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7 years 9 months ago #163584 by justme
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I have just sent my forms off for renewal for ESA. Then got a letter saying DLA was ending. I phoned them up to start claim for PIP. Unfortunately I answered yes that they can use my old application notes, I missed your advise saying to say no to that question.
Three years ago I went through 18 months of sheer hell with tribunals for both ESA and DLA and I won both. But it took a lot out of me and I had help then which I haven't got now, eg. Benefit Advice centers are all closed down, and CAB are the only option left to me to help with form filling etc. I'm not sure if I can go through both again I'm finding it all too much again, too soon.
Do I still have to follow through and claim PIP even though I have made the phonecall. I live alone and no family, friends to help and I dont think I can take both on again at the same time as I did 3 year ago. Do I have to carry on with this PIP claim? Can I claim it at a later date? I'm in a turmoil
Three years ago I went through 18 months of sheer hell with tribunals for both ESA and DLA and I won both. But it took a lot out of me and I had help then which I haven't got now, eg. Benefit Advice centers are all closed down, and CAB are the only option left to me to help with form filling etc. I'm not sure if I can go through both again I'm finding it all too much again, too soon.
Do I still have to follow through and claim PIP even though I have made the phonecall. I live alone and no family, friends to help and I dont think I can take both on again at the same time as I did 3 year ago. Do I have to carry on with this PIP claim? Can I claim it at a later date? I'm in a turmoil
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7 years 9 months ago #163620 by Gordon
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I'm afraid once an invitation to claim PIP has been issued you have no choice but to continue with it or you risk your DLA claim being closed in the short term rather than after a Decision has been made on your PIP claim.
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I'm afraid once an invitation to claim PIP has been issued you have no choice but to continue with it or you risk your DLA claim being closed in the short term rather than after a Decision has been made on your PIP claim.
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7 years 9 months ago #163664 by Lily
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Why is it advised not to use previous notes thsnkyoub
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7 years 9 months ago #163665 by Gordon
It's not!
But there are issues; many DLA claimants have not been assessed for some time and it possible that the old DLA evidence is no longer relevant to their conditions as they are now. There is also a possibility that the information is no longer available as the DWP regularly destroy old documents. Finally, there is the issue of whether those assessing will actually look at the information even if available.
Our recommendation is to source all evidence yourself, wherever possible and include it with your PIP2, that way you can ensure that the information is brought to the attention of those assessing you and that it is integrated into your answers in the PIP2.
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Lily wrote: Why is it advised not to use previous notes thsnkyoub
It's not!
But there are issues; many DLA claimants have not been assessed for some time and it possible that the old DLA evidence is no longer relevant to their conditions as they are now. There is also a possibility that the information is no longer available as the DWP regularly destroy old documents. Finally, there is the issue of whether those assessing will actually look at the information even if available.
Our recommendation is to source all evidence yourself, wherever possible and include it with your PIP2, that way you can ensure that the information is brought to the attention of those assessing you and that it is integrated into your answers in the PIP2.
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7 years 9 months ago #163667 by taylor
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Hi, hope this post is in correct place. If you agree to dwp using previous information they have, my question is do the dwp still send you a pip2 to fill in and return to them, if you have agreed to them using information they hold already. thanks.
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7 years 9 months ago #163688 by Gordon
Even if used the DLA information will still be old and oriented towards the DLA criteria, so the DWP will still issue a PP2 to find out how you are now and of course how well you meet the PIP criteria.
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taylor wrote: Hi, hope this post is in correct place. If you agree to dwp using previous information they have, my question is do the dwp still send you a pip2 to fill in and return to them, if you have agreed to them using information they hold already. thanks.
Even if used the DLA information will still be old and oriented towards the DLA criteria, so the DWP will still issue a PP2 to find out how you are now and of course how well you meet the PIP criteria.
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