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5 years 1 month ago #245273 by BIS
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Hi Shazier
Don't waste time trying to compare your assessment with your daughter's. The assessors have a range of questions and tests available and what people are asked will vary depending on the claimant's medical condition/s, what they've written on their form, what medical evidence has been sent in, what they say at an assessment and on the assessor themselves.
If your daughter wants to put in for a mandatory reconsideration then she needs to ring the DWP within a month of the date on the decision later and request one and then follow up with a letter in writing.
If your daughter wants to challenge the report, then she may need her friend to write a sighed letter laying what happened during the assessment, especially if you're contradicting things like eye contact.
You are misunderstanding how the assessment services interpret the word 'motivated.' If you daughter gets your daughter to school, then she is 'motivated' to do so (however bad she feels) or she might be like some parents and keep her daughter at home and there would be a record of frequent absences). It doesn't mean that she is not depressed, or ill, it just means she has the capacity to get her daughter there. This is a hard one to argue against because she has said she does it (and they seem to think she said, she does it the majority of the time). Now if there are issues over how long it takes her to get ready, does she ever arrive late, does she not go at all, and how many times does her friend take your daughter, then that needs to be clearly explained.
The report says that being discharged shows a level of stability. Unfortunately, your daughter's CPN seems to endorse this and if you want to counteract it, you need to get a letter from the CPN or the psychiatrist. I would also argue she needs help in order to show stability and the help may come from family and not just professionals.
There is always an issue for people who drive, both physically and mentally. The DWP say that it shows good cognitive awareness to be able to drive a car (and if a person has not got that they are a danger on the roads) and driving also takes a lot of physical strength. You may need to argue here about having an autistic child, that your daughter has no choice but to drive.
There are issues in the report about your daughter's physical capability. Without seeing your daughter's application and only going on what you have said here, it may be that she made light of them herself or did not talk about the impact they have on her and this has been to her detriment. You say you don't know what evidence she sent in - so it may not be entirely down to a poor assessor.
Here are some of the abbreviations that puzzled you:
MSO = Medical Services Observations
HOC = History of Conditions
FH = Functional History
IO = Informal Observations
SOH - Social and Occupational History
BIS
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Don't waste time trying to compare your assessment with your daughter's. The assessors have a range of questions and tests available and what people are asked will vary depending on the claimant's medical condition/s, what they've written on their form, what medical evidence has been sent in, what they say at an assessment and on the assessor themselves.
If your daughter wants to put in for a mandatory reconsideration then she needs to ring the DWP within a month of the date on the decision later and request one and then follow up with a letter in writing.
If your daughter wants to challenge the report, then she may need her friend to write a sighed letter laying what happened during the assessment, especially if you're contradicting things like eye contact.
You are misunderstanding how the assessment services interpret the word 'motivated.' If you daughter gets your daughter to school, then she is 'motivated' to do so (however bad she feels) or she might be like some parents and keep her daughter at home and there would be a record of frequent absences). It doesn't mean that she is not depressed, or ill, it just means she has the capacity to get her daughter there. This is a hard one to argue against because she has said she does it (and they seem to think she said, she does it the majority of the time). Now if there are issues over how long it takes her to get ready, does she ever arrive late, does she not go at all, and how many times does her friend take your daughter, then that needs to be clearly explained.
The report says that being discharged shows a level of stability. Unfortunately, your daughter's CPN seems to endorse this and if you want to counteract it, you need to get a letter from the CPN or the psychiatrist. I would also argue she needs help in order to show stability and the help may come from family and not just professionals.
There is always an issue for people who drive, both physically and mentally. The DWP say that it shows good cognitive awareness to be able to drive a car (and if a person has not got that they are a danger on the roads) and driving also takes a lot of physical strength. You may need to argue here about having an autistic child, that your daughter has no choice but to drive.
There are issues in the report about your daughter's physical capability. Without seeing your daughter's application and only going on what you have said here, it may be that she made light of them herself or did not talk about the impact they have on her and this has been to her detriment. You say you don't know what evidence she sent in - so it may not be entirely down to a poor assessor.
Here are some of the abbreviations that puzzled you:
MSO = Medical Services Observations
HOC = History of Conditions
FH = Functional History
IO = Informal Observations
SOH - Social and Occupational History
BIS
.
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5 years 1 month ago #245281 by Shazier
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Hi thank you so much for your advise. I can see where your coming from.
she has been called into the school on numerous occasions re her daughter being very late in the morning, this was disrupting the class. She has asked disabilty beuro to help with her MR but they cant get her in at the moment they are so busy, they advised her to get an extention. she rung the dwp and asked for an extention today but was told to ring when her date for mr was up. she had her decision letter on the 15feb so i think she has upto the 15 march.
The only new evidence she sent in with her renewal was her mri scan result..She was advised not to send anything eles in by the disability beuro. I struggle with my own mental and physical health so i was struggling to advise her on the best thing to do. I have been a member of the benefits and work for quite some time and have always found the advice valuable. Im out of my debth with this. I have printed out your advice for her so she can pass the information on to family and friends that help towards her care. I have advised them to write a testimonial letter for her. i feel this is all i can do really.
thank you again for your sound adivse.
she has been called into the school on numerous occasions re her daughter being very late in the morning, this was disrupting the class. She has asked disabilty beuro to help with her MR but they cant get her in at the moment they are so busy, they advised her to get an extention. she rung the dwp and asked for an extention today but was told to ring when her date for mr was up. she had her decision letter on the 15feb so i think she has upto the 15 march.
The only new evidence she sent in with her renewal was her mri scan result..She was advised not to send anything eles in by the disability beuro. I struggle with my own mental and physical health so i was struggling to advise her on the best thing to do. I have been a member of the benefits and work for quite some time and have always found the advice valuable. Im out of my debth with this. I have printed out your advice for her so she can pass the information on to family and friends that help towards her care. I have advised them to write a testimonial letter for her. i feel this is all i can do really.
thank you again for your sound adivse.
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