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5 years 5 months ago #241233 by Helen
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Hi I have been award standard rate for mobility. The descriptor is "You cannot undertake any journey because it would cause you overwelming psychological distress."
I cannot go out unaccompanied, I have stated that in my pip form and again at my home F2F. I think I should be awarded the higher rate. As the discriptor is "Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid." Am I correct?
I also never speak to people on the phone or answer my door, I rarely go out, not even to the doctors. They have awarded me 2 points for mixing with other people, surely it should be more than that? Do you need to be in a coma for the full 8 points on that descriptor?
Thanks for your time.
I cannot go out unaccompanied, I have stated that in my pip form and again at my home F2F. I think I should be awarded the higher rate. As the discriptor is "Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid." Am I correct?
I also never speak to people on the phone or answer my door, I rarely go out, not even to the doctors. They have awarded me 2 points for mixing with other people, surely it should be more than that? Do you need to be in a coma for the full 8 points on that descriptor?
Thanks for your time.
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5 years 5 months ago #241237 by BIS
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Hi Helen
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process, the PIP area also has template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
With regard to your question about mixing with people, I notice you say that you rarely go out. I am not an assessor, but we have had several members who have not been awarded highly for mixing with people because the assessor's argument is that the claimant does not suffer from overwhelming psychological distress because they do not put themselves in the position of trying to mix. I am not saying this applies to you or is right, I merely say it for your information. It has also happened with the Going Out activity.
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The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process, the PIP area also has template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
With regard to your question about mixing with people, I notice you say that you rarely go out. I am not an assessor, but we have had several members who have not been awarded highly for mixing with people because the assessor's argument is that the claimant does not suffer from overwhelming psychological distress because they do not put themselves in the position of trying to mix. I am not saying this applies to you or is right, I merely say it for your information. It has also happened with the Going Out activity.
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5 years 5 months ago #241252 by Ellen
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How are you explaining the extreme psychological distress/ its impact to the assessors?
What would happen if you did go out alone?
From experience they are still not keen on awarding (f) for mental health unless you never ever leave tha house even with someone.
What would happen if you did go out alone?
From experience they are still not keen on awarding (f) for mental health unless you never ever leave tha house even with someone.
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