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1 week 18 hours ago #307202 by Happypants
Need info regarding ?Regulation 19? to quote in online UC journal. was created by Happypants
I am due to submit my UC application on Friday. I am making notes of a few things I want to put in my journal, when I have access to it (looks like you don't have access until the entire form is completed). One of the things I want to preempt is their possible instruction that I have to submit fit notes, or that they tell me I need to take part in work related activity. I am in the Support Group of ESA and receive high rate PIP for both components.
I have seen a certain regulation mentioned on here ('regulation 19' rings a bell!) that can be quoted in the journal to let them know to put me in the equivalent group under UC. Please can someone clarify what that regulation/rule is?
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I have seen a certain regulation mentioned on here ('regulation 19' rings a bell!) that can be quoted in the journal to let them know to put me in the equivalent group under UC. Please can someone clarify what that regulation/rule is?
Thank you.
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1 day 16 hours ago #307418 by latetrain
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Hi Happypants
We heard from a lot of members when they first started the transitional process that members were being told that they needed to provide a "fit note", this does not seem to be happening now.
I would only mention reg 19 on your journal if your work coach asks for a "fit note". You may find the following information useful.
If you either are getting employment and support allowance (ESA) and are in the support group or were getting ESA and were in the support group immediately before you claimed UC, the limited capability for work-related activity (LCWRA) element should be included in your UC maximum amount from the start of your UC award, or from the start of the UC assessment period in which your entitlement to the support component began, if that is later. You do not need another work capability assessment to qualify (though the DWP may send you for reassessment). The three-month waiting period for the LCWRA element does not apply in this situation.
If you are getting income-related ESA when you claim UC, this will stop. If you are getting old-style contributory ESA when you claim UC, this will continue as new-style ESA. New-style ESA can be paid at the same time as UC; it is treated as unearned income and is deducted from your UC maximum amount.
Relevant legislation if you were getting old-style employment and support allowance (ESA)
Reg 19(1), (4)(b) and (5)(b) of the Universal Credit (Transitional Provisions) Regulations 2014, which provides that a UC claimant who was entitled to ESA immediately before claiming UC and who had been, in respect of ESA, determined to have LCWRA or is treated as having LCWRA (ie, had been placed in the ESA support group), must be treated as having LCWRA from the outset of their UC award and the LCWRA element must be included in their UC from the outset.
Relevant legislation if you are getting new-style ESA
Regulation 28(5)(b)(i) Universal Credit Regulations 2013, provides that the normal three-month waiting period for the LCWRA element does not apply if you are entitled to new-style ESA which includes a support component.
What to do if these rules aren't followed:
If you are in this situation and the LCWRA element has not been included from the correct date, request a mandatory reconsideration (MR) and if this is unsuccessful, appeal.
Gary
We heard from a lot of members when they first started the transitional process that members were being told that they needed to provide a "fit note", this does not seem to be happening now.
I would only mention reg 19 on your journal if your work coach asks for a "fit note". You may find the following information useful.
If you either are getting employment and support allowance (ESA) and are in the support group or were getting ESA and were in the support group immediately before you claimed UC, the limited capability for work-related activity (LCWRA) element should be included in your UC maximum amount from the start of your UC award, or from the start of the UC assessment period in which your entitlement to the support component began, if that is later. You do not need another work capability assessment to qualify (though the DWP may send you for reassessment). The three-month waiting period for the LCWRA element does not apply in this situation.
If you are getting income-related ESA when you claim UC, this will stop. If you are getting old-style contributory ESA when you claim UC, this will continue as new-style ESA. New-style ESA can be paid at the same time as UC; it is treated as unearned income and is deducted from your UC maximum amount.
Relevant legislation if you were getting old-style employment and support allowance (ESA)
Reg 19(1), (4)(b) and (5)(b) of the Universal Credit (Transitional Provisions) Regulations 2014, which provides that a UC claimant who was entitled to ESA immediately before claiming UC and who had been, in respect of ESA, determined to have LCWRA or is treated as having LCWRA (ie, had been placed in the ESA support group), must be treated as having LCWRA from the outset of their UC award and the LCWRA element must be included in their UC from the outset.
Relevant legislation if you are getting new-style ESA
Regulation 28(5)(b)(i) Universal Credit Regulations 2013, provides that the normal three-month waiting period for the LCWRA element does not apply if you are entitled to new-style ESA which includes a support component.
What to do if these rules aren't followed:
If you are in this situation and the LCWRA element has not been included from the correct date, request a mandatory reconsideration (MR) and if this is unsuccessful, appeal.
Gary
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1 day 16 hours ago #307419 by Happypants
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Thank you for your reply - this is useful information.
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1 day 15 hours ago #307421 by latetrain
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Your welcome
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