The DWP have rolled out a new, pre-WCA interview to 12 new areas in an effort to get more sick and disabled claimants moving towards work before any decision has been made about whether they have Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA).

The DWP claim that “Employment and Health Discussion” (EHD) trial that took place in Leeds “helped hundreds of people move towards work”. 

According to the DWP, a ‘work ability plan’ is created in the course of a one-hour conversation between a health practitioner and the claimant.

The plan identifies barriers to work and actions that can be taken to overcome them. The plan is then shared with the claimant’s work coach “to continue support to overcome their barriers and move them towards work.”

The DWP says that this means that “health claimants can highlight and begin to overcome any work barriers prior to undergoing a Work Capability Assessment, potentially realising a job outcome sooner.”

According to the department, the Leeds pilot showed that most claimants were able to understand their own health better as a result of the discussion.

The DWP say that EHDs are voluntary.

They were first unveiled in this year’s health and disability white paper, when the government insisted that the discussion is not an assessment, does not carry sanctions and does not gather information for the WCA.

They also said that “it is not necessary for the healthcare professional carrying out an EHD to be an expert on complex disabilities. However, they will have an understanding of how health conditions impact day to day life.”

No information has been given about what type of health professionals will carry out EHDs, what training they will have received or what a work ability plan looks like.

The aim is clearly to put something in place in the lead up to the proposed complete abolition of the WCA, when it would be left largely to work coaches to decide what activities a claimant can undertake. 

Whether EHDs will remain voluntary and sanction free remains to be seen.

In the meantime, one major concern is that claimants who will be placed in the Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) group when they finally have their WCA may already have been pushed into inappropriate work preparation activities by a work coach armed with an EHD.

Benefits and Work would advise claimants to consider very carefully whether they wish to take part in an EHD, as long as they remain entirely voluntary.  We would also be very interested to see any invitation letters and to hear what takes place at the interview,  if any readers do decide to take part in an EHD.

The 12 new sites, in addition to Leeds, which have come online are:

  • Aberdare,
  • Bradford,
  • Chelmsford,
  • Doncaster,
  • Durham,
  • Hull,
  • Lancaster,
  • Newcastle,
  • Norwich,
  • Sunderland,
  • Wigan,
  • York.

You can read more about Employment and Health Discussions here.

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    Ann . · 19 days ago
    Will you migrate to u.c if on con. ESA and in support group . 
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      Holly · 5 days ago
      @Ann . Yes that's. What they mean by everyone's going to be on uc by end of December 2025
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    Bob · 25 days ago
    I was told that remaining people on legacy benefits like ESA income based no tax credits just HB will now be brought forward to end of 2025 don't know if this is true or not if someone can answer this.  I think everything can change depending who wins general election this year. It's all worrying.  The sick and disabled seems to be getting targeted all the time.   They have to blame someone.
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    Chris · 2 months ago
    The article says it will not include irESA and then says 90000 on irESA will be migrated, I am confused.
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      Pat753 · 1 months ago
      @Chris I take that to mean people on irESA <b>and</b> Child Tax Credit, not people on irESA only, or irESA & HB.
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    Annette · 2 months ago
    Will you get less money under UC than Housing Benefit? And less money than ESA. When I was transferred from Tax Credits at the time UC was introduced I received less money. I'm wondering if they will find a way to do it with every benefit. Maybe they will just work it out a different way so you end up with less.
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    Holly · 2 months ago
    Sorry guys for my comments I don't trust them 
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    Holly · 2 months ago
    The politicians are once again on about cutting working age related benefits for the disabled  to cut out national insurance. From September before next general election 
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    sandra57 · 2 months ago
    I’m also in support group 
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    sandra57 · 2 months ago
    I’m receiving esa paid through my contributions, Scottish adp and Scottish pip.   I have been on these for a couple of years since being off my work.    I’m not unemployed as I’m still employed by my employer.   I don’t receive rent or any other benefits.  I’m worried like everyone on here and was wondering how this will affect myself?  Can anyone say 
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    Leonora · 2 months ago
    I’m on ESA support group and I’ve received a letter which includes my 2 private pensions but it’s saying I’m still entitled to ESA then on next page it says to report changes ie if conditions worsen or get better also to report husband or partners income/savings ??  I’ve never been asked about the latter before, I’m confused. 
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    Holly · 2 months ago
    Geremy hunt wanted to bring forward esa claimints going on to universal credit from 2025 instead of 2028 his comments were everyone with anxiety and depression would be better of in work because it would help then it said he wanted to do this as they would get regular help with a work coach , it says also now he may I quote may have put it on hold because they cannot afford to do it. This was printed in the sun newspaper online .   
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      MrFibro · 2 months ago
      @Holly Holly, Thank god i'll be retired in 2025, it's just been decades of jumping through hoops of hell, non stop.

      Hopefully it will be 2028, but not sure how this holds if Labour get in.  I can only assume or guess that Labour will just re-brand what the Nasty Tory party has been doing over the last 14 years.
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      James · 2 months ago
      @Holly @Holly yes I just read it today theirs just to many people to get threw in such a short time must be 2 million at least so just enjoy the last bit of peace and quiet like I’m doing I’m dreading the move to uc myself my friend is on it she says it’s just constant threats and sanctions 
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    Elaine · 2 months ago
    I am on income support and carers allowance will I have to go to a job coach also wish they left things the way they were 
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    Bonniebuzz · 2 months ago
    Im confused! I. get iresa, & pip since 2013 due to disabilities and am. in my early 60’s. My esa runs for renewal in 2025 but with the benefit raise due April I got letter saying new rates will be blah blah &  will will run from april to november 2024..could this be cos they plan merging me to uc? cos thats the first time ive only had esa run for few months? asking as was led to believe that ireasa with housing benefit migrated around 2028?
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    Jlee · 2 months ago
    How do you know if you are on IR ESA?  is it on esa letters,,it confuses me.........
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      MrFibro · 2 months ago
      @Jlee Hi Jlee,

      I'm on IR ESA, but on bank statements it says EESA ?

      Confusing right ?


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    Rach · 2 months ago
    What about people on Income related ESA who get PIP & HB whose partners get Carers Allowance Housing Benefit or Income Support top up for being full time carer. Does this count as being Income Related and HB? 

    Does this count as migration or non migration?
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      Jill · 2 months ago
      @Rach Income support is a legacy benefit, unfortunately you will be migrated. 
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    That’s life · 2 months ago
    Me and my partner have just had to migrate over from tax credits my partner works I get pip they said I had to get a sick note as I’m not on sickness  benifit never claimed when I left work through ill health the doctor gave me a 13 week sick note but that caused a change in circumstances so we are entitled to nothing now so much for you won’t be any worse of  we £460 a month because I can’t get sickness benifit because my national insurance contribution ran out over 2 year ago so don’t believe when they say you will be no worse off 
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      Jill · 2 months ago
      @That’s life Can you not make a claim for lcwra? You will need a work capability assessment first. 
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    Chris' · 2 months ago
    Whatever DWP are up to with these changes it likely will be to their monetary benefit and claimants less better off. Also the aim globally is to get all claimants and unemployed onto a Universal Income because AI robots will take over majority of jobs. Hence humans are not of much value anymore. This is my view.
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    The Dog mother · 2 months ago
    They were told and warned not to introduce UC at the beginning..  that it would fall foul.. bet thats the words they needed to hear to press ahead.. So they could totally bamboozle us. I dread the day I'm forced onto it. It needs scrapped and fast. It's the absolute worst thing in a very long line of worst things they've drummed up. 
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    Jen · 2 months ago
    Can someone clarify my situation, and advise if I will be migrating anytime soon? I'm on CB esa and my partner gets working tax credit and has deferred his state pension. Any advice would be much appreciated. 
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      Leonora · 2 months ago
      @Chris' Hi I’m on support group contribution based, the letter says I can still claim even though I have 2 small private pensions but then it’s asking for info on partners income/savings I wasn’t aware this affected  C based ESA I don’t understand it 
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      Jill · 2 months ago
      @Rach Yes youre on the list this year or next sorry x
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      Jill · 2 months ago
      @Chris' Income support, income based esa working tax credits housing benefit income based jsa. Cant remember the last one 
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      Jill · 2 months ago
      @Jen  Sorry not sure but cb esa claimants dont migrate tax credits will your partner will migrate. 
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      Rach · 2 months ago
      @Chris' Same. I get PIP and partner gets Income Support and Carers Allowance. It is unclear whether these are being migrated sooner...You just feel stressed all the time! 
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    Sharon · 3 months ago
    Hi on pip, wtc and wage whilst partner on jsc (came from invalidity onto incapacity then jsc) also on pip. When are we expected to go onto uc. Not on housing benefit and no kids.
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    Am · 3 months ago
    Make sure you wait to migrate till after the April uprating, if within the time limit. Otherwise you'll lose 6.7% of your TP in the first year
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      Mike · 2 months ago
      @Am Yeah it's a horrible situation with the transitional protection.  It gets eroded every year and there is no replacement for it.   Awful system.