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5 years 1 month ago #245347 by terdun9
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Hi everyone well the letter has arrived today with a reduction because of Mobility has changed they say.
I would like to ask this physical Mobility and Mental Mobility is there such a huge void of difference this is the point I want ti make with the DWP....
And I have also got a medical report from the DWP Person who carried out a 40-minute chat with David with the view of saying if they think he can get PIPS or not.
The only thing we feel was not believed that clearly
D ***** has these mini-crisis when out, ie if a route has to be changed due to diversion of some sort so, has to park up and rethink what his next move is to be is often overwhelming and gives him psychological distress.
And that he can not go on public transport because of his personal space is so small and really can`t stand being touched, again overwhelming and gives him psychological distress. D****** did to the person carrying out this chat that he can`t stand within a tin can and be trapped with people who are too loud and close to being but unfortunately the person just laugh, thought D****** was being funny.
And that he does have to go shopping in the small hours of the morning so there are not many people around, and them the noises of the staff banging and crashing around the cages in the isles. overwhelming and gives him psychological distress so he has to leave and go home.
Surely this comes under restricting his mobility activities due to mental health distress it becomes so overwhelming he just has to go home or come here to his safe house depending on where he is the nearest to. I really don`t understand this is the same thing surely
Can anyone help me out here am I being over the top of not here or is my point right
I would like to ask this physical Mobility and Mental Mobility is there such a huge void of difference this is the point I want ti make with the DWP....
And I have also got a medical report from the DWP Person who carried out a 40-minute chat with David with the view of saying if they think he can get PIPS or not.
The only thing we feel was not believed that clearly
D ***** has these mini-crisis when out, ie if a route has to be changed due to diversion of some sort so, has to park up and rethink what his next move is to be is often overwhelming and gives him psychological distress.
And that he can not go on public transport because of his personal space is so small and really can`t stand being touched, again overwhelming and gives him psychological distress. D****** did to the person carrying out this chat that he can`t stand within a tin can and be trapped with people who are too loud and close to being but unfortunately the person just laugh, thought D****** was being funny.
And that he does have to go shopping in the small hours of the morning so there are not many people around, and them the noises of the staff banging and crashing around the cages in the isles. overwhelming and gives him psychological distress so he has to leave and go home.
Surely this comes under restricting his mobility activities due to mental health distress it becomes so overwhelming he just has to go home or come here to his safe house depending on where he is the nearest to. I really don`t understand this is the same thing surely
Can anyone help me out here am I being over the top of not here or is my point right
To Much Pain Will Kill Y ou In The End
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5 years 1 month ago #245349 by BIS
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Hi Jacqui
When he is out in the car - how often do the mini-crisis happen? I mean realistically how often is there a change in route? You say he suffers overwhelming psychological distress - what are the symptoms of this? How long would he have to pull over for?
If he is capable of planning what to do instead - they are going to try and argue that what he experiences is not overwhelming. I would also avoid using the word 'mini' - straight away, it sounds as if it is not very important.
Does he need any prompting to take any journeys? If he doesn't then he is going to struggle to score points. Does he need someone in the car with him? It doesn't sound as if he does, but perhaps that is just because you haven't said.
D does not use public transport, because he doesn't like to be touched, and the sounds and would cause him OCD. However, the DWP will argue this is not an issue, because he uses a car.
If he is overwhelmed on the majority of times when using a car (which he needs to be, for them to take any notice of it) they will then also question whether he is safe to drive a car. The DWP have recently used threatening language in letters to a couple of members on the forum saying they were going to inform the DLA that the claimant should not be driving.
I understand your argument about shopping in the middle of the night, but they are going to argue, he does this to keep himself safe and he manages it very adequately. However, if he only is able to go at night and never does it during the day, you should point out that this is not normal. (They are supposed to take account of this)
You say he has to leave the shop because he finds it unbearable. Does this mean he sometimes does not have enough food to eat, because he has to leave early? You have to tell the whole story and expect them to argue back against what you are saying.
This is not just about D. The DWP, often unfairly has an issue of people driving cars, because of the mental and physical capacity they need to be able to do it.
This is what the guidelines for assessors says about ovehwhelming psychological distress.
"OPD means distress related to a mental health condition or intellectual or
cognitive impairment resulting in a severe anxiety state in which the symptoms
are so severe that the person cannot undertake a journey without being
overwhelmed. The threshold is a very high one - a claimant who, without
prompting, would be left feeling anxious, worried or emotional does not meet it. "
You haven't said which of the criteria was downgraded, but you clearly need to counteract what they say.
BIS
When he is out in the car - how often do the mini-crisis happen? I mean realistically how often is there a change in route? You say he suffers overwhelming psychological distress - what are the symptoms of this? How long would he have to pull over for?
If he is capable of planning what to do instead - they are going to try and argue that what he experiences is not overwhelming. I would also avoid using the word 'mini' - straight away, it sounds as if it is not very important.
Does he need any prompting to take any journeys? If he doesn't then he is going to struggle to score points. Does he need someone in the car with him? It doesn't sound as if he does, but perhaps that is just because you haven't said.
D does not use public transport, because he doesn't like to be touched, and the sounds and would cause him OCD. However, the DWP will argue this is not an issue, because he uses a car.
If he is overwhelmed on the majority of times when using a car (which he needs to be, for them to take any notice of it) they will then also question whether he is safe to drive a car. The DWP have recently used threatening language in letters to a couple of members on the forum saying they were going to inform the DLA that the claimant should not be driving.
I understand your argument about shopping in the middle of the night, but they are going to argue, he does this to keep himself safe and he manages it very adequately. However, if he only is able to go at night and never does it during the day, you should point out that this is not normal. (They are supposed to take account of this)
You say he has to leave the shop because he finds it unbearable. Does this mean he sometimes does not have enough food to eat, because he has to leave early? You have to tell the whole story and expect them to argue back against what you are saying.
This is not just about D. The DWP, often unfairly has an issue of people driving cars, because of the mental and physical capacity they need to be able to do it.
This is what the guidelines for assessors says about ovehwhelming psychological distress.
"OPD means distress related to a mental health condition or intellectual or
cognitive impairment resulting in a severe anxiety state in which the symptoms
are so severe that the person cannot undertake a journey without being
overwhelmed. The threshold is a very high one - a claimant who, without
prompting, would be left feeling anxious, worried or emotional does not meet it. "
You haven't said which of the criteria was downgraded, but you clearly need to counteract what they say.
BIS
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