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Confused with my award for Mobility
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11 hours 12 minutes ago #314595 by Gash
Confused with my award for Mobility was created by Gash
Hi all, I have been awarded the following on for
Mobility.
“Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or
unaided. 12 points.”
However I am not sure I agree as I can move
more than 20 metres. I stated my PIP application I can walk 50 to 200 metres with some difficulties.
I’m not sure if the decision makers have made a mistake.
Do anyone have any advice for what I should do. For example, ring the DWP or leave the award as it is.
Your help would be greatly appreciated
Mobility.
“Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or
unaided. 12 points.”
However I am not sure I agree as I can move
more than 20 metres. I stated my PIP application I can walk 50 to 200 metres with some difficulties.
I’m not sure if the decision makers have made a mistake.
Do anyone have any advice for what I should do. For example, ring the DWP or leave the award as it is.
Your help would be greatly appreciated
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6 hours 31 minutes ago #314600 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic Confused with my award for Mobility
Hi Gash,
As with all descriptors, DWP have to consider the so-called reliability criteria. Safety, Reasonable Time, Repetition and Acceptable standard. All 4 have to be met. Therefore it is possible that the decision maker believed one or more of these applied.
So ...for example although physically you can cover up to 200m over ground, if your speed is too slow, or you are at risks of falls, fits, etc, (even if you don't fall fit etc often) can only walk that distance once a day instead of several times, or perhaps eg the effort gives you somewhat severe leg or heart pain, or you get very breathless or dizzy
Etc Etc....
If the dizziness, risk of falling, or whatever health condition it is, is present at the moment you try and walk, even though you can still move 200m, then 1-20m could be the correct score. The walking test, is effectively How far can you walk at a decent pace, without being at risk of falling, or harming yourself, or actually falling etc, whilst not causing pain, or being breathless, causing fatigue, or is otherwise not to a normal standard? And whatever distance that is, can you walk it several times a day if you needed to, in exactly the same way? (No pain, no risk of falls, no actual falls, but at reasonable pace etc.)
It might be that the DWP genuinely thinks one or more of the criteria apply and their amount of distance reflects what you can do within the criteria.
If you scored points under Mobility 1, and this is already at 12 points, or alternatively if you had got just 4 points under Mobility 2 - 50-200m - then your award if enhanced rate is still correct.
If of course you feel that DWP have over scored, and you either didn't score points under Mobility 1, or if taken together with only 4 points for Mobility 2 there is no award, or only standard rate, then the overscoring will amount to an overpayment. If this scenario applies then you are duty bound to contact DWP. Knowingly receiving an overpayment could lead to possible prosecution, in addition to having to repay the amount.
Alternatively, you could seek clarification from DWP - if they consider your walking is worse than you thought, (even without the reliability tests) then their decision could be legally correct. In which case the payment is correct.
Have a think. DWP are not known to be overly generous, so I suspect there is some solid reason for what appears to be excess points.
I hope this helps.
LL26
As with all descriptors, DWP have to consider the so-called reliability criteria. Safety, Reasonable Time, Repetition and Acceptable standard. All 4 have to be met. Therefore it is possible that the decision maker believed one or more of these applied.
So ...for example although physically you can cover up to 200m over ground, if your speed is too slow, or you are at risks of falls, fits, etc, (even if you don't fall fit etc often) can only walk that distance once a day instead of several times, or perhaps eg the effort gives you somewhat severe leg or heart pain, or you get very breathless or dizzy
Etc Etc....
If the dizziness, risk of falling, or whatever health condition it is, is present at the moment you try and walk, even though you can still move 200m, then 1-20m could be the correct score. The walking test, is effectively How far can you walk at a decent pace, without being at risk of falling, or harming yourself, or actually falling etc, whilst not causing pain, or being breathless, causing fatigue, or is otherwise not to a normal standard? And whatever distance that is, can you walk it several times a day if you needed to, in exactly the same way? (No pain, no risk of falls, no actual falls, but at reasonable pace etc.)
It might be that the DWP genuinely thinks one or more of the criteria apply and their amount of distance reflects what you can do within the criteria.
If you scored points under Mobility 1, and this is already at 12 points, or alternatively if you had got just 4 points under Mobility 2 - 50-200m - then your award if enhanced rate is still correct.
If of course you feel that DWP have over scored, and you either didn't score points under Mobility 1, or if taken together with only 4 points for Mobility 2 there is no award, or only standard rate, then the overscoring will amount to an overpayment. If this scenario applies then you are duty bound to contact DWP. Knowingly receiving an overpayment could lead to possible prosecution, in addition to having to repay the amount.
Alternatively, you could seek clarification from DWP - if they consider your walking is worse than you thought, (even without the reliability tests) then their decision could be legally correct. In which case the payment is correct.
Have a think. DWP are not known to be overly generous, so I suspect there is some solid reason for what appears to be excess points.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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