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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #104910 by gazzmg
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if your on esa wrag and go onto the work programme what sort of help do you get?
If you dont want to get a job because of your illness/disability can you remain in the wrag but still do courses in wrag group
If you dont want to get a job because of your illness/disability can you remain in the wrag but still do courses in wrag group
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I think it depends on how likely the Work Programme provider thinks you are to be placed in long term employment, I am sorry If that seems cynical, but that is how they make their money.
First of all, while you remain in the WRAG you are not required work or even to seek work so you should not feel pressured in to doing so unless you are ready and there may me alternative or intermediate steps such as volunteering and Permitted Work that might suit you better.
Once you are on the WP then you participation becomes mandatory and you can be sanctioned for failing to meet your commitments, whilst these are appealable and any action plan should take into account any limitations that you might have as a result of your condition(s), these sanctions can substantially reduce your benefit payments and take months to resolve.
The following FAQ has more details of the Work Programme and links to further information.
Work Programme
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gazzmg wrote: if your on esa wrag and go onto the work programme what sort of help do you get?
If you dont want to get a job because of your illness/disability can you remain in the wrag but still do courses in wrag group
I think it depends on how likely the Work Programme provider thinks you are to be placed in long term employment, I am sorry If that seems cynical, but that is how they make their money.
First of all, while you remain in the WRAG you are not required work or even to seek work so you should not feel pressured in to doing so unless you are ready and there may me alternative or intermediate steps such as volunteering and Permitted Work that might suit you better.
Once you are on the WP then you participation becomes mandatory and you can be sanctioned for failing to meet your commitments, whilst these are appealable and any action plan should take into account any limitations that you might have as a result of your condition(s), these sanctions can substantially reduce your benefit payments and take months to resolve.
The following FAQ has more details of the Work Programme and links to further information.
Work Programme
Gordon
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #104912 by gazzmg
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So does it depend on the personal advisor you see if they recommend you for work programme, i thought it was compulsory to go on the work programme when in wrag esa
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Hi gm,
It depends whether it is considered that you can go on to obtain employment for 6 months or more, as this dictates whether the WPP will get paid.
In plain language it depends whether there is any "Bounty" on your head.
They use the terminology "Parking" and "Creaming".
If there is no money to be made from you, they "Park" you. If they think that they can get you into employment for 6 months or more they will push you forward, ("Creaming")
Have a read of this :
www.parliament.uk/business/committees/co...ee/news/wk-prog-rpt/
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gazzmg wrote: So does it depend on the personal advisor you see if they recommend you for work programme, i thought it was compulsory to go on the work programme when in wrag esa
Hi gm,
It depends whether it is considered that you can go on to obtain employment for 6 months or more, as this dictates whether the WPP will get paid.
In plain language it depends whether there is any "Bounty" on your head.
They use the terminology "Parking" and "Creaming".
If there is no money to be made from you, they "Park" you. If they think that they can get you into employment for 6 months or more they will push you forward, ("Creaming")
Have a read of this :
www.parliament.uk/business/committees/co...ee/news/wk-prog-rpt/
bro58
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11 years 11 months ago #104914 by
Another recent article on the same issue :
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/20/w...-staff-struggle-jobs
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bro58 wrote:
gazzmg wrote: So does it depend on the personal advisor you see if they recommend you for work programme, i thought it was compulsory to go on the work programme when in wrag esa
Hi gm,
It depends whether it is considered that you can go on to obtain employment for 6 months or more, as this dictates whether the WPP will get paid.
In plain language it depends whether there is any "Bounty" on your head.
They use the terminology "Parking" and "Creaming".
If there is no money to be made from you, they "Park" you. If they think that they can get you into employment for 6 months or more they will push you forward, ("Creaming")
Have a read of this :
www.parliament.uk/business/committees/co...ee/news/wk-prog-rpt/
bro58
Another recent article on the same issue :
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/20/w...-staff-struggle-jobs
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11 years 11 months ago #104917 by gazzmg
Hi bro58
Its an interesting read thanks for that
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bro58 wrote:
gazzmg wrote: So does it depend on the personal advisor you see if they recommend you for work programme, i thought it was compulsory to go on the work programme when in wrag esa
They use the terminology "Parking" and "Creaming".
bro58
Hi bro58
Its an interesting read thanks for that
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