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TOPIC: PIP review assessment in the morning

PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 4 weeks ago #224646

Hi
On my 5th f2f in the morning...this time PIP review , I completed my form using your guide , I was quite detailed , I am thinking of bringing a copy with me for reminder. Im going in on my own , again. just a head up . i did have one appointment through , and it was in the middle of Croydon at 8.30 in the morning. No parking, tram stop closed, and 8.30 was not happening. So i asked to changed it and was offered another , 10 miles away , literally so much nearer and in my district! so took that one. Then got a call on Thursday, could i make this Tuesday? same place. same time . seeing ive really had enough of the whole process, im going. im in a flare , but hey ho. any additional advice please or where can i read some updates on f2f?

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PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 3 weeks ago #224650

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The PIP Claim guide covers the assessment and the questions you are likely to be asked.

It's difficult to offer advice for the day as assessors approach the interview in their own way but one thing to think about is what the assessor is actually asking you, they often look for a "yes" or "no" answer so think about how you can answer this while still getting across your limitations, understanding that they often stop listening once they have heard the magic word.

So, rather than saying "yes, I can do this but only when..." try "no, I can only do it when..." if that makes sense.

Gordon

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PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 3 weeks ago #224657

Thank you Gordon,

It was rushed , bish bosh, but i did get to give detail , im glad i read on here late last night you said on one post the review was like a new claim, and I had asked, no change etc...so re read my review form from 2016 and made notes and put them in front of me. You were right, it was a whole new tick box assessment for points, and HCP said at one point, "you'll need to be more detailed as you will get more points" lol.
I ended up bringing my OH in there as there was no where for him to sit . He's disabled so that worried me because of the whole carer/ disability issue thingy.
short physical, do this do that , i said no .
I did focused on bad days and the length of the flare and how over the last 18 moth things have deteriorated, but i now know why. HCP said "I have medical evidence for all you have told me"
assessment from start to finish 1 hour.
i would most definitely recommended what you said, takes some notes, and reminder of key words that i apply to you. ie ....stiffness, tightness, burning, piercing , prompt, and a reminder of the activities you struggle with. Ive rang DWP already and requested a copy of medical to be sent out to me. That's all I can do now . Thank you all for your hard work . I will let you know.
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PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 2 weeks ago #225657

Hi

I got a copy of the HCP PIP assessment report .
Ive got my act together this afternoon and read it fully.
On the whole , its bog standard, "stood up without using table" "took off heavy coat" etc etc .
Seems she was enthusiastic at the start, then waned , and the answers and justifications are one liners.
The MSE is a joke. Cut and paste job.
However,
I scored 9 pts on care last time .
This time she has scored me 6 pts.
This time , I gained 2 points on toileting . 0 pts last time fair but embarrassing, and i wasn't totally open about problems as it was a bloke. This time HCP had to encourage me to open up about the problems i have and there is medical evidence to back me up.
She then scored 0 points on dressing and undressing.
0 points on washing and bathing and there is medical evidence to support movement is difficult .
However, MH was considered last time.
This hasn't changed. Not a bit. But I was engaging with the MH team, my MH is now managed under the GP now and I see her regularly , I am still on same medication , only choose not to take higher dose due to side effects.
She also scored me 0 points on mixing with others. I scored 2 last time. needing prompting etc. However, on the report she has recorded I only engage with family on low mood days, I do not go out alone when having bad days .
Her Justification is :
"the AR1 reports no change, PA4 reports B, this is inconsistent with with this report , she has no dx cognitive conditions, although she has MH condition, she takes lose dose first line medication , and has no specialist input or care plans"

I lost 4 pts on planning and following journeys on the same justification.
I scored 4 pts on moving about ( B) Same as before.

Did i see on here , there is a small window where I can contact the DM before the decision is received and raise my concerns that the cognitive problems and MH problems have not been considered ?

So what do you think?
I think I can challenge this ?

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PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 2 weeks ago #225667

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PIP Decisions are taking about 8 weeks from the assessment date but I would still urge you to be quick in contacting the Decision Maker.

So, you can write to the DM with your comments on the report, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points it can be tempting to comment on things like bad spelling and other things like this but they won't help you.

If you comment on the assessor's opinions then try and do so by referencing your evidence to undermine the basis on which the opinion has been made.

The letter needs to go to the DWP office dealing with your claim.

Gordon
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PIP review assessment in the morning 3 months 1 week ago #225684

Hi what does DM mean please ?
Thanks for thread I'm new at this so its helpful to follow

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