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- Doris
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14 years 2 months ago #59000 by Doris
Does Incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors was created by Doris
Pretty much as the title suggests, does the use of incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors.
i.e If you use pads you don't qualify under the full voiding ESA descriptor .
i.e If you use pads you don't qualify under the full voiding ESA descriptor .
- originaldave
14 years 2 months ago #59010 by originaldave
Replied by originaldave on topic Re:Does Incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors
Doris wrote:
It does not IMO because its says
) At least once a week experiences (i) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder;
SO IMO as longs as its weekly pads dont come into it
or (ii) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device; sufficient to require the individual to clean themselves and change clothing.
it says as much in the esa handbook that this site has made and can be downloaded in the members section
Pretty much as the title suggests, does the use of incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors.
i.e If you use pads you don't qualify under the full voiding ESA descriptor .
It does not IMO because its says
) At least once a week experiences (i) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder;
SO IMO as longs as its weekly pads dont come into it
or (ii) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device; sufficient to require the individual to clean themselves and change clothing.
it says as much in the esa handbook that this site has made and can be downloaded in the members section

- pete17971
14 years 2 months ago #59011 by pete17971
Replied by pete17971 on topic Re:Does Incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors
Doris wrote:
Hi,
I donm't think it is quite as cut and dried as that re use of pads etc.
Without going too deep into it, for example can one actually use the pads, do the pads work, what is the frequency of and amount of incontinence etc, do clothes get soiled etc etc can all have a bearing on whether or not it can fulfill the descriptor.
Have you read the guide ''Employment & Support Allowance claims on physical health grounds: a guide to the Work Capability Assessment'' available in the members area from this page:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa
as that contains a lot of useful information on incontinence.
Pete
Pretty much as the title suggests, does the use of incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors.
i.e If you use pads you don't qualify under the full voiding ESA descriptor .
Hi,
I donm't think it is quite as cut and dried as that re use of pads etc.
Without going too deep into it, for example can one actually use the pads, do the pads work, what is the frequency of and amount of incontinence etc, do clothes get soiled etc etc can all have a bearing on whether or not it can fulfill the descriptor.
Have you read the guide ''Employment & Support Allowance claims on physical health grounds: a guide to the Work Capability Assessment'' available in the members area from this page:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa
as that contains a lot of useful information on incontinence.
Pete
- originaldave
14 years 2 months ago #59014 by originaldave
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14 years 2 months ago #59017 by cdcdi1911
Replied by cdcdi1911 on topic Re:Does Incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors
The WCA handbook is Atos's interpretation (or misinterpretation) of the law. I wouldn't rely on it as a guide.
- originaldave
14 years 2 months ago #59019 by originaldave
Replied by originaldave on topic Re:Does Incontinence aids effect the ESA descriptors
Derek4 wrote:
your right but in this case it does a half decent job of giving an idea of whats what and ties in with whats wrote in the guide that members can download IMO of course
The WCA handbook is Atos's interpretation (or misinterpretation) of the law. I wouldn't rely on it as a guide.
your right but in this case it does a half decent job of giving an idea of whats what and ties in with whats wrote in the guide that members can download IMO of course

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