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ESA & Permitted work - very confused
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5 years 2 months ago #244452 by acrimoniousone
ESA & Permitted work - very confused was created by acrimoniousone
Hi. I am so confused right now.
I currently receive ESA (Support Group) with the enhanced disability premium (£460 in total a month after deductions), housing benefit covering my rent (roughly £400pcm) and council tax relief. I have not claimed PiP.
I need advice with moving forward and have struggled to find this online. What information I have gleaned is generally out of date.
I am considering going back to work but this triggers a great deal of anxiety after so many jobs have gone 'wrong' when my mental health has faltered.
I was initially looking at undertaking some voluntary work but have been advised this would trigger an immediate reassessment from the DWP - I am unsure if this is correct.
I am also unclear on how paid 'permitted work' applies. Surely the DWP view will be if I'm well enough to do a few hours I'm well enough to work full stop? I'm terrified of Jobseekers Allowance and it's associated stresses. I'm miles from a Job Centre and afraid of the associated harassment and sanctions.
In a perfect world I would retrain but it does not seem that I could return to full time education while on ESA unless receiving PiP, and again I assume that being 'well' enough to return to education I would no longer qualify for ESA suport group.
I'm trying to understand how realistic undertaking 'permitted work' would be without ending up in an even more difficult position. I would be unable to survive without my current income and will be vulnerable returning to work as my ability to cope with this stress is untested.
If I was to obtain, for example, a minimum wage job working eight to sixteen hours a week would I end up 'worse off' and unable to 'go back' if I prove unable to manage it? It appears to me that there is no real benefit to voluntary work over paid work, especially with the £131 allowance which would allow me to consider running a vehicle again (I'm somewhat isolated without).
I just can't get my head round this.
I currently receive ESA (Support Group) with the enhanced disability premium (£460 in total a month after deductions), housing benefit covering my rent (roughly £400pcm) and council tax relief. I have not claimed PiP.
I need advice with moving forward and have struggled to find this online. What information I have gleaned is generally out of date.
I am considering going back to work but this triggers a great deal of anxiety after so many jobs have gone 'wrong' when my mental health has faltered.
I was initially looking at undertaking some voluntary work but have been advised this would trigger an immediate reassessment from the DWP - I am unsure if this is correct.
I am also unclear on how paid 'permitted work' applies. Surely the DWP view will be if I'm well enough to do a few hours I'm well enough to work full stop? I'm terrified of Jobseekers Allowance and it's associated stresses. I'm miles from a Job Centre and afraid of the associated harassment and sanctions.
In a perfect world I would retrain but it does not seem that I could return to full time education while on ESA unless receiving PiP, and again I assume that being 'well' enough to return to education I would no longer qualify for ESA suport group.
I'm trying to understand how realistic undertaking 'permitted work' would be without ending up in an even more difficult position. I would be unable to survive without my current income and will be vulnerable returning to work as my ability to cope with this stress is untested.
If I was to obtain, for example, a minimum wage job working eight to sixteen hours a week would I end up 'worse off' and unable to 'go back' if I prove unable to manage it? It appears to me that there is no real benefit to voluntary work over paid work, especially with the £131 allowance which would allow me to consider running a vehicle again (I'm somewhat isolated without).
I just can't get my head round this.
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5 years 2 months ago #244478 by Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Replied by Gordon on topic ESA & Permitted work - very confused
acrimoniousone
Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is
Welcome to Benefits and Work
There is a guide to Permitted Work in the ESA section.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa1
Starting Voluntary or Permitted Work should not result in a reassessment but your doing the work will be considered the next time that you are assessed.
The primary issues that you need to deal with are;
- whether your doing the work contradicts the reason that you were awarded ESA in the first place, for example; if you qualified under the Substantial Risk rules then working may well be an issue?
- is your doing this work indicative of an improvement in your conditions that you are required to notify the DWP about?
Gordon
Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is
Welcome to Benefits and Work
There is a guide to Permitted Work in the ESA section.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa1
Starting Voluntary or Permitted Work should not result in a reassessment but your doing the work will be considered the next time that you are assessed.
The primary issues that you need to deal with are;
- whether your doing the work contradicts the reason that you were awarded ESA in the first place, for example; if you qualified under the Substantial Risk rules then working may well be an issue?
- is your doing this work indicative of an improvement in your conditions that you are required to notify the DWP about?
Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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