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9 years 3 weeks ago #164588 by concunningham
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Hi,
firstly I'm new to this site.
I have noticed that under Universal credit the points needed for an increased award due to limited capability is 15 yet under PIP or ESA it is 8 or 12 fro enhanced.
This does not seem right. Am I missing something?
firstly I'm new to this site.
I have noticed that under Universal credit the points needed for an increased award due to limited capability is 15 yet under PIP or ESA it is 8 or 12 fro enhanced.
This does not seem right. Am I missing something?
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9 years 3 weeks ago #164609 by Gordon
I'm afraid you are you are confusing the benefits
Both UC and ESA require the claimant to score 15 points to be placed in the WRAG and to meet specific Descriptors to be placed in the Support Group.
PIP is a separate benefit from both UC and ESA and has it's own scoring system of 8 points for a Standard award and 12 for an Enhanced award.
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Con Cunningham wrote: Hi,
firstly I'm new to this site.
I have noticed that under Universal credit the points needed for an increased award due to limited capability is 15 yet under PIP or ESA it is 8 or 12 fro enhanced.
This does not seem right. Am I missing something?
I'm afraid you are you are confusing the benefits

Both UC and ESA require the claimant to score 15 points to be placed in the WRAG and to meet specific Descriptors to be placed in the Support Group.
PIP is a separate benefit from both UC and ESA and has it's own scoring system of 8 points for a Standard award and 12 for an Enhanced award.
Gordon
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9 years 1 week ago #165563 by concunningham
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Thanks for replying to my previous post.
This may sound strange but if you qualify for PIP with say only 8 points do you not automatocally qualify for ESA?
I was thinking (no doubt wrongly) that In theory you amy not get enough points under an assessment for ESA but enough under a PIP assessment.
Is that possible?
This may sound strange but if you qualify for PIP with say only 8 points do you not automatocally qualify for ESA?
I was thinking (no doubt wrongly) that In theory you amy not get enough points under an assessment for ESA but enough under a PIP assessment.
Is that possible?
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9 years 1 week ago - 9 years 1 week ago #165564 by slugsta
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I'm afraid it is not possible to qualify automatically for either PIP or ESA via an award for the other benefit.
The criteria for ESA and PIP are very different (even where they appear to be similar). It is perfectly possible to qualify for enhanced rates of PIP and work full time!
When the time comes you will be assessed for each benefit separately and might even be required to have 2 face2face assessments
The criteria for ESA and PIP are very different (even where they appear to be similar). It is perfectly possible to qualify for enhanced rates of PIP and work full time!
When the time comes you will be assessed for each benefit separately and might even be required to have 2 face2face assessments

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9 years 1 week ago #165566 by Gordon
Although some of the activities for ESA and PIP appear to be similar they actually have different criteria, there are no automatic qualifications from benefit to the other, a claimant could be in the SG for ESA and receive no PIP award and receive an Enhanced award for PIP and no ESA.
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Con Cunningham wrote: Thanks for replying to my previous post.
This may sound strange but if you qualify for PIP with say only 8 points do you not automatocally qualify for ESA?
I was thinking (no doubt wrongly) that In theory you amy not get enough points under an assessment for ESA but enough under a PIP assessment.
Is that possible?
Although some of the activities for ESA and PIP appear to be similar they actually have different criteria, there are no automatic qualifications from benefit to the other, a claimant could be in the SG for ESA and receive no PIP award and receive an Enhanced award for PIP and no ESA.
Gordon
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9 years 1 week ago #165748 by concunningham
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Thanks again.
your help is appreciated.
your help is appreciated.

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