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- denise
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I have written on here before about this subject but i have written to my mp because it has bugged me for months. i want to get to some answers that i will understand about this pip. when it comes in i will be 62 years old and retired legally with a state pension. dwp are trying to say that they are testing 16 to 64 years old people, but i will not be of working age as i would have already retired legally, so i am not of working age, so therefore i think they mean its the people born after 1953 as they will not retire until they are 65 years old. I think that their statements are very confusing. When they finished the reassessment in 2016 I will be 65 so what is the point of assessing me?iv been told ian duncan smith will be writing to me and then i will find out what is going on .
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I am afraid that you are taking the phrase "working age" too literally.hi everyone
I have written on here before about this subject but i have written to my mp because it has bugged me for months. i want to get to some answers that i will understand about this pip. when it comes in i will be 62 years old and retired legally with a state pension. dwp are trying to say that they are testing 16 to 64 years old people, but i will not be of working age as i would have already retired legally, so i am not of working age, so therefore i think they mean its the people born after 1953 as they will not retire until they are 65 years old. I think that their statements are very confusing. When they finished the reassessment in 2016 I will be 65 so what is the point of assessing me?iv been told ian duncan smith will be writing to me and then i will find out what is going on .
The government have stated that they will be transferring DLA claimants over the age of 16 and under the age of 64, this is the sole criteria for transfer, if you will be 62 then you meet the criteria to be transferred.
The phrase "working age" is a convenient way of describing the majority of claimants who meet the age criteria, however, it does not define who will be transferred.
The age range, matches the current age range for an adult to make a new claim for DLA.
I'll be interested to hear what IDS says, but I do not think your argument will exclude you from the transfer. Also, the government has not yet made any decision as to whether they will tranfer the over 65s to PIP, this may still happen after 2016.
Gordon
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- Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
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The DWP updated FAQ on PIP states :Also, the government has not yet made any decision as to whether they will transfer the over 65s to PIP, this may still happen after 2016.
I am a pensioner and get DLA, will these changes affect me?
Only working age DLA claimants who are over the age of 16 and under the age of 65 on the 8 April 2013 will be asked if they would like to claim the new benefit.
Because we will not begin to ask DLA claimants whether they want to claim Personal Independence Payment until after Personal Independence Payment is introduced for new claims in April 2013, a small number will be over 65 when we contact them.
If you get DLA and are aged 65 or over on the day Personal Independence Payment is introduced you will not need to claim Personal Independence Payment and will be able to keep your benefit beyond the age of 65 so long as you continue to satisfy the qualifying conditions. We want to see how the assessment for the new benefit works for people of working age before deciding if Personal Independence Payment should be extended to people over 65.
Therefore, in my opinion, any suggestion that those over 65 years of age already in receipt of DLA could be transferred to PIP after 2016 is at this point in time speculative, i.e. not based on fact or investigation.
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I think you may have missed the following.
Extract from the PIP Frequently Asked Questions.
13.I am a pensioner and get DLA, will these changes affect me?
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• We want to see how the assessment for the new benefit works for people of working age before deciding if Personal Independence Payment should be extended to people over 65.
Gordon
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- Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
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No it's included in my post. in the last paragraph in bold.
It is likely to take years to complete the assessment of those of working age, so it will take a lot longer before this government decides if those over 65 years will ever be transferred to PIP.
Before DLA was introduced, we had two separate benefits, Mobility Allowance and Attendance Allowance and it was many years before those in receipt of MobA and AA were transferred to DLA. I seem to remember it took about 5 years for me to be transferred.
I was careful in my reply to state 'in my opinion', so as not to appear as if I was totally disagreeing with you or other moderators comments. It's not uncommon for benefits advisers to have different opinions, especially in 'grey areas'
My opinion may prove to be totally wrong and if that proves to be the case, then I'll happily admit my opinion was wrong if/when the Government tell us that those over 65 years of age and in receipt of DLA of will have to claim PIP instead.
Jim
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