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TOPIC: MR depression.

MR depression. 6 months 3 weeks ago #228150

Hi. My first post I’ll keep it short as.

My first award was 2 years scored 11 points.

2nd review got zero points. It stated it was based on medical notes and there assessment.

One problem is the incontinence I only had a slight leak during the assessment. She asked how I deal with this. After a blank I said toilet roll. I was just about to show her the sweat on my trousers as she turned up early and I was spiralling. I noticed the wet patch and she never prompted me to get changed or offered to wait till I did. She finished the review.

She gave zero points for that and said I didn’t need any help. I suffer depression after a breakdown 6 years ago. This incontinemce is when I go to work or when I go out in public or when I’m under pressure. I don’t really manage it.

I feel on reflection I obviously need to be prompted to change I obviously am not ma aging it well. I was not shown any empathy or given the dignity to go and change I don’t know how long this has been going on but I didn’t expect it to happen. I knew I had to show her. But she just carried on asking the questions. I’m not really fit mentally to challenge all this a attend the Drs only in extreme circumstances and look after myself poorly. I did explain this to her. That I have problems keeping appointments. When I read the letter I freaked out I rang them and cried uncontrollably and told them I’m not I liar and answered all the questions honestly. What advice can you give.

Sorry it’s so long it takes me ages to get a point across.

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MR depression. 6 months 3 weeks ago #228172


You have two options;

- Make a new claim for PIP, there is no waiting time, or
- Appeal the current Decision.

In either case you will need to deal with the issue that meant that you did not score.

Whilst an inaccurate report is almost certain to have played a part you also need to consider whether you have properly explained your problems in your claim form, is it possible that you have misunderstood the Descriptors, described your problems in terms that do not match the Descriptors or failed to make appropriate use of the reliability criteria or the need for your limitations on the majority of days to be considered?

The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process, the PIP area also has template letters that you can use to make the request with.


You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.

Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;

"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"

than their opinions

"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.

When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.


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