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  • Binky
26 Mar 2025 08:45
Pip review was created by Binky

Pip review

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

What should I do if by August not heard about my review had a text not looked at yet has my blue badge is up then and my mobility car September will they extend my pip or just take car back its so stressful on top of bad anxiety and living with scoliosis and arthritis id be grateful if anyone has any advice thankyou
  • BIS
25 Mar 2025 15:53

Do I need to have mobility to apply for a Blue badge.

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi Rocco1504

It's obviously up to you whether you decide to go for an MR. I don't know what you originally wrote, so I can only comment on what you have said here and I could be wrong. It sounds as if you may have opened yourself up to being marked down because you have a condition that varies - and many people do that.

You say that there are times when you can't walk 50 metres. You also say that you can walk up to 100 metres before the pain or breathlessness kicks in. You know yourself but, I was surprised that with the conditions you describe, that your pain and/or breathless doesn't kick in before 50 metres and that you don't walk slower than someone who doesn't have the same condition. With the emphesema - do you not experience breathlessness almost from your first step? If what I say is a possibility and combined with the days when you can hardly walk at all, then for the majority of the time you can't walk the distance you said as per the PIP criteria. Also can you walk reliably and safely? Do have a look at the guide again to see (Page 86 onwards) if you accurately described what happens to you.

Even if you don't decide to put in for an MR - you can always put in for a change of circumstances in the future if your condition grows worse and think about how you described the issue you have.

You have to do whatever is best for you and don't think I'm pushing you into putting in an MR. I just want to be sure that you know what the issues may be.

BIS
  • rocco1504
25 Mar 2025 11:44

Do I need to have mobility to apply for a Blue badge.

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi BIS
Many thanks for your reply.
I had wondered about reconsideration, but I'm worried that they may take a different view on my whole situation and take away the living component as well.

I was very upset at the consultation on the phone, a few minutes from the end the call cut off and she had to call me back which completely shot my train of thought and I couldn't remember what I wanted to say to her about my condition, I wonder if it was orchestrated to mess with things.

I'm just not sure if I can go through the hassle of months of waiting again but I don't want to get sold short either, the problem is that it really is getting to a point that I need help with mobility issues.

Anyway thank you again, and I'll keep you posted if I do ask for a reconsideration.

Regards
Paul
  • LL26
24 Mar 2025 17:41
Replied by LL26 on topic Refused at tribunal

Refused at tribunal

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi MeLee,
The Statement of Reasons (wsor) normally takes a month to arrive. Or...the is 1 month allowed within the Trib Rules and it should arrive then. If not phone the Tribunal after say 5 weeks to chase.
The record of proceedings (normally a CD) should arrive fairly soon. If you wish, in the interim whilst waiting for the wsor, you can produce a transcript of the hearing when the cd arrives.
If I need to do this I would do it like a playscript. Eg
Tribunal Chairman (Mr Smith):
Hello, I'm the Chairman, Mr Smith....

Doctor: You said earlier that you had a fall in May. Now you are saying the fall was in June...
Me: hmmm...no I had 2 falls, I fell over the kerb in May, I think that one was May...(pause of 8 seconds) ...I don't know, I'm confused...(inaudible mumbling)

Prepare any transcript in a very matter of fact way. You can then produce an annotated copy explaining that eg you were tearful, had to sit down, were confused etc tribunal member sounded cross, which may not be apparent from reading the transcript. (The annotated version will only be necessary if you need to send this in to illustrate an error of law.)
OK...so finally the wsor arrives. Immediately make a copy and keep it safe.
You need to find an arguable material error of law. This is something whereby the decision could have achieved benefit or extra benefit if made correctly. (So if you find an error of law to achieve an extra 2 points and you only got 4 points, this isn't enough to alter the decision because you need at least 8 so won't be material.)
The wsor normally has a few paragraphs explaining the background, then the law then the descriptors set within the law. Remember that everything in the appeal papers is also evidence.
1. The tribunal has sought to rely on 'facts' not borne out by the evidence

Firstly check the ' facts found' - many errors of law involve trying to apply the law to 'non' facts. So, if the wsor says '...we found that the claimant walks to visit her mother's everyday, this is over 200m therefore no entitlement to mobility points...' If there is no mention whatsoever in the papers of walking to Mum's and this wasn't said at the hearing, this can not be a fact! And worse still Mum if your mother had died many years previously so actuallt cant occur!- this so-called evidence is clearly wrong and a Tribunal can not seek to rely on evidence that isn't true or indeed possible.
Often a Tribunal can miss a 'not' so they have noted 'claimant can do...' whereas the truth is you actually said 'I can not...' This is where the transcript is important. You can check this and the other papers. What was said, have the Tribunal relied on actual evidence?

2. The tribunal has failed to provide a proper explanation
Next, consider whether the evidence is reliable? Obviously the tribunal can decide whether the assessment report which contradicts the GP' s report is reliable and correct. However there needs to be at least some explanation, explaining why. If the tribunal explained that at the hearing you gave unconvincing and contradictory evidence which suggested that you had exaggerated your health problems to the GP, then this might be sufficient reason, although perhaps some examples should be provided. However, if there were examples that purported to show contradictions but again didn't appear anywhere in the papers or via the transcript then this would again likely to be an error of law.
3. The tribunal has failed to apply the correct legal test in respect of....

Have a careful read of the members guides and the descriptor wording. Also think about concepts such as 'majority of days' (Regulation 7 ,)and the so-called reliability criteria of Reg 4(2A)' safety/repetition across the across the whole day/reasonable time/and acceptable standard.
Did the tribunal take into account eg the effect of pain (ie not acceptable) whether you could repeat, your speed of activity and crucially whether you were safe? Did they consider the majority of days (not the majority of time ' which is wrong!?) You need to meet all 4 of the criteria and the tribunal need to show that they have consider this.
Consider all the correct legal tests for the descriptors- 'and' "or' are important - some descriptors can be achieved by not doing one of the list, others need all parts to be satisfied to gain points.
4. The tribunal has failed to make a proper inquiry of...
The tribunal has an inquisitorial function- thus if you said 'I can't walk too far. I get out of breath.' This indicates a possible problem with walking. If the tribunal made no further enquiries and then awarded 0 points thus would indicate a failure of their duty. (The Tribunal should investigate how you walk, where you go, how often, speed pain, breathlessness, falls etc.) Similarly, if the Tribunal simply 'rely' on the assessment report and ask no further questions at the hearing, this could also comprise a failure in their inquisitorial duty.
5. The tribunal failed to consider the 'overriding objective ' as set out in Rule 2 The Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Social Entitlement Chamber) Rules 2008

Rule 2 provides that there is an overriding objective of fairness - being ill tempered towards you, not letting you or your witness answer questions, closing the hearing in a short time not allowing you to be able to sum up or add something at the end etc etc might all be evidence of being unfair. Additionally, if you weren't allowed a break to alleviate distress or go to the toilet this might also indicate the hearing was not fair.

Some of these potential grounds for appeal can overlap.

Your particular concern about the hearing was a comment about pouring some water and your daughter's Blue Badge. Who knows thus might well be relevant! If these 'facts' do apply and can somehow be relevant to eg how you prepare food or walk about then an explanation needs to be made. Maybe the water pouring shows dexterity ' it maybe that if the tribunal relied on an observation and didn't ask you to comment this too could be an error of law.
(Thr tribunal relied upon an observation which was not put to claimant.)
Basically match up the evidence with the 'facts'. Is there proper enquiry and proper explanation? Was the hearing fair? Was the correct law applied?
If you can find st least one arguable material error of law then write in explaining this. Write to the tribunal with name and NI number and hearing number then heading -
'Request to set aside First tier tribunal Decision and or request for leave to appeal to the Upper Tribunal.'
Give the hearing date and venue as subheading.

I usually set out the Grounds of Appeal as a numbered bullet list and then revisit each topic giving a full explanation.
Send this on within 1 mth (you can be late if you have a good reason,) then the Regional Judge will decide. He can set the decision aside or send straight to Upper Tribunal if it is complex or maybe a common problem that needs resolution. If the Reg. J reguses you can send a separate request direct to UT.
If you are relying on the transcript to indicate things that were said and ignored or to show nothing was says, then send in a non annotated copy. Sometimes making pencil notes in a spare copy of both wsor and ir transcript can be helpful. But if you do need to appeal to UT you'll need a pristine copy to send in!!!!
I hope this helps.
LL26
  • Darthy
24 Mar 2025 17:33
PIP REVIEW was created by Darthy

PIP REVIEW

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hiya all. Well sent back my PIP review in feb of this year. Was wondering how long the process would take for the DWP to intially get back to me to put my mind at rest that (a)to touch base they had recieved my information for my review and (b) how long it would take for them to process my claim etc as my blue badge up in the summer. Well a quick surf here indicates to me that the DWP are still crap and are plced on this planet to bring me stress and misery when I have any dealings with them.

So 2 questions...

1 is it worth phoning them up an asking if they have recieved my information?

2 is it worth asking them how long it will take for a decision to be reached?

Any input would be greatly recieved. I try not to deal with the DWP since my hellacious IB to ESA case a while back whereby I scored 0 points had to go to tribunal to an overdose of my pain meds nearly died then a protracted metal recovery after my breakdown. Ironically didnt have a mental health condition until the dwp gave me one.

TY Darthy xx
  • MeLee
23 Mar 2025 16:32
Replied by MeLee on topic Refused at tribunal

Refused at tribunal

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Sorry should say blue badge
  • MeLee
22 Mar 2025 10:01
Refused at tribunal was created by MeLee

Refused at tribunal

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi, newbie here.
Long post so pls bear with me.
I applied for pip in feb 24, I have a womb condition called adenomyosis which renders me in pain the majority of the time.
Because my womb is swollen it affects my sciatic nerve which causes pain to radiate down my right leg, it’s very painful and hard to move around most of the time.
I also have crumbling discs at the top of my spine which cause neck pain pretty much daily.
All of this means my MH has plummeted, I struggle to shower most days and very rarely cook for myself.
I don’t sleep very well as I’m always in pain.
I manage to still hold down a full time job because I j have bills to pay but it’s difficult on lack of sleep and pain.
I was awarded zero points on both components so put in for a mandatory reconsideration but the decision didn’t change.
I had my tribunal last week and I was an emotional wreck, I find it hard to talk about how I feel because spoken out loud makes me realise how bad things are.
My claim was rejected although I got 2 points for preparing food and 2 points for waging & bathing.
I’m de devastated and feel I let myself down because I struggled to stop crying and don’t think I represented myself at all well.
I don’t want to give up but don’t know what to do next.
I have applied for a statement of reasons and a recording of proceedings but had no response yet.
At the tribunal a comment was made about how I managed to carry my own bag in and pour myself a cup of water but they also asked me if I have a blue badge for my daughter (my daughter is disabled) I wish I had questioned that at the time because I don’t see the relevance.
I wasn’t happy with my initial telephone assessment because lots of what I had said was missed out in the paperwork, that was overlooked on my mandatory reconsideration and I feel like I’m fighting a losing battle.
Thank you for taking the time to read x
  • BIS
19 Mar 2025 19:18

Do I need to have mobility to apply for a Blue badge.

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi rocco1504

Welcome back.

You can apply directly for a Blue Badge from your local council and be assessed by them without having a PIP mobility.

Are you going to apply for a mandatory reconsideration?

BIS
  • rocco1504
19 Mar 2025 15:59

Do I need to have mobility to apply for a Blue badge.

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi again everyone.
Not been here for a few years.

I've just been awarded Standard rate PIP but only for my daily needs.
I have stage 3 emphysema and peripheral vascular disease, Type 2 diabetes and cardio problems.

Obviously on my application forms I put that I have difficulty with walking, but that I could walk 50m but only up to 100m before I get either puffed out or my legs are so painful that I have to stop to let the pain subside.

But I also put that some days i can't even get 50m before I'm puffing like an old steam train, and struggling badly.

Having read their report, I just don't understand how contradicting it is, I mean it takes into account that I have to have a bucket downstairs so I can pee during the day because I can't always make the toilet upstairs, and I got 2 points for that, but they can't seem to relate that to the fact that sometimes I can't walk more than 50m.
Anyway I only got 4 points for mobility.

I'm not really worried about the money part but I could really use getting a Blue badge so that I don't have to keep struggling to get places on time and having to make the rest of my family wait while I can muster the energy for the next leg of a journey.

I have to go to London tomorrow for a Lung function test at the Royal Brompton hospital and I'm dreading the journey by public transport because I can't drive in because I'd probably park in the wrong place or have to walk miles to my appointment.

Anyway sorry for the long story, but I just wondered if anyone else had been able to get a Blue badge without having mobility on their PIP claim.

Many thanks
Paul
  • UC:
11 Mar 2025 19:18
Replied by UC: on topic PIP Review and Blue Badge

PIP Review and Blue Badge

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Quick update!
I had a telephone with my local Council about the best way moving forward.

She could not have been more helpful and supportive, pledging how determined the Council would be in to ensure that I am not without my Blue Badge due to DWP backlog of PIP reviews!

There are some decent Departments!
  • BIS
10 Mar 2025 16:48
Replied by BIS on topic PIP Review and Blue Badge

PIP Review and Blue Badge

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi UC:

I understand your frustration - unfortunately, 12 weeks for blue badge renewal is standard across the country. The DWP used to be willing to send out a letter to say that a claimant's award had been extended, but they have stopped doing that now. A couple of members have applied for their Blue Badge directly with their local council and got it that way. - so they didn't have weeks without one. I'm afraid I don't have any other suggestion - let's hope someone else does.

BIS
  • UC:
10 Mar 2025 08:31
PIP Review and Blue Badge was created by UC:

PIP Review and Blue Badge

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Good Morning,
In line with so many others, my DLA ‘Indefinite’ award became redundant with the transition to PIP.

My current PIP award extends to May of this year and I receive enhanced rates for both components.

My PIP Review formally commenced in September 2024, upon receipt of my completed Review Form.

I have just received yet another text message from DWP to advise that they will be progressing my review as soon as they can and that I will continue to receive PIP until my review is complete.

Unfortunately, my Blue Badge expires in May and I was wondering if anyone else has been in a similar situation and could advise how to proceed with a possible renewal of my Blue Badge?

Where I live, the processing period for Blue Badge renewal is 12 weeks!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
  • Binky
08 Mar 2025 12:55
Pip review was created by Binky

Pip review

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Good afternoon just wondering ive sent my review form back for pip 3 month ago if they do a paper based which I had last time and requested this time would I know quicker, also my mobility car is up in September with the pip but I can order in June and my blue badge is up in August the stress is awful especially when you have a life long condition its hard to explain the waiting feeling when I worked has a nurse 15 years ago its so hard and I'm sure most people on here are living in fear of having no money .
  • Shelie
30 Jan 2025 13:21

Is it worth asking for a review, I’m approaching 65

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi, I’m sorry if the question has been asked before. I’m trying to decide if it’s worth me asking for an award review as I’m nearly 65. I’m currently on pip standard rate on daily living and mpnothing on mobility, I’ve done a couple of self reviews and my points show that I should be receiving enhanced on daily living and standard on mobility, at my last review that I requested 2yrs ago as my conditions had worsened and I had evidence of arthritis in my knees, hands and ankles, my award stayed the same rather than being increased. I’ve now gone through my local council and they have given me a blue badge which is a god send.
I’m worried if I ask for a review I will lose my award altogether as I’m approaching 65 next month(feb) and then not be able to appeal if the time scale takes me to pension age 66.
  • BIS
21 Jan 2025 14:45
Replied by BIS on topic Pip review

Pip review

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi Julie

Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to tell. There is a backlog and we know that they are prioritising new claims. It will depend on whether they do a paper-based assessment or invite you to a telephone or video or face to face assessment. (Telephone is the most common). If they don't do a paper-based assessment it will then also depend on the availability of assessors where you live. (There is no information available on that). There are people who have heard within six weeks, but for many it has been much, much longer.

The issue you have with a blue badge is a common one and there is little you can do these days as the DWP has been reluctant to confirm that a claimant's PIP might continue until they have proof. Some people have applied directly to their council.

Sorry I couldn't reassure you - but the reality is that we just don't know the timescales.

BIS
  • Binky
21 Jan 2025 13:47
Pip review was created by Binky

Pip review

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

I had my review form for pip me and my husband filled it in lots of the same letters scans results and another letter of my dr i have a life long condition was just wondering how long are the reviews taking has my blue badge will be up in June and waiting is so stressful thankyou .
  • hells36
16 Jan 2025 18:25
My PIP Review result was created by hells36

My PIP Review result

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hopefully this will give you all hope.

I sent my review of my PIP back in February 2024. A few months later I rang for an update and was told it would take a year if not longer to process. Also that they would send me a letter in November extending my claim for a year!

I received the letter in November saying it had been extended, then two days later received another letter with the outcome of the review. I'd kept my high rate mobility and was one point away from high rate care (That was a change from my original claim as before I was three points away)

The award has been given for 5 years.

The wait was stressful especially as I had to renew my blue badge during the time that I was waiting for the outcome.
Therefore had to apply not using my benefit proof which made that harder than it would of been
  • AndyWalker13
18 Dec 2024 21:28
SR1 Form and PIP Form was created by AndyWalker13

SR1 Form and PIP Form

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

I wrote about 4/5 hours ago and seem to have lost the post I asked help on.
I just need some advice on the SR1 Form and Standard PIP Form.
My wife was diagnosed with Stage III lung cancer yesterday when we met with her Oncologist and MacMillan nurse.
Due to the size of the tumour, the fact she has an entire collapse of the lung and mass in the airway and the fact they cannot operate or carry out radiation, they are unsure how long she may have to live with just chemotherapy. The Macmillan nurse said she would qualify for PIP under Special Rules and not to worry as they will sort out the paperwork and also a blue badge for her.
This afternoon, out of the blue we got a call from Citizens Advice who basically said we had to apply for a PIP form from DWP. I said surely the SR1 Form meant she did not have to fill out the standard form and also the SR1 was filled out by medical professionals and sent direct to the DWP so why would we need to apply for the 50 page PIP form? He said the guy from Citizens Advice who normally did the paperwork was on holiday and back in the new year so he was just getting the ball rolling and I needed to contact DWP on my wife's behalf. I really am confused. Should I go back to MacMillan nurses or should I contact DWP. I really do not want to get involved in this as I know the SR1 form is for those diagnosed with less than 12 months to live and I know just how awful the standard PIP format is and the process you have to go through hence my lack of wanting to be involved. Surely between medical staff and Citizens advice this could be sorted without dragging us into the equation.... Any help is appreciated.
  • Kevsue19
18 Dec 2024 21:11
Replied by Kevsue19 on topic First PIP review

First PIP review

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

I thought I would share my review times with you. My last review in 2020 was for 5 years ending in April 2025
. Got my “your review has started” text at the end of November 2023. That’s a good 18 months before my review ended.
I had to send my review in by Christmas Day! I phoned and got an extension but still managed to send it all before 31/1/24
Then nothing expect for 3 monthly texts saying “we are still looking at your award”
I missed a phone call from DWP at the beginning of November 2024, they didn’t phone back
I then got a new award letters which must have been a paper review until 2028. The text on the letter was all copied and pasted from my last award so someone had an easy day looking at my forms! I did follow all the guidance on here and sent a lot of evidence.
Reviews see, to be taking anbout a year for many people and I was actually quite glad they reviewed mine early as I had no problems with my blue badge renewal! Good luck
  • AndyWalker13
18 Dec 2024 17:50
SR1 Form was created by AndyWalker13

SR1 Form

Category: ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results

Hi

I hope someone can give me some advice. Unfortunately following many tests/scans, my wife has been diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer. She is quite poorly and we only saw the consultant oncologist yesterday along with one of the MacMillan nurses. She cannot have surgery or radiation and will commence chemotherapy in the new year. Our MacMillan nurse told us at the end of the meeting my wife would be eligible for PIP and she would sort out an SR1 submission and Blue badge for her. I came off the phone about half an hour ago completely confused. We had just taken a call out of the blue from Citizens Advice telling us to apply to the DWP for a PIP form by phoning them. He told us he had an SR1 form at the office but also need us to get a standard PIP form. I was under the impression the only form needed was an SR1 form which was filled in by doctors and MacMillan nurses and would not require both forms. Please can you advise because the chap from Citizens Advice sounded a bit unsure and we were also under the impression they would be filling in and submitting forms for both PIP and a Blue Badge. Many thanks Andy
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