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8 years 2 weeks ago #156991 by raindaisy
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Hi

The PIP appeal last July was allowed and review in 2017 , it was backdated to march of 2014. i was awarded no care , but lower mobility .

i have been sent a review "intervention" form a year before the review date.

Included in my last application was ongoing investigations to repeated admissions due to chest pain. it was concluded it was gallbladder and had the op to remove it in June last year. i attended the tribunal 6 days after surgery. not that this helped as im a stubborn mare , advised not attend , but after 16 months of waiting , i wanted it over.

since then , i had further admissions and extensive invasive tests into heart , have all come back normal. extremely good news!! all checks on billary tree are normal, however my GP dx post surgery adhesion as i am still in pain. a investigation to confirm dx is invasive.

I have widespread chronic fibromyalgia and reoccurring chest pain is a symptom of FM. GP wants to explore some more meds before additional pain killers are prescribed.

so whilst in the last 9 months i have had lots of positive results , i still suffer chest pain and discomfort and this imapcts on my ability to do things throughout the day. my pain and fatigue had increased since surgery . i have more regular flare up and the gap between flares has narrowed. shall i mention that? and send the positively good result letters ?

Im using your guide ( thank you ) on q 6 . proberly continue later . Do you think it would be helpful to enclose all letters from consultants , even thou its good news? my last letter from the GI surgeon comments on my limited moobility and advising against increased exercise due to FM and fatigue, just continue as i am losing weight (albeit slowly)

On my last form i stated chronic fatigue , the GP at the time said a referral for tests on CFS was necessary. At the tribunal the doctor asked had i been to a specialist, i said and told him what GP said. I showed this new GP my ist of illness and she said i should cross off CFS as it has not officially been proved or dx. However , she said FM on its own is OK and chronic fatigue is a symptom of FM. what do you think , i dont put it on? pain and fatigue are HUGE when in a flare and falling asleep is a big issue for me!!

NB i have my last form open and there are only 2 changes, however when i got to the toilet needs , page 15 , was missing! i looked at my last form , i had ticked no help needed, but they did not include that question! that cant be right surely?? what if i had further bladder surgery ??? or a bloke with new dx prostrate problems???? TIA

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8 years 1 week ago - 8 years 1 week ago #157017 by slugsta
Replied by slugsta on topic PIP REVIEW FORM AKA "INTERVENTION"
Hi rd,

Yes, I'm afraid DWP start the reassessments 1 year before they are due to end. It is a sad indictment of the system and how long everything is taking.

Don't forget that PIP will be awarded because of your symptoms and associated limitations rather than simply a diagnosis. In your situation I think I would mention all my symptoms, it shouldn't matter name they are given.

As for supporting letters, whilst still being honest, you don't have to include anything that is not helpful. If a letter says. for instance, 'Mrs Raindaisy is still getting a lot of pain and can only walk a few steps, despite all tests being normal', I would class that as helpful. Something that says 'Mrs Raindaisy's results are normal, so there is clearly nothing wrong with her' would hardly be supportive!

As far as page 15 goes - do you mean this is missing from the old form? DWP are highly unlikely to refer to this. You need to treat this reassessment as you did the original claim and include all information about your limitations.

You should bookmark or favourite this topic now so that you can find it easily in future. That way you will be able to return and ask further questions, rather than having to start a new topic each time. It helps us enormously if everything related to the same claim is kept in one place - and I hope you will find it useful too :)

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8 years 1 week ago #157104 by raindaisy
Replied by raindaisy on topic PIP REVIEW FORMe AKA "INTERVENTION"
Thank you Mrs HB , i have lost the plot . i meant to say the last GP said is was NOT necessary to get dx for CFS , it doesnt need dx, its there, it affects me daily , end of, pretty much what you have just said, TY!

and page 15 IS NOT missing!, i found it! only i have commented, in ink, its missing on the bloody 'further info' box!!!

i was thinking to include a cover letter and bullet point symtoms i have which affect me and refer to the activity descriptor which apply to me ?? using the same/simular format of the MR letter from before , but only in my words??

they will go with the tribunal decision , who acknowledged the many difficuties but "manage them for the majority of the time " meaning the flares were long but i could manage.

since the tribunal , the GB op has been a game changer , pain , stiffness , further chest pain , unexplained , restricted diet and increased prolonged episodes of fatigue. which has put back in touch with MH professionals , Prozac and pain management therapy. is ok to summaries this in cover letter ? and give detail in form? i just want the HP and DM to make the right decision and not go backwards and kick off another appeal.

lost the plot .

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8 years 1 week ago #157118 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic PIP REVIEW FORM AKA "INTERVENTION"
raindaisy

If you want things to be considered put them in the form, not a covering letter which is really not required. If you have general information about your conditions that is not specific to any of the activities then you should include this in question 15, if you run our of space then you can add additional pages.

Chronic Fatigue is a common symptom of Fibromyalgia, but it's not a given so whilst I don't think it needs diagnosis, if you can provide evidence that you suffer from it then I think it would be to your advantage.

They are looking at your health as it is now, they may pay attention to the comments from the Tribunal but this assumes that they have access to them which they probably do not and that they think that they are still relevant, which they may not.

Gordon

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8 years 1 week ago #157170 by raindaisy
Replied by raindaisy on topic PIP REVIEW FORM AKA "INTERVENTION"
Thank you Gordon

I have spent pretty much all day on this. i am away Monday return Friday , the form has to be back by the 11 may , so I am trying to break the back of it , before i go away. I need the rest,
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I have completed a bullet point of the symptoms which affect me . ( i have gone into detail on form) I have also included , "looking backwards from today , the last 9 months ..since op..and last 3 months....

I started " i would request the Decision maker to consider my following statement along with my completed form and enclosed medical evidence *

then on next page I have put "i ask the DM to consider ii have meet the following descriptors..".

i have followed the previous submission format , and adjusted where i feel some points have changed , not really much difference, only this time focused on reliable as you said, and explained how it is majority of the time.

i have a copy of the previous GP report for PIP ( that states chronic fatigue) I have also a copy of the GP ESA report , this lists fms and depression. what do you think??

the symptoms have worsened since the op in July , and I am now engaging with MHT. I didnt do myself any favors before by "getting on with it "

i finished statement by saying thank you for your consideration .

I hope they dont use the HP report for PIP assessment last year, it was a sham. If i get called again i will know what to expect this time.

onwards and upwards
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8 years 1 week ago #157178 by raindaisy
Replied by raindaisy on topic PIP REVIEW FORM AKA "INTERVENTION"
hi just found most recent letter from GI . In the lettter he confirms all the tests and result from july onwards and confirms i meet the criteria for bariatric surgery , however, " needs to continue investigations into right upper quandrant pain " ( pre and post op )

he also says 2 unhelpful comments ?
"in terms of diet intake she states she has porridge with berries, sandwich for lunch and sheppard for dinner..." lol the question was tell me what you ate yesterday ? ...not helpful...?
" she states she is limted to do excerise by fibromyalgia and oestiarthritis in the knees.." helpful??
then
" she is a carer for her husband who suffered a stroke...in terms of functional status she is able to walk 20 on a flat and 2 flights of stairs before she is stopped by leg pain..." at first i thought was helpful , but now i think its not..i can do te 20 meteres...but NOT the blooming stairs as well!!!..and it depends on how many stairs and if its a good day or not!!
your view would be helpful lol. ???

i have just found a new form which i thought i lost , so to complete a new form and not waffle so much , your guide is brilliant.

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