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5 years 1 month ago #245845 by Francisca
I've received my DLA to PIP decision and am writing to request a mandatory reconsideration on the mobility section. I have been in receipt of Higher Rate Mobility DLA for about 25 years and have been given standard PIP. Should I mention the DLA rate - might it help? Should they have taken it into account or do they not refer to your DLA rates? Any downside to mentioning it?


For the record, and your information, it doesn't appear that the decision maker even looked at my form - doesn't even mention it. Additionally, because I didn't LOOK ill or stressed or anxious or appear to be in pain in my face-to-face and have a driving licence, I'm apparently fine. Also, the decision maker refers to the GP report yet my GP surgery have no record of it!! Can't really fault the face-to-face assessor who was an Occupational Therapist who wrote down pretty everything I said (whilst stressed out) but the rest is a farce.

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5 years 1 month ago #245846 by Gordon
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Toadlet

Yes, you should refer back to your previous DLA award but be aware, the PIP criteria is different from DLA and more strict, so whilst it is reasonable to argue that a Standard award of PIP Mobility should be made as there is some equivalence between DLA and PIP at this level, an Enhanced award will require you to show that your ability to reliably stand and move (walk) is more restricted than previously assessed.

Gordon

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5 years 1 month ago #245851 by Francisca
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Thank you for the reply, Gordon. The problem is I have M.E. (along with other things) and I always give full details in my forms of all the 'hidden' crippling fatigue, pain, feeling horrendously ill etc., but how can one show this? They're just not things one can prove. The fact is that I'm completely reliant on my husband (and car) to go anywhere above a one mile drive to the P.O. occasionally. No shops here and they are 15 miles away. Not a chance. It's a very bad way of assessing anyone.

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5 years 1 month ago #245852 by dexyblue
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I am in the same situation, I was given dla mobility higher rate for life in 1993....27 years ago and now I have been given standard pip. I sent a MR off the end of December. I rang them on 24th Jan and it hadn't been put on the system, she did it whilst I was on the phone but to date I have not heard anything

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5 years 1 month ago #245853 by Gary
Hi Sue

The way DLA was awarded is different from how PIP is.

PIP was engineered to be a more difficult to award than DLA, many DLA claimants will receive vastly reduced awards or even no award at all on transfer.

DLA looks at generic care needs in regard to bodily functions, PIP looks at the claimants specific ability to carry out an activity such as eating. DLA was awarded because the claimant needed an amount of care (in time) during the day, the night of both, to help them with that bodily function. PIP looks at the claimant's ability to complete specific tasks within the activity and is points-based, these are clearly defined and it is easy not to score points because the claimant has not shown that they meet those specific criteria.

DLA treated the use of aids as a reason to reduce the amount of care needed, PIP treats aids as an indication of disability and in general they score extra points.

DLA's care need was reasonably generic, PIP treats prompting, assistance and supervision as different activities and as a result, they can score different points.

DLA required that the care was required for the majority of the time, for PIP it is the majority of days.

For PIP activities must be completed reliably, this means

• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.

Although DLA considers these terms, they are poorly defined as they are implemented through Case Law rather than being defined in the legislation as they are for PIP.

Referring to any more recent evidence you have is more useful.

Gary

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5 years 1 month ago #245888 by Francisca
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For me, the biggest issue is loss of my parking disc, followed by that of the free car tax. I wish they'd at least let us keep those! If we can't park, I can't get to appointments etc if I need to. I'll need to look into the current rules on this.

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