave them blank and explain fully in the text box ( or on an added sheet).
Certainly, if you tick the 'yes' box you are saying that you never have a problem with the activity.
If you have a variable condition you need to explain how you are on your worst day, your best day and your usual day (if you have any) and how often these would happen.
This is explained in more detail in the PIP guide
PIP help for claimants
You might wish to bookmark/favourite this on your web browser now so that you can find it easily in future. That will allow you to return with further questions/comments without having to start a new copy each time. It helps us enormously when everything relating to the same claim is kept in one place - and I hope you will find it useful too
Welcome to Benefits and Work
We always advise members that you should not be constrained by the tickboxes. If you think none of them reflect your situation you should leave them blank and explain fully in the text box ( or on an added sheet).
Certainly, if you tick the 'yes' box you are saying that you never have a problem with the activity.
If you have a variable condition you need to explain how you are on your worst day, your best day and your usual day (if you have any) and how often these would happen.
This is explained in more detail in the PIP guide
PIP help for claimants
You might wish to bookmark/favourite this on your web browser now so that you can find it easily in future. That will allow you to return with further questions/comments without having to start a new copy each time. It helps us enormously when everything relating to the same claim is kept in one place - and I hope you will find it useful too

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8 years 11 months ago #158193 by TiredMK
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Thanks for your answer. Should I mention I have previously won a tribunal in the "Other information" section? I could send a copy of the relevant documents if it would help.
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8 years 11 months ago #158208 by Gordon
Yes you can do this, but for it to have value you really need to tie it to the ESA Descriptors that you expect to score points for.
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TiredMK wrote: Thanks for your answer. Should I mention I have previously won a tribunal in the "Other information" section? I could send a copy of the relevant documents if it would help.
Yes you can do this, but for it to have value you really need to tie it to the ESA Descriptors that you expect to score points for.
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