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Claiming ESA Support and renting a flat

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9 years 3 months ago - 9 years 3 months ago #127701 by Belinda Snow
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I've been on ESA Support since end of July after attending a stressful tribunal. I have mental health problems which are social anxiety and depression. I'm 37 years old and live with my parents still. I want to move out and rent a private flat to gain independence which means I would have to claim for housing benefit. My parents and I are concerned that I will lose my ESA support if I move out as the DWP might think I'm a lot better and able to cope ok on my own. The main problem why I can't work is because being around other people and socialising with them causes alot of anxiety and stress. I can get out and about on my own to shops cos I can control how long I'm in them and not allow the anxiety to build up much. I feel like I want to improve on my mh problems but I'm scared that my benefit will be stopped.
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9 years 3 months ago - 9 years 3 months ago #127707 by
Hi,

Welcome to Benefits and Work :)

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You would obviously have to inform The DWP ESA Benefits Office that deals with your ESA in writing, if you were to move to a new address :

Sending Documents to the DWP or ATOS

The only problems that I could possibly foresee would be if your living alone and any activities/actions necessary as a result of this were in direct contradiction to the limitations that qualified you for your ESA Support Group Award.

Even though a change of address is a Change in Circumstances which must be reported to The DWP, it would not normally trigger a re-assessment of a current ESA award.

As you may know any claim for HB or LHA must be made via your Local Authority/Council.

Please reply to this topic if you have any further queries.

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9 years 3 months ago #127899 by Belinda Snow
Replied by Belinda Snow on topic Claiming ESA Support and renting a flat
Thanks for your help. I just have a few more questions.

I've been receiving counselling and I'm improving with getting out on my own to shops and going to appointments now. I would still have problems going to unfamiliar places on my own though.

For my ESA claim, at the time I scored 6 points for stating that I can't cope with minor unplanned change, 9 points for not being able to get about on my own to familiar places (which obviously is better now) and 6 points for struggling in social contact with someone unfamiliar to me. I also won the support component that working would worsen my problems. Only one part has changed which is getting out to familiar places. I still however have massive problems being around people and engaging with them and being able to work would cause my mental health conditions to worsen. I have a history of suicidal attempts and been on a lot of valium & zopiclone drugs in the past. I know what I can and can't cope with.

I feel now that I want to move into a flat and become independent but am worried the DWP will think I'm better and able to work which I'm not!!! Also the place I want to live at is 7 miles from my family home.

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9 years 3 months ago #127927 by Gordon
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clo-cat

There are two obvious areas where your living alone may cause the DWP to look at your claim again.

How will you provide the necessities that you will need to live on, for example food and the like, can you go to the shops on your own and make these purchases?

Secondly, if you need prompting to do things, how will you receive this when you are on your own?

There are lots of ways that these things can be done while you live on your own, for example; maybe your mother could take you shopping once a week and perhaps, if you need prompting, your parents could phone you as needed to make sure you are doing things.

The bottom line is that there are practical things that you are going to have to do to live alone, how you solve those problems will give you a better understanding of how you might answer any concerns raised by the DWP.

One final point, your moving out and living alone is not in itself reason for the DWP to re-assess your claim, however, if your doing so is because of an improvement of your conditions, then you have an obligation to notify the DWP.

Gordon

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9 years 3 months ago #127997 by Benson
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This is interesting :) Clo-Cat is in the same situation as me, I am in my 30's, in the support group, similar health issues, live at home, and want to finally move out but am afraid what may happen to my benefits. My parents have now retired and are entering their 70's, I feel awful for being "under their feet" day in day out. I also feel the need to have my own place, the older you get I guess the more you need this independence. I would probably need to live near by as I do need their help still, but close by should be ok.

I have always lived at home with my parents and have led a fairly sheltered live because of both that and my long term illness. I don't know the first thing about moving out, do I have to move first and then apply for the benefits, or do I apply first ? Will the landlord look down on me or refuse me because I am single and on ESA due to health issues ?

It is good to hear from Gordon and Bro58 that a change of address shouldn't trigger a re-assessment. This was a primary concern of mine. I guess I shouldn't worry too much as I have seen many benefit related TV shows and people seem to move about on a nearly monthly basis, and I am guessing nothing changes with them.

Any ideas of what information the housing benefit people need when applying ? Is it fast tracked (less forms) if you are already on a benefit, such as ESA ? Am I also right in thinking there are 2 types of housing benefit ?

Sorry to hijack this thread but what I ask may also help the OP and our situations are very similar.

Thanks !!

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9 years 3 months ago #128001 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Claiming ESA Support and renting a flat
Benson

We don't deal with Housing Benefit on the forum and as I am not in receipt of it myself I cannot draw from my own experience to help.

The Shelter site has a guide to claiming HB including the forms that you would need to complete, there is other information that may also be of use to you.

england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/housin...-9W2YmvgJRoCQ-Xw_wcB

Housing Benefit is a means tested benefit only, so there is only one version with eligibility depending on your personal circumstances, the criteria are broadly the same as those for ESA(IR) although the payment system is significantly different and to some extent will depend on your own Local Authority.

Whilst I applaud your intention to move in this direction, please think carefully about the day to day challenges you might face living on your own, it is likely that all of them can be overcome in one way or another, but the answers may not be immediately obvious and make take time to put in place, a luxury you may not have once you are doing it for real.

Best wishes

Gordon

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