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12 years 3 weeks ago - 12 years 3 weeks ago #104638 by Daisy
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Helllo,
I am a new subscriber and have been working through your very insightful guides to help me move from IB to ESA.
I am in the process of completing the claim form for ESA and my query is this:
- Is it advisable to include hosp appointment letters with claim form?
Since I have been attending hospital for nearly 20 years due to an accident I don't actually have many of them.
- I intend to include letters from two consultants that confirm what my medical conditions are following appointments with them, both dated within the last six months.
These are addressed to my GP (and me, and each other!!). I hope these will be ok.
I welcome your comments and thank you.
I am a new subscriber and have been working through your very insightful guides to help me move from IB to ESA.
I am in the process of completing the claim form for ESA and my query is this:
- Is it advisable to include hosp appointment letters with claim form?
Since I have been attending hospital for nearly 20 years due to an accident I don't actually have many of them.
- I intend to include letters from two consultants that confirm what my medical conditions are following appointments with them, both dated within the last six months.
These are addressed to my GP (and me, and each other!!). I hope these will be ok.
I welcome your comments and thank you.
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12 years 3 weeks ago #104647 by Gordon
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Daisy
There is no harm in you including them but I would not rely on them to hold much sway with either an ATOS assessor or the DWP Decision Maker, at best they suggest a general level of disability rather than proving one and ultimately it is your ability to meet the ESA Descriptor which will decide your claim.
Gordon
There is no harm in you including them but I would not rely on them to hold much sway with either an ATOS assessor or the DWP Decision Maker, at best they suggest a general level of disability rather than proving one and ultimately it is your ability to meet the ESA Descriptor which will decide your claim.
Gordon
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12 years 3 weeks ago #104695 by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
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Replied by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law) on topic Hosp appointment letters
Different moderators will have different opinions about the weight attached to medical reports from GP's and Consultants.
In reaching decisions on claims, Decision Makers are duty bound to consider medical evidence from all sources including those from GP's and Consultants in addition to those provided by Health Care Professionals employed by ATOS, a failure to do so would breach the rules of natural justice, i.e 'fair play at work'
I'm a former Social Security Tribunal Member, and from my experience, a Tribunal would consider medical evidence from a Consultant specialising in the claimants condition to be more relevant and credible than that of an ATOS Health Care Professional, who may not be a doctor, but could be a nurse, physiotherapist or occupational therapist who has never seen the claimant before.
Hope this helps.
Jim
retired Welfare Rights Lawyer & former Social Security Tribunal Member.
In reaching decisions on claims, Decision Makers are duty bound to consider medical evidence from all sources including those from GP's and Consultants in addition to those provided by Health Care Professionals employed by ATOS, a failure to do so would breach the rules of natural justice, i.e 'fair play at work'
I'm a former Social Security Tribunal Member, and from my experience, a Tribunal would consider medical evidence from a Consultant specialising in the claimants condition to be more relevant and credible than that of an ATOS Health Care Professional, who may not be a doctor, but could be a nurse, physiotherapist or occupational therapist who has never seen the claimant before.
Hope this helps.
Jim
retired Welfare Rights Lawyer & former Social Security Tribunal Member.
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12 years 3 weeks ago #104696 by Gordon
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Jim
I would undoubtedly agree with you if we were talking about medical reports and letters, but the OP has asked a question about hospital appointment letters!
Gordon
I would undoubtedly agree with you if we were talking about medical reports and letters, but the OP has asked a question about hospital appointment letters!
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12 years 3 weeks ago #104738 by Fawlty
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As Jim said different moderators/people have different views.
Whilst waiting to see if I was going to have to go to tribunal I used the site for information but also contacted a number of disability charities and also a firm that specialises in ESA/DLA from start to finish.
A majority of them said it was good to have a paper trail, while appointment cards and hospital letters in themselves held no value as such as Gordon said I was told it does provide a clear pattern of the illness/disability you are suffering from that may be over a number of years or months and that you have been receiving on going treatment/appointments.
But like Jim said everyone has a different point of view on what should be sent.
Whilst waiting to see if I was going to have to go to tribunal I used the site for information but also contacted a number of disability charities and also a firm that specialises in ESA/DLA from start to finish.
A majority of them said it was good to have a paper trail, while appointment cards and hospital letters in themselves held no value as such as Gordon said I was told it does provide a clear pattern of the illness/disability you are suffering from that may be over a number of years or months and that you have been receiving on going treatment/appointments.
But like Jim said everyone has a different point of view on what should be sent.
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12 years 3 weeks ago #104748 by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
Patients should also receive a copy of the letter sent to their GP. However, from personal experience this doesn't always happen.
The solution to this is if seen by a Consultant at an out-patient clinic, tell the Consultant you want a copy of any letter(s) they send to your GP. You have a right to this information under the Data Protection Act 1998.
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Replied by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law) on topic Hosp appointment letters
Hi Gordon, as a regular attendant as an hospital out-patient, Consultants must send out a copy to GP's outlining their patient's condition(s) including any improvement, or worsening of their condition.Gordon wrote: Jim
I would undoubtedly agree with you if we were talking about medical reports and letters, but the OP has asked a question about hospital appointment letters!
Gordon
Patients should also receive a copy of the letter sent to their GP. However, from personal experience this doesn't always happen.
The solution to this is if seen by a Consultant at an out-patient clinic, tell the Consultant you want a copy of any letter(s) they send to your GP. You have a right to this information under the Data Protection Act 1998.
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