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7 hours 18 minutes ago #313040 by Robbo
Universal Credit system error when declaring a change to Money, Savings and Investments.

I would like to share my recent experience of how Universal Credit (UC) assessed our total Money, Savings and Investments on a joint UC claim after receiving a £5000 one off lump sum payment, at the same time as other benefits being paid during the same assesment period.

This information is not in anyway, shape or form supposed to discourage people to not declare their total Money, Savings and Investments, but to raise awareness about how the UC 'system' dealt with our information once manually entered by the claimant via the UC journal.

As I understand it (and at the time of my specific issue during December 2025), a one off lump sum payment from a pension pot is classed as CAPITAL.

Wages or benefit payments are classed as INCOME.

CAPITAL immediately gets classed as SAVINGS.

INCOME is disregarded for the assesment period in which it is paid but any remainder at the end of the following assesment period then becomes SAVINGS.

When a claimant keeps to their claim commitment by using the UC journal to make a voluntary declaration to their Money, Savings and Investments, they will be asked to input current balances from ALL bank and building society accounts held, where that person is named individually or jointly on whatever type of bank account it is.

There will also be questions regarding any other investments and to input the figure for those that are applicable.

Once completed, the UC 'system' will TOTAL all of these figures together and that TOTAL will become the amount that the UC 'system' considers as SAVINGS.

In my recent experience, there was no disregard applied for UC benefit payments, which included the housing element, within the same assesment period (which become SAVINGS if unspent at the end of the following assesment period) by the UC 'system'.

This happened more than once, in the same assesment period, because I completed another declaration after transferring some of the lump sum money into my savings account, rather than the current account it had been paid into. I was incorrect in thinking that the UC 'system' would differentiate between a current and savings account.

Due to the UC 'system' TOTAL SAVINGS amount being more than £6000, we were deducted £4.35 per £250 over the £6000 when my UC payment for December 2025 assessment period was made. This potential deduction was known about before receiving the lump sum.

Unlversal Credit also notified my local authority of the new TOTAL SAVINGS amount according to the UC 'system'. The local authority then terminated Council Tax Support as we apparently had over £6000 in SAVINGS, despite UC not taking off the amounts they should have as disregarded INCOME.

If the UC 'system' had disregarded any INCOME payments during the December 2025 assesment period, our TOTAL SAVINGS would have been well below £6000.

We had recently also had a random Universal Credit Review of our claim completed during November 2025. There were zero SAVINGS at this point. All bank accounts and any savings held by my partner and myself had already been detailed as part of the UC review.

It would probably have been fraudulent if we had only declared balances for our bank savings account during December or manually adjusted the figures, by deducting benefits paid in the assesment period.

After looking at some comments on various forums around this matter, it would seem that we are not the only people to have experienced this error with how the UC 'system' automatically calculates savings.

If our actual TOTAL SAVINGS, calculated by the UC 'system' for the period above were correct, then as claimants, we would never be able to have the savings threshold of up to £6000, without £4.35 per £250 per month deductions, whilst getting any other INCOME from wages or benefit payments.

The most we would be able to have as SAVINGS would be an accrued amount up to the value of whatever INCOME is paid during an assesment period. For example, to stay under the £6000 threshold would mean:

Example 1. Wages (INCOME) of £1000 per month, would limit to £4999 SAVINGS.

Example 2. UC payment of £1500, which includes £500 housing element (INCOME), would limit to £4499 SAVINGS.

Example 3. UC payment of £2500, which includes £500 housing element and £1000 child element (INCOME), would limit to £3499 SAVINGS.

The above three hypothetical examples have now been proven to be incorrect.

Having any SAVINGS at all is very difficult when dependant on Universal Credit. It was only due to a combination of past circumstances that this lump sum could be taken.

As mentioned towards the start, the above information is not in anyway supposed to deter people to not declare total Money, Savings and Investments, but to be aware of how the UC "system" dealt with the information once manually entered by us, the UC claimants.

To resolve this matter, we have had all of our bank accounts further individually scrutinised by a DWP decision maker to establish true savings levels for the assesment period in question. They have now come back and confirmed it was way under the £6000 threshold and issued a refund notification of the £4.35 previously deducted.

We had spent quite a chunk of the lump sum on necessary items, such as replacing mobile phones and other household appliances, that we could not afford to do previously. All receipts were kept in case we needed them to support deprivation of capital rules.

The Council Tax Support was also reinstated after we initiated a mandatory review with the local authority, although we did have to pay two weeks worth to begin with. This has also now been refunded when evidence of the updated UC savings amount was provided.

It took a lot of persistence and time to get this matter resolved and also created a lot of unnecessary stress and anxiety, not to mention appointments to the local Job Centre plus.

After such an obvious error within the programming of the UC 'system', I hope that it has now been modified to automatically deduct amounts that should be disregarded for the appropriate periods of time to prevent other claimants being penalised due to a UC 'system' design failure. Only time and user awareness will tell.

Good luck.

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5 hours 6 minutes ago #313047 by David
Hi Robbo

Thanks for sharing your story which goes to show that persistence with the DWP pays .

David

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