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5 years 2 months ago #244341 by nj1990
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I was reading the PIP descriptors for preparing and cooking a simple meal. I would like to know what activities can be classified as e) "needing assistance to prepare and cook a simple meal"? I understand that "needing supervision to prepare and cook a simple meal" refers to having someone to supervise you to ensure that you are not endangering yourself. However, there is little information on what needing assistance to prepare or cook a simple meal means. How is it different to needing an aid or an appliance as it is very easy for the two to overlap. Anything that is considered to require assistance such as chopping food can be countered by using an aid or an appliance. I would be grateful if you can clarify this.
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Thank you.
I was reading the PIP descriptors for preparing and cooking a simple meal. I would like to know what activities can be classified as e) "needing assistance to prepare and cook a simple meal"? I understand that "needing supervision to prepare and cook a simple meal" refers to having someone to supervise you to ensure that you are not endangering yourself. However, there is little information on what needing assistance to prepare or cook a simple meal means. How is it different to needing an aid or an appliance as it is very easy for the two to overlap. Anything that is considered to require assistance such as chopping food can be countered by using an aid or an appliance. I would be grateful if you can clarify this.
Best,
Thank you.
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5 years 2 months ago #244342 by Gary
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Replied by Gary on topic Descriptor e of cooking and preparing food— PIP
Hi nj1990
So if you can't cut up vegetables, you say why not.
1, Because of frequent bouts of dizziness you are only able to sit down for a few minutes (try and say what few is). and then you need to go and lay down.
2. Handling knives is impossible because of the lack of grip and safety issues and the real danger of hurting yourself, which is why you dont do any cooking. (Remind them again here that when you are alone you have cold food to eat).
3. Because of the lack of grip you are unable to move pans, as you would drop them. You don't have the balance of strength.
4. Nor could you take a ready meal and put in in the microwave (you need to say why you can't do this - balance, grip, dizziness, lifting something out - the danger of burning and hurting yourself, being unable to stand).
5. You also need to say why you cannot sit on a perching stool (because of the dizziness).
There is a list of aids in the PIP Claim guide, you don't have to address each one but for everything that you are saying that you cannot do you need to see whether an aid would help and then explain why it wouldn't.
The term "reliable" is a collective noun for four sets of criteria;
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
so where you say "I cannot prepare a simple meal reliably" you need to change this to one of the terms above.
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So if you can't cut up vegetables, you say why not.
1, Because of frequent bouts of dizziness you are only able to sit down for a few minutes (try and say what few is). and then you need to go and lay down.
2. Handling knives is impossible because of the lack of grip and safety issues and the real danger of hurting yourself, which is why you dont do any cooking. (Remind them again here that when you are alone you have cold food to eat).
3. Because of the lack of grip you are unable to move pans, as you would drop them. You don't have the balance of strength.
4. Nor could you take a ready meal and put in in the microwave (you need to say why you can't do this - balance, grip, dizziness, lifting something out - the danger of burning and hurting yourself, being unable to stand).
5. You also need to say why you cannot sit on a perching stool (because of the dizziness).
There is a list of aids in the PIP Claim guide, you don't have to address each one but for everything that you are saying that you cannot do you need to see whether an aid would help and then explain why it wouldn't.
The term "reliable" is a collective noun for four sets of criteria;
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
so where you say "I cannot prepare a simple meal reliably" you need to change this to one of the terms above.
Gary
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5 years 2 months ago #244352 by nj1990
Replied by nj1990 on topic Descriptor e of cooking and preparing food— PIP
Hi Gary,
Thank you for this thorough answer. For number 4. does a “ready meal” mean one that has been prepared at home or a store-bought ready meal (out of the freezer)?
Thank you
Thank you for this thorough answer. For number 4. does a “ready meal” mean one that has been prepared at home or a store-bought ready meal (out of the freezer)?
Thank you
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5 years 2 months ago #244355 by BIS
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Replied by BIS on topic Descriptor e of cooking and preparing food— PIP
Hi nj1990
The definition of a ready meal in this case, is a store brought one (which could be frozen or not)
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The definition of a ready meal in this case, is a store brought one (which could be frozen or not)
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5 years 2 months ago #244362 by ukLee
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isn't this just awful that it's come down to what kind of ready meal it is? Shameful. All the best with your claim
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5 years 2 months ago #244398 by alisp
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Replied by alisp on topic Descriptor e of cooking and preparing food— PIP
But surely this category specifically excludes ready meals from "cooking and preparing food", based on the DWP's own descriptors, which talk about preparing and cooking a simple meal for one from scratch?
There's a big gap between "needing assistance to" and "being unable to", and no descriptor to cover the area in between, more's the pity.
There's a big gap between "needing assistance to" and "being unable to", and no descriptor to cover the area in between, more's the pity.
Carer for a long-term ME/CFS sufferer
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