- Posts: 49
× Members
ESA change to 'new style'
- angel*1
- Topic Author
- Offline
Less More
1 day 4 hours ago #305785 by angel*1
ESA change to 'new style' was created by angel*1
I came to the b&w site today to query a similar issue.
I was migrated onto UC in February this year. The only means tested benefit I was receiving was housing benefit, so that is what I applied for. All my other benefits are not means tested, including Contribution Based ESA.
I have just been informed by Universal Credit to check my payment. It was much more than usual. I thought they had made an error. All of the calculations have changed significantly since I first applied a few months ago. It is clear to me that they have shifted me onto a means -tested ESA because that’s what Universal Credit is -everything is means tested.
I want to challenge this as it was not part of my original claim and without telling me, they have completely changed my Universal Credit claim. The deduction section is the entirety of my CB ESA. My transitional protection is reduced.
Can I appeal this?
Thanks.
I was migrated onto UC in February this year. The only means tested benefit I was receiving was housing benefit, so that is what I applied for. All my other benefits are not means tested, including Contribution Based ESA.
I have just been informed by Universal Credit to check my payment. It was much more than usual. I thought they had made an error. All of the calculations have changed significantly since I first applied a few months ago. It is clear to me that they have shifted me onto a means -tested ESA because that’s what Universal Credit is -everything is means tested.
I want to challenge this as it was not part of my original claim and without telling me, they have completely changed my Universal Credit claim. The deduction section is the entirety of my CB ESA. My transitional protection is reduced.
Can I appeal this?
Thanks.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- David
- Away
Less More
- Posts: 2476
1 day 1 hour ago #305808 by David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Replied by David on topic ESA change to 'new style'
Hi angel*1
Housing Benefit has been replaced with Universal Credit. You can only get help with your rent through Universal Credit ( unless living in sheltered/supported accomodation )
David
Housing Benefit has been replaced with Universal Credit. You can only get help with your rent through Universal Credit ( unless living in sheltered/supported accomodation )
David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- angel*1
- Topic Author
- Offline
Less More
- Posts: 49
5 hours 33 minutes ago #305844 by angel*1
Replied by angel*1 on topic ESA change to 'new style'
Yes, I am aware regarding Housing Benefit.
I am querying whether I can challenge them changing my CB ESA to their new style ESA, which is much reduced to my original payment.
I’m also not sure if I get the SDP or the disability guarantee with this new ESA. I have no details at all and I’ve asked for them to send me something in writing.
I’ve tried to get a hold of Citizens advice, but I’ve been unable to get through.
I’ve done the calculations: compared with what I was getting before they changed my ESA to “new” ESA, I am now getting £40 less per month.
Thanks. Any input welcome.
I am querying whether I can challenge them changing my CB ESA to their new style ESA, which is much reduced to my original payment.
I’m also not sure if I get the SDP or the disability guarantee with this new ESA. I have no details at all and I’ve asked for them to send me something in writing.
I’ve tried to get a hold of Citizens advice, but I’ve been unable to get through.
I’ve done the calculations: compared with what I was getting before they changed my ESA to “new” ESA, I am now getting £40 less per month.
Thanks. Any input welcome.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- David
- Away
Less More
- Posts: 2476
5 hours 27 minutes ago #305845 by David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Replied by David on topic ESA change to 'new style'
Hi angel*1
Contributions Based ESA and New Style ESA are basically the same thing and pay exactly the same amount. So your reduction won't have anything to do with NS ESA. You need to investigate elsewhere.
David
Contributions Based ESA and New Style ESA are basically the same thing and pay exactly the same amount. So your reduction won't have anything to do with NS ESA. You need to investigate elsewhere.
David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- angel*1
- Topic Author
- Offline
Less More
- Posts: 49
3 hours 53 minutes ago #305849 by angel*1
Replied by angel*1 on topic ESA change to 'new style'
Thank you for replying.
New ESA (LCWRA): £423.27
CB ESA (LCWRA): £609.05
Not sure how one can conclude they are the same amount.
Of course, with my ESA being pushed onto UC, I now receive a Standard Allowance.
They’ve said that my income has increased, and therefore my transitional protection has decreased. The increase is down to the April income increase on benefits due to inflation.
It’s not really an increase though, is it? Because they take that away from you straight away via transitional protection. ??
I’m starting to feel like I’m in a Kafkaesque novel of ever decreasing circles that lead back to the beginning.
New ESA (LCWRA): £423.27
CB ESA (LCWRA): £609.05
Not sure how one can conclude they are the same amount.
Of course, with my ESA being pushed onto UC, I now receive a Standard Allowance.
They’ve said that my income has increased, and therefore my transitional protection has decreased. The increase is down to the April income increase on benefits due to inflation.
It’s not really an increase though, is it? Because they take that away from you straight away via transitional protection. ??
I’m starting to feel like I’m in a Kafkaesque novel of ever decreasing circles that lead back to the beginning.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- David
- Away
Less More
- Posts: 2476
3 hours 18 minutes ago #305851 by David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Replied by David on topic ESA change to 'new style'
Hi angel*1
New Style ESA is also £609.50. See below the advice from Disability Rights UK---
"How much is 'new style' ESA?
'New style' ESA is a flat-rate benefit. It is not affected by any savings or other income you have, except for occupational or personal pensions. Unless you are put in the support group, payment of 'new style' ESA is limited to 12 months.
The rates given below apply from 7 April 2025.
For the first 13 weeks of your claim, the ‘assessment phase’, you are paid the basic allowance. This depends on your age:
Assessment phase (per week)
Aged under 25 years - £72.90
Aged 25 years and over - £92.05
Once you have undergone the work capability assessment and have been found to have a limited capability for work, you will move onto ‘main phase’ ESA. With this, you will get the basic allowance, plus a ‘support component’ if you are put in the support group
Main phase (per week)
Basic allowance - £92.05
Support component - £48.50
If you get an occupational or personal pension that pays more than £85 a week, your 'new style' ESA will be reduced by half of the amount over this limit."
www.disabilityrightsuk.org/resources/new...nd-support-allowance
David
New Style ESA is also £609.50. See below the advice from Disability Rights UK---
"How much is 'new style' ESA?
'New style' ESA is a flat-rate benefit. It is not affected by any savings or other income you have, except for occupational or personal pensions. Unless you are put in the support group, payment of 'new style' ESA is limited to 12 months.
The rates given below apply from 7 April 2025.
For the first 13 weeks of your claim, the ‘assessment phase’, you are paid the basic allowance. This depends on your age:
Assessment phase (per week)
Aged under 25 years - £72.90
Aged 25 years and over - £92.05
Once you have undergone the work capability assessment and have been found to have a limited capability for work, you will move onto ‘main phase’ ESA. With this, you will get the basic allowance, plus a ‘support component’ if you are put in the support group
Main phase (per week)
Basic allowance - £92.05
Support component - £48.50
If you get an occupational or personal pension that pays more than £85 a week, your 'new style' ESA will be reduced by half of the amount over this limit."
www.disabilityrightsuk.org/resources/new...nd-support-allowance
David
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
The following user(s) said Thank You: angel*1
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Moderators: Gordon, latetrain, BIS, Catherine, Wendy, Kelly, greekqueen, peter, Katherine, Super User, Chris, David