The DWP has launched an entirely bogus consultation on changes to personal independence payment (PIP) and universal credit (UC) by refusing to consult on almost everything that matters most to claimants.

The Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working Green Paper sets out proposed changes to PIP, including preventing anyone who does not score at least one 4 point or more descriptor from being eligible for the daily living component.

It also proposes to freeze the LCWRA (health) element of UC and abolish the WCA.

Non-consultation

Yet the list of things that the DWP is refusing to consult on, meaning there are no questions about them in the online consultation, includes:

  • Scrapping the WCA
  • Creating a single assessment for PIP and the UC health element
  • Freezing the health element of UC until 2029/30
  • Only awarding PIP daily living if you get at least one descriptor scoring 4 or more points
  • Restarting WCA reassessments until the WCA is scrapped

(You can find a full list of the issues the DWP will and won’t be consulting on at Annex A of the Green Paper).

Leading questions

Instead of asking for feedback on these vital issues, the consultation asks questions that make the assumption that participants accept that people should lose their PIP:

2. What support do you think we could provide for those who will lose their Personal Independence Payment entitlement as a result of a new additional requirement to score at least 4 points on one daily living activity?

3. How could we improve the experience of the health and care system for people who are claiming Personal Independence Payment who would lose entitlement?

Missing information

Vital information that would allow people to have an informed opinion even on questions like those above has been deliberately withheld from the Green Paper.

For example, the DWP knows precisely, or could make a very accurate estimate of, how many current claimants would lose their award on review if their condition remains unchanged and the new system is introduced.

It also knows what condition those claimants have: how many have physical conditions like arthritis, mental health conditions like anxiety and depression, neurodevelopmental issues like ASD or ADHD.

The DWP knows, but it’s not telling us.

Yet how can you properly answer questions like the ones above if you don’t know who is most likely to be affected?   

Benefits and Work has made a Freedom of Information request for these figures, but we suspect they will not be forthcoming.

The information may be included in the impact assessment due to be published on 26th March.

Otherwise, perhaps readers could ask their MPs or a friendly member of the House of Lords to ask for them?

Judicial review

In January of this year, the High Court found that a Conservative consultation on changes to the work capability assessment (WCA) was unlawful, meaning that the changes could not go ahead.

The judge held that the DWP had: failed to adequately explain the proposals; had failed to explain that the main purpose was to save money rather than to get claimants into work; had failed to provide sufficient time for the consultation.

At the time, many of us thought that this meant that the DWP under Labour would have to carry out an honest consultation on changes to PIP and UC.

Instead, the lesson that the DWP has learnt is not that it should be honest, but instead that it should just not consult on anything meaningful at all.

According to the House of Commons Library:

“In some cases, public bodies have a legal duty to carry out a consultation. There will be legal duty to consult where:

  • there is legislation which requires a consultation
  • a government department or public body has promised to consult
  • there is an established practice of consultation in similar cases
  • not consulting would lead to obvious unfairness (in exceptional cases)”

We would argue that there is a very definite ”established practice of consultation” in relation to major changes to disability and incapacity benefits and that the current exercise is an attempt to pass off a fake consultation as the real thing.

It was the Public Law Project which won the case against the DWP over the WCA consultation.  We very much hope that they will be able launch a similar judicial review over this Green Paper consultation.

Alternative consultation

In the meantime, we hope that a major charity or umbrella body with good standing amongst the public and MPs, such as the Disability Benefits Consortium, will launch an alternative consultation.

It doesn’t need to be long or complicated.  It just needs to ask the questions that the DWP is scared to ask, such as:

Do you agree that only people who score at least 4 points on one daily living activity should get an award of the PIP daily living component?

Do you agree that the WCA should be abolished and replaced with a single assessment for both PIP and the UC health element?

Whatever the results, they could be circulated to MPs and members of the House of Lords who wish to be properly informed before they vote on these issues.

However, time is very short.  The official consultation does not end until 30 June.  But because the DWP have chosen not to consult on major changes, such as the new PIP scoring system, they can introduce new legislation as soon as they wish.  They have stated that they intend to bring forward legislation in this session of parliament, which ends on 21 July, so it could be as early as May that we see the new provisions. 

This means that, even though the change to PIP scoring will not be put into effect until November 2026, the law enabling it could be firmly in place very much sooner.

Silencing voices

The Green paper consultation is so dishonest that we feel unable to recommend that people take part in the way we normally would, though we also know that the DWP may argue that lack of response means that most people do not object to the changes.

In the Green paper, the DWP claim that “We are committed to putting the views and voices of disabled people and people with health conditions at the heart of everything we do.”

In fact, this bogus consultation is entirely about silencing the voices of disabled people and people with health conditions.

The reality is that the DWP under Labour is proving to be even more dishonest and devious than it was under the Tories.

The Green Paper consultation is online here or you can read all the questions in the consultation here.

 You can try the proposed new PIP test here.

You can also:

keep up with what’s changing and when

find out what you can do if you are unhappy about Labour’s plans

follow the latest news about PIP and UC changes.

 

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    · 1 months ago
    I completed the green paper consultation, but I responded with answers that appertained to the questions that were not asked, in each box as well. 
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      · 23 days ago
      @Ellen Hi Ellen. I'm trying to do that too. I can't see any other way :(

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      · 1 months ago
      @Ellen Hehe nice one 
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    · 1 months ago
    How many of us are there that don't have the 4 points in one category but know we should yet have never questioned the points as it risked reassessment plus for many there would have been no going in doing so?
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      · 1 months ago
      @Neil Cook Thats what they want you to to do. It's what they are counting on. 
      You have to keep on at it else it's a win for them.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Andywaringuk There are several questions that I should have scored 4 points for but the assessor used her personal informal opinions. She said that what I said and her informed opinion don't match up! And this was on the subject of autism and adhd, things she admitted to having no professional experience of.
      She went on to say I had no cognitive impairments or learning disabilities, then at the end said I had severe cognitive impairment. 
      They're using personal opinions to reduce points on top of outright lies (one assessor said my daughter spoke for me, I was there alone. Another said I fed a stray cat that came in my garden daily.. I live in a 9th floor flat). 
      So I reckon there's millions of people who have had points reduced by assessors. 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Andywaringuk I don't get pip at all I applied about 3 to 4 yrs ago but heard nothing back even though I called about 5 or 6 times but was always holding for so long I rang off each time because I was getting extremely angry and it wouldn't be fair on the call centre worker on the other end to get a seriously annoyed person like myself as a result .
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      · 1 months ago
      @Andywaringuk Andywaringuk - Absolutely get where you're coming from there.
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    · 1 months ago
    Can someone possibly please explain to me what is happening to long term cb Esa (transferred from incapacity around 2019)?  Also does anyone know what is happening to the indefinite dla people?  I just don't understand a lot of what is changing and I'm really worried about it all.  Thanks. 
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      · 25 days ago
      @Tania There is old style esa too where people were transferred from incapacity benefit 2 types of esa old and new 
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      · 1 months ago
      @DJ I think (but don't quote me) contributory ESA was cut off at 1 year except for those in the support group.

      I think the plan is to cut it at 1 year for the support group/LCWRA (which they are aiming to get rid of too).
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      · 1 months ago
      @James Literally millions of Income protection, and Accident Sickness Unemployment insurance polices have been sold, to employed and self employed people, and they do pay out. 
      These policies are designed for people not able to work, they are not the same as critical illness policies which is what you seem to be referring to?


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      · 1 months ago
      @Haven Why would any working person bother to save up now? It's not worth it,you will be spending your own savings on your future disability? I also have savings but I went without to get them ,now I'm gunna lose them trying to cover my own disability because I'm set to lose cb esa, pip and my oh carers allowance!! 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Haven Hi Haven

       I am like you questioning this, initially contribution based ESA (Cb ESA) was NOT going to have to be migrated across to UC, I am the same as you when it transferred from Incapacity in 2019.  Harrowing wasn't it? I am unable to get a definitive answer from anywhere over how it stands now. Then I was informed that I would be Migrated across in or around 2018. Now with all of  the green paper proposals I just do NOT know what they are going to do. As you and I know what criteria we are in. At the present time I have tried and tried to get a definitive answer as to if or NOT our category is going to be moved over sooner now to UC and that is meeting with some odd answers wherever I try to source a definitive answer regarding the matter as if there are legacy benefits attached such as housing benefit or WCA. 

      Due to the green paper proposals wherever you try to get an answer regarding this everywhere is just too busy trying to STOP the green paper from becoming Law. Which is RIGHT as this is STILL going to affect us.

      If I get a definitive answer I WILL post it on here and I hope that if you get a definitive answer you can post it on here.
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    · 1 months ago
    How do those under regulation 29 and 32 come off now regulation 34 and 32 of the esa act amended the rule that covered  risk to self and injury to others 
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    · 1 months ago
    Daily Mail, which is known of having been spreading lies about benefits and stirring up hatred against benefit claimants is now writing:

    "Welfare reforms are all pain, no gain".


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    · 1 months ago
    So are you saying if you get esa support group contribution based this will stay as it is I have been on contribution base esa support group since 2017 I was changed over from incapacity benefit I was claiming that since 2000 I am also enhanced pip mobility but why stop esa support group when they say you have limited capability for work it don't make sense i don't affect savings but it is taxable it states on your award letter 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Anon Moving the goalposts is unfair to everyone. 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Not known I Don't think so,I've read that people affected can try for uc,then know we won't qualify, many of us have working partners or some savings,to move the goalposts us unfair to anyone who saved their money before becoming ill,I am personally affected myself by this
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    · 1 months ago
    In a world where cold winds blow,
    Labour’s cuts begin to show,
    Welfare slashed, and hopes grow thin,
    Another cycle set to spin.

    Foodbanks rise in desperate need,
    While many suffer, hearts concede.
    The warmth of kindness fades away,
    As pockets empty, day by day.

    Another Thatcher in disguise,
    Promising change but telling lies,
    The poor, the weak, the ones who fall,
    Left to struggle, one and all.

    The winter’s chill was hard to bear,
    When no support is in the air.
    Welfare cuts, a cruel refrain,
    Leaving many in despair and pain.

    In silence, voices rise to fight,
    For dignity, for human rights.
    But as the cold grows sharp and near,
    Will anyone dare to hear?


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    · 1 months ago
    I HOPE EVERYONE IS WRITING TO THEIR MP's, even if its not something that you would usually do because you.......cant be bothered.........!?!?

    Its not long after you become too sick to work, and enter the benefits system that you become scared, and realise that there is not much help out there, and youre kind of on youre own suddenly, a bit of a paraiah, ostracised and isolated................
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      · 21 days ago
      @ALL HANDS ON DECK I emailed my MP and he hasn’t  got back to me yet. HOWEVER he is Neil Duncan-Jordan for Labour who has spoken out strongly against his Party and is condemning the proposed changes. So at least he’s got a good excuse I guess…
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      · 1 months ago
      @ALL HANDS ON DECK Yeh, no. My MP is the amazing Reeves herself. She doesn't and never has cared about her constituents, I have emailed her more times than I can remember and have never once received a reply from her. It's always from some lack who tells me she very busy with parliamentary work, is grateful that I got in contact and my concerns will be looked at. 
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    · 1 months ago
    @Sarah, I've been trying to post this for hours and I think PB has probably covered it now, but anyway - in answer to your query below:

    IF the changes become law, your award will be reassessed under the new rules IF your reassessment happens AFTER the new rules come into place, which MIGHT be from November 2026. You will not just be 'kicked off PIP in November 2026' without a reassessment.

    IF the new rules are in place when you are reassessed you will have to justify at least 4 points awarded in one daily living descriptor, plus at least another 4 or more points spread over the other daily living descriptors to maintain your standard daily living award.

    The mobility element is so far not to be affected by new rules, but, of course, you will still need to qualify at reassessment.

    I agree with PB the process would be swamped and I wonder, therefore, whether the changes will be seen to be unworkable and not happen. We can only do our best to prepare, along with many others, for the 4 Point Fight!


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      · 1 months ago
      @Frances Thanks so much. I’ve been so stressed out and then relieved to be awarded it and then literally a few days later this happens. 
      Thank you for your kind help. 
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    · 1 months ago
    When filling in the consultation, please don't forget to suggest abolishing reassessment of the current claimants on LCWRA as the Tories proposed.
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    · 1 months ago
    Why arent we also looking at the amount of employment tribunals and grievances DWP has against disabled staff? its so high!
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    · 1 months ago
    I do want to urge people to contact their MP's. We really need to apply pressure here and hammer the point home about how difficult these changes will be if they vote for them.

    Let's not make it easy for them to vote away our benefits with a clear conscience!
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      · 1 months ago
      @tintack Their wont be a public outcry because working people want the cuts too go ahead.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Neil Cook My MP is Tom Hayes, and the letter I sent him got a generic reply obviously sent out to everyone writing about these cuts. Now I assume he doesn’t care about disabled (people given he’s Labour), but if he’s getting volumes of letters from concerned constituents, that’s good. We need to show Labour’s MPs that we won’t lie down. These cuts will put many of us in an early grave, and we need to speak out voices of anger at Labour for not treating us as worthy of human existence.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Neil Cook It's still worth doing. The more people contact them about this the greater the pressure. If the public outcry is great enough they may feel they have to make changes, even if it's only to save their own skins.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Leah Considering my MP is Alison McGovern theny chances there are zero though I fired off a longish email anyway
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    · 1 months ago
    Does anyone know if we will all just be kicked off PIP in November 2026?
    I’ve literally only just been awarded it after being too frightened to claim until recently. I was given Standard Daily Living and Enhanced Mobility until February 2028 and I don’t understand if I’ll still get it until then or if it will just be stopped in November 2026? 
    I’m one point short of 4 in each category so won’t be entitled under the new rules. 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Sarah That’s what I want to know , I get daily amount since last may but not scored 4 on any so does that mean it will be taken from us ? How can they do that while dealing with new applicants , it’s going to take sometime to check all of us on it plus new applicants 
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      · 1 months ago
      @PB Thanks so much for the info. 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Sarah It would be after reassessment. As the plans now stand it will not just stop in November 2026.

      The Green Paper says it is not going to touch Mobility.

      There is a possibility, I hope, that some of these changes will be deflected.

      It is also the possibility that if denied you can ask for a mandatory reassessment and if necessary go to a tribunal.  If the plans go ahead I expect many people will do that and the process will be swamped.  The DWP has long given lowball points but then lost at tribunals.  

      There is every reason to be worried, but not urgently.
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    · 1 months ago
    Thank god this website exists! 

    Seriously, without this place, I wouldnt have the first clue where to turn.

    A big thankyou.
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    · 1 months ago
    Just so angry.

    All this money being taken from us will be used to fund wars in other countries we shouldn’t be involved in.

    Labour is meant to be caring and compassionate, but its MPs are literally no different to the worst Tories.

    We have no one really to vote for. Our votes are lost to the unfair voting system, and no party has in their platform any promise to stop cuts to disabled people’s living costs.
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    · 1 months ago
    I'm wondering about something......I'm on UC/LCWRA... indefinite or recurring fit note (can't remember which) but if as long as I don't get a reassessment call before April 26th, will my award stand at least until the UC health element comes in about April 2028?. Thank you and apologies for my constant rambling moans.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Neil Cook
      As I understand it, they're ramping up reassessments from now until the WCA is scrapped. So if you're reassessed between now and then and you still have LCWRA after reassessment, your health top-up should stay. What is not clear is for how long. The IFS said 600,000 people who get LCWRA but not PIP would lose out in 2028 when the WCA is scrapped and the health top-up becomes dependent on a PIP-type assessment. That suggests that those existing claimants would lose their health top-up in 2028 if they don't get PIP. But the text of the Green Paper says that if you have LCWRA prior to April 2026 and still have it after reassessment then your health top-up won't change. It does not say "will not change until 2028", which is what you would expect it to say if existing LCWRA awards were going to be lost in 2028.

      It's hard to know what to make of this. The IFS are usually pretty on the ball, and if they're right then our existing LCWRA awards will indeed be lost in 2028. But, as I said above, the text in the green paper does not say that.
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    · 1 months ago
    The government needs this proposal to be approved by the high court ......the government will lose
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      · 26 days ago
      @Mark Hi, I didn't think it was under consultation,  I'm so confused 😕 

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      · 1 months ago
      @Mark The high court doesn't work like that 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Mark I hope it tanks greater than a Sherman ever could
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    · 1 months ago
    One thing that has been overlooked here is that contribution based ESA and current New Style ESA are taxable. For people doing permitted work that meant a lot were paying some tax!
    I shall stop doing any work when support group disappears that’s for sure.

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      · 1 months ago
      @Vic It says in the Green Paper Consultation if you look at Article 54 Provisionally existing claimants on ESA CB wont be affected only new claimants.

      54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC, depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA, by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those 
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      · 1 months ago
      @Cmjdexterbunny Contribution based is not means tested & i havent ever paid tax on it 
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    · 1 months ago
    I am 64 soon, and have a 10 year ongoing award, granted in 2022, which also states that I won't be contacted again, until 2032, but can't see anything yet, that confirm's this will still be the case, does anyone know for sure what is likely to happen ?, but please don't just speculate, as rumour, and unsubstantiated information, is quite literally driving me insane !!. 
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    · 1 months ago
    How can they support people who lose out on 4 point rule? Well you lose £400 for pip daily £400 for LCWRA. Lose your family carer as no pip element. So now Need pay social care they can’t afford. And if under 35 lose one bed rate! 

    How much cuts is one disabled person supposed to bear? And THEN be assumed to be ready to get back to work!!