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@Timothy That is very interesting 

@sara I dont seem to get notifications for replies on the comments section. 

@Arthritic Annie

@Neil Cook Do I need to worry I'm m 64 this year x

@Maggie You are nearly at Retirement age no need too worry.

@Maggie My post was cut.

@Maggie, there's a high chance there wont be time for new pip rules to be introduced before your review, so just get your evidence together like last time and you'll get an ongoing enhanced award because of being near or beyond pension age. 

@Maggie There's a high chance there wont

@John (although despite what the government says the eligibility criteria for severe conditions criteria has been changed so it can now not be awarded for people whose eligibility to LCWRA is due to substantial risk).

@John @John The way you suggest things should go for existing lcwra and ongoing pip daily living awards is the logical, sane and sensible outlook. However, phrases such as 'it is hoped they might' and 'they should in theory' suggest even you are afraid we cannot rely on that forecast, given what we know about the review panel's and the government's logic, sanity and sense.

I cannot help but fear that, at any review, harsher criteria might be applied. It reassures me a little, though, when I reflect on the ferocity of protests against proposals for pip eligibility changes in the summer of this year, and this reminds me that we have always to be wary and ready for a fight, never allowing a government to put one over on us.

@lollo1 There is no change for people with ongoing pip awards. They will remain on paper based light touch reviews once every ten years. A light touch review is not an assessment or reassessment for PIP. The primary purpose of a light touch review is just to check the claimant is still alive and that the contact details for the claimant are up to date. People with ongoing awards are expected to be on pip for life.

While light touch reviews do not routinely trigger a reassessment. If a change is reported on the AR2 form it can trigger a reassessment if deemed necessary. Such a reassessment for people with ongoing PIP awards is very unlikely to cause a reduction or loss of PIP. And such a reassessment would only be face-to-face if deemed necessary. 70% of PIP assessments and reassessments are still going to be not face-to-face.

Due to the backlog someone on UC LCWRA is unlikely to be reassessed unless their condition would be expected to have improved or they were awarded on grounds of substantial risk. Even in those cases it remains to be seen how many the DWP will actually get around to reassessing. The eligibility criteria used for LCWRA is not being changed and 70% of WCA will remain not face-face. So if their condition has not changed and they were reassessed they would most likely not have a face-to-face and would most likely get rewarded LCWRA. They might even get placed in the severe conditions criteria group, when reassessed (although despite what the government says the eligibility criteria for severe conditions criteria has been changed so it can now not be awarded for people whose eligibility to LCWRA is due to substantial risk).

After the Timms PIP review reports in autumn 2026 the government plans to change the PIP assessment system to focus on the most severely disabled. People with ongoing PIP awards are hoped/expected to be unaffected. As Timms has previously said people with ongoing PIP awards would be unaffected by any change in the PIP assessment system as they are not routinely reassessed. And that he would look at putting in protections for those with ongoing PIP awards who report a change in a light touch review that triggers a reassessment.

In 2028/29 the government plans to abolish the WCA and along with it LCW and LCWRA status. Replacing the system with PIP daily living giving eligibility to UC health element. It is expected/hoped those with ongoing PIP daily living awards will be unaffected. As they should remain eligible for UC health due to receiving PIP daily living. And it is hoped they might be passported into the severe conditions criteria group. As they should in theory never be routinely reassessed for PIP so would never have the opportunity to be assessed as severe conditions criteria group. And have already been deemed disabled for life and in the case of enhanced daily living awards severely disabled for life. Which is similar to the wording used for the severe conditions criteria group severely disabled for life never expected to be able to work. 

@James h I'm so sorry to hear this, James h - it all sounds really tough for you.  Fingers crossed you get the result you are hoping for, and that you are able to find some brighter days through the fug of depression.  All best wishes.

@angie010 There is no change for them in regards to PIP. Their PIP awards remain ongoing/indefinite with light touch reviews every ten years.

Working age people with support group or LCWRA awards technically also have ongoing awards. Unlike PIP ongoing awards they are supposed to be reassessed at least every 3 years. In a lot of instances they have instead just had their reassessment dates extended year after year. This in theory is now ending for some. As the DWP wants to increase WCA reassessments. Focusing on those who would be expected to have improved and also focusing on those awarded under substantial risk eligibility criteria. How many the DWP will actually manage to reassess remains to be seen. And it seems very unfair and dangerous and based on bigotry and cruelty to focus on those awarded LCWRA due to substantial risk.  

@John In addition also consider after 2026, if someone goes from LCWRA to LCW then back to LCWRA, they wont be back on the original rate of LCWRA, and instead have the cut amount of LCWRA topup.

@John Yeah I can see how the number can be met, the WCA reassessments I expect will comfortable reach double figure % for either LCW or FFW.