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2 days 11 hours ago - 2 days 10 hours ago #307833 by Paul
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Hi I am in the process of claiming/migrating from the support group IR-ESA to UC I received a journal entry today. I'm not fully sure if it is just part of the process or if I am meant to take action. Could someone give their view on this? I am a little confused. Regards Paul STATEMENT RECEIVED --- Some other benefits can affect how much Universal Credit you get. You and your partner can continue to claim these benefits, but we will adjust your Universal Credit payment. Your statement shows you how we do this. Our records show that XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX is getting: Employment and Support Allowance If you think this is wrong If XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX no longer gets this benefit they should contact the office they claimed it from. Tell them XXXXXX XXXXXXX is now getting Universal Credit and to update their records.
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2 days 10 hours ago #307842 by Angel
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Replied by Angel on topic IR-ESA to UC, Please Advise, Journal Entry, (it may help others too)
Hi Paul,
It sounds like you may have had a mixed award of ESA, which was made up partly of contribution-based ESA and a top up of income-related ESA. Many people are finding this out at the point of migration, having previously been led to believe that they are solely receiving IR-ESA. You could reply in your journal to query if it contribution-based ESA they are referring to. Or you could ring ESA but it can be hard to get through.
There is some info about this issue in the ESA to UC migration guide www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=688287e638103 - the Hassan example on page 32 shows how the migration of mixed ESA claimants happens in practice and there is a bit more on page 52 as well.
I also wrote something about this for a recent newsletter here www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=688287e638103 because of the number of cases of mysteriously appearing contribution-based ESA.
If you have a scroll through the forums, you will also find quite a few other people in this boat so that might help you get an idea of how the process has worked for them.
Best wishes
It sounds like you may have had a mixed award of ESA, which was made up partly of contribution-based ESA and a top up of income-related ESA. Many people are finding this out at the point of migration, having previously been led to believe that they are solely receiving IR-ESA. You could reply in your journal to query if it contribution-based ESA they are referring to. Or you could ring ESA but it can be hard to get through.
There is some info about this issue in the ESA to UC migration guide www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=688287e638103 - the Hassan example on page 32 shows how the migration of mixed ESA claimants happens in practice and there is a bit more on page 52 as well.
I also wrote something about this for a recent newsletter here www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=688287e638103 because of the number of cases of mysteriously appearing contribution-based ESA.
If you have a scroll through the forums, you will also find quite a few other people in this boat so that might help you get an idea of how the process has worked for them.
Best wishes
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1 day 18 hours ago #307860 by Paul
Replied by Paul on topic IR-ESA to UC, Please Advise, Journal Entry, (it may help others too)
Hi Angel,
Firstly, thanks for blanking out my name I missed at the end of my message
Can I ask a couple more questions? Hope that's ok.
1) As far as Contribution Based goes, I was under the impression that anyone on that would be moved to UC + New Style ESA.
I read somewhere that it was related to contributions over the last 3 years.
I have been in Income-Related ESA only and expect to be moved over to UC alone; this was my impression.
Please advise, if possible?
Brief History Me,
Spinal Injury back in 1998 -
I claimed Income Support and then claimed Incapacity Benefit alongside it, or I claimed both together; I'm not sure which. A long time has passed.
From Sept 2012 - ESA claimed / ESA Income-Related / Support Group
For me, I don't understand why they think I am still claiming ESA. Is it not auto-cancelled out once you make a UC Claim?
I understand you are saying if it were receiving contribution-based, then this would affect the award and that might be why they are using it in the calculation, but by how many years I have been receiving ESA, not once mentioned, etc, I just can't see it...?
Lastly, if this is the case, what does that mean, implications..
Will I receive an award of ESA New Style and UC combined?
Will I receive the same income?
Does receiving Contribution-Based affect other things? - Dentist, prescriptions, etc, sorry, thinking ahead.
Moving Forward
I am going to ring ESA and ask about Income Related, Contribution, etc, go from there, maybe then add to the journal.
Kindest Regards
Paul
Firstly, thanks for blanking out my name I missed at the end of my message
Can I ask a couple more questions? Hope that's ok.
1) As far as Contribution Based goes, I was under the impression that anyone on that would be moved to UC + New Style ESA.
I read somewhere that it was related to contributions over the last 3 years.
I have been in Income-Related ESA only and expect to be moved over to UC alone; this was my impression.
Please advise, if possible?
Brief History Me,
Spinal Injury back in 1998 -
I claimed Income Support and then claimed Incapacity Benefit alongside it, or I claimed both together; I'm not sure which. A long time has passed.
From Sept 2012 - ESA claimed / ESA Income-Related / Support Group
For me, I don't understand why they think I am still claiming ESA. Is it not auto-cancelled out once you make a UC Claim?
I understand you are saying if it were receiving contribution-based, then this would affect the award and that might be why they are using it in the calculation, but by how many years I have been receiving ESA, not once mentioned, etc, I just can't see it...?
Lastly, if this is the case, what does that mean, implications..
Will I receive an award of ESA New Style and UC combined?
Will I receive the same income?
Does receiving Contribution-Based affect other things? - Dentist, prescriptions, etc, sorry, thinking ahead.
Moving Forward
I am going to ring ESA and ask about Income Related, Contribution, etc, go from there, maybe then add to the journal.
Kindest Regards
Paul
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1 day 8 hours ago #307885 by latetrain
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Replied by latetrain on topic IR-ESA to UC, Please Advise, Journal Entry, (it may help others too)
Hi Paul
We cannot answer your queries as we do not have all the facts.
We do quite often come across claimants who had no idea that they were in receipt of both IR-ESA and CB-ESA, the benefit increase letter DWP send out each year is not very clear as to which type of ESA you are receiving, if you received Disability Premiums then that would be IR-ESA but your underlying benefit may be CB-ESA with IR-ESA top up.
If you are put in NS-ESA then yes you will receive both NS-ESA and UC. Remember NS-ESA is paid fortnightly whereas UC is paid monthly.
NS-ESA will be deducted from your UC applicable amount.
Gary
We cannot answer your queries as we do not have all the facts.
We do quite often come across claimants who had no idea that they were in receipt of both IR-ESA and CB-ESA, the benefit increase letter DWP send out each year is not very clear as to which type of ESA you are receiving, if you received Disability Premiums then that would be IR-ESA but your underlying benefit may be CB-ESA with IR-ESA top up.
If you are put in NS-ESA then yes you will receive both NS-ESA and UC. Remember NS-ESA is paid fortnightly whereas UC is paid monthly.
NS-ESA will be deducted from your UC applicable amount.
Gary
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