Many figures in the Labour Party are beginning to list the planned cuts to benefits, and personal independence payment (PIP) in particular, as one of the major causes of Labour’s electoral losses at this week’s elections.  But so far, it seems the leadership is not listening.

According to the BBC, the Labour mayor of Doncaster who held on to her post with a much reduced majority, blamed the means-testing of the winter fuel allowance and the threat to PIP for her losses.

In the same article the BBC claim that they are being approached not just by the usual left wing MPs but also, off the record, by MPs from across Labour making the same points about why Labour is doing so badly.

One MP told the BBC "this is not a verdict on our failure to deliver.

"It is a verdict on what we have delivered. People on the doorsteps are using the word 'betrayal.'

"It's winter fuel. It's fear of Pips, it's a bit of immigration.”

And another long-standing Labour MP said "And it turns out that cutting disability and winter fuel payments comes at a cost – these are not Labour things to do".

In a separate piece, the BBC said a Labour campaigner in the Runcorn by-election told them the government's controversial decisions to cut winter fuel payments for pensioners and disability benefits had affected the result in what had been a safe Labour seat.

"On every door it was the same story - winter fuel and PIP," they said.

Emma Lewell MP, who has represented South Shields for Labour since 2013, said in a post on X:

“Trust matters. If you promise people that you will be focused on serving the public and then do not listen to them, do not expect them to vote for you.

“Withdrawal of winter fuel, denial of compensation for the Waspi women, and proposed disability cuts, have all broken that trust.”

And York Central Labour MP Rachel Maskell told BBC Breakfast: " . . . We’re not any other political party, we were created to serve the needs of people across working areas of our country so that people had a real voice of the kind of change that they wanted to see. . .  So, scrapping these proposals to push disabled people into hardship is an absolutely crucial part of that change, showing that we’re going to be listening to the country and protecting the people at their time of need."

Unfortunately, there is no sign yet that the Labour leadership is getting the message. 

Reacting to the results, Starmer said “I get it, we were elected in to deliver change, we've started that change – waiting lists down, wages up, interests rates down.

"The message I take out of these elections is we need to go further and faster on the change people want to see and that's what I'm determined to do."

Clearly, the cracks in the Labour party are beginning to spread beyond the “usual suspects”, but campaigners will need to go further and faster if they are to convince enough of the backbenches to dare to rebel against an unmoving leadership by June.

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    · 6 days ago
    Now and only now are some MPs finally deciding to come out of the woodwork As this might mean their job on the line next election While some had already put their head above the parapets The elections have made it real for others With all the losses on May 1st and what Labour policies really means to the electorate
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    · 8 days ago
    People voted Starmer for change FROM the Tories.
    Starmer changes Labour into the Tories!

    Starmer - Tin eared. 
    Reeves - economically illiterate.
    Kendall - wicked.
    Streeting - arrogant .
    Darren jones - Tory boy
    McFadden - turncoat
    Kyle - patronising
    Nandy - oh so disappointing
    Baroness (Angela) Smith - who?
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    · 9 days ago
    The planned axing of life line disability benefits continues to shame the Labour Party. There is growing dissent among Starmers Mps perhaps not on moral grounds but a growing sense of realism that every claimant who they attack will obviously not vote for them again. They probably fear losing their lucrative positions warm offices staff and expenses and being cast down among the ordinary people struggling to survive. They know that saving 5 billion is purely a propaganda exercise to conture the charge that they like giving working people's taxes to idle malingers feigning ill health.
    The entire plan is increasingly being exposed as rotten and cruel even evil bullies attacking sick people. They only think that because the local elections have hammered them. We should keep voting when we can tell our Mps that will happen no more votes if they keep attacking us.
    Personally I hope they turn on Starmer and Reeves they need remove from power. They are increasingly likely to destroy the Labour Party not that they care.
    I hope for all our sakes that Starmer goes and the Labour Party becomes the peoples party not an even viler version of the Tories.
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    · 10 days ago
    Be careful what you wish for here. Reform will be even harsher on benefits than Labour, of that I'm sure.
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      · 8 days ago
      @Von66 Im going to vote for the people who chopped one arm and leg off me, rather then the ones who would chop my head off. ARE YOU KIDDING.
      Von66 would it not be better to NOT vote for anyone who wants to chop anything off you at all.
      Like saying i want to be robbed by the person who will only steal 20 pounds off me rather 40!
      Madness.

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    · 10 days ago
    Labour will be toast at the next GE and rightly so. They will lose the pensioners and disabled vote and WASPI women. Shame on Labour, bunch of gaslighting crooks in suits
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    · 10 days ago
    When you claim your state pension and any disability you sign your application thereby your entering into a contract with the government. If the other party ( the government) changes the contract part way through surely you legal beagles out there will agree then we as the other party must agree to the change in writing. As the contract is legally binding. So if don’t agree then alternative settlement terms must apply don’t they?. If they take part of pip away surely they are changing the contract. all changes on both sides have to be advised and agreed there rules I think? 
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    · 10 days ago
    Well how about this I’ve read lots of comments on here this afternoon. But the common theme is we have been shafted. So I’m sure you would all agree being disabled and pensioners that have paid our taxes dutifully for many years without question a % of which goes to pay our state pension and disability if the government intends to withdraw it . So changing the contract part through without our consent we should be allowed to have our contributions back or else that’s fraud and deception isn’t it? 
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      · 5 days ago
      @Gazmo66 Agreed !! Contract paper agreement same goes for having to pay for care in loved ones home terminally ill dementia has no cure the NHS was paid for via National Insurance scheme contributions taken from them ALL THEIR WORKING LIVES so when they need care it should be FREE!
       Wes Streeting is disgusting for going back on help due Oct 2025 instead of having to use inheritence and saving care should be there according Wes Streeting from Cradle to grave but its not for our dementua loved ones & terminally ill cancer loved ones who need heat all year round so anyone terminally ill should have gotten the winter fuel but didn't because means testing and pension credit most could not apply for
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    · 10 days ago
    MP's are there to serve the public NOT themselves
    When they vote on any issue for transparency they should have to reveal the vote they made not hide  behind doubtful rules
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      · 10 days ago
      @Shaun Andrews Exactly!. They are there to do our bidding. Elected by the people for the people and not line their own pockets at the expense of the people.,they are bloody awful. I could say it worse but this is a public forum and certain diplomacy as to be observed but it’s dire!
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    · 10 days ago
    Already realised why Labour lost votes on Thursday, I’m a party member already have had go at my MP at meeting on Friday about PIP CUTS, and the effect on pensioners receiving it, obviously the only way they save the amount they are after is to take if from pensioners.
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      · 10 days ago
      @Richard Bell Exactly Richard I’m a member too. This bloody rabble are sending us and this country to the dogs. They don’t give a hoot to pensioners and the disabled the 10.5 million who voted for them in last general election perhaps they ought to think about that. 
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    · 10 days ago
    Well they have just over 4 years to go i even broke my own rule and voted for them.  According ti the doorstep talk telling me they were not going to touch winter fuel allowance nor pip and waspi would get the compensation what a fool i was!!!  All i can say now is i hope they enjoy their time because they will not get into power again they knew that any pensioner on the new pension rate would never get pension credit becsuse we are over by £3-4 a week and without pension credit every door is closed bad enough we don't get cost of lving most depend on winter fuel i only have 1 meal a day so that i can have 2 hours of heating and the rest of the time i use blankets and duvet and coats to keep warm god help me if the winter becomes really cold.
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      · 10 days ago
      @Sandra G Did you apply for pension credit because you won’t get it all with the new state pension but it that’s your only income you can still get the pension credit guarantee it’s about £55 a week still worth applying try the pension credit calculator on the you GOV pension credit website it’s free takes about 45 minutes to complete and it will tell wether or not you will get it. If so apply via the link immediately 
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      · 10 days ago
      @Sandra G Shame on this government, pensioners are the bread and butter of society, you deserve full respect, and I will become a pensioner next March, so I expect nothing from these lot, God bless you, take care, and hope you get the help you deserve.
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    · 10 days ago
    The best way to teach these people is by nit voting for them. 
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    · 10 days ago
    I find this Sickening that Labour think the way they do. Next they’ll be killing us disabled people off to reduce the bills. I’m a retired NHS Theatre Nurse. Words hard done my back in surgery and I’m now 74. 
    We had low pay in my day could not save for a pension so I rely on a  state pension. 
    pip with all my health need does not go far. Am I supposed to eat Bread and Dripping. Now no Heating allowance. 
    Iv paid my taxes like many of you. I worked all my life doing 12 hour night duty. I don’t ask to be rich. But please treat me fairly and with respect. 
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    · 10 days ago
    Of course the ridiculous 4 point rule and cutting pensioners energy money are two of the biggest talking points, I’m just shocked they, apparently, didn’t see it coming, and it took until after the local elections for the vast majority of Labour MP’s to say anything.  Problem now is, why are they ‘silently’ talking, off the record, to journalists, that’s not good enough, they ought to be loud and proud and shout it from the roof tops. Off the record is them being scared of Starmer and co and thinking of their jobs first.  No put their constituents first or they’ll be leaving their job in the long run anyway.  These MP’s need to get a grip. 
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    · 12 days ago
    Apparently we’ve only had ‘part 1’ of disability cuts and reforms

    Part 2 will be announced in the autumn and will contain worse things than part 1!


    What is there left to cut - it’s already beyond the bone………only thing left is to axe disability benefits altogether and introduced the workhouses or use the assisted dying bill to activity reduced the number of disable ppl in the uk

    Do Morgan mcsweeney’s puppets even have human souls at this point?
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      · 11 days ago
      @Dez It sounds as though there is already widespread alarm in the PLP about the electoral impact of stage one, let alone "stage two". If they try to go even further that might put rocket boosters under a potential rebellion. Unless they're floating the idea of further cuts so they can withdraw them and "only" do what they've already announced as a way of buying off potential rebels. I don't think that would work though - the "stage one" cuts have apparently been brought up repeatedly on the doorstep and are therefore more than enough to be costing Labour votes already.
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      · 12 days ago
      @D Personally, I’m hoping the “stage two” they’re talking about is just the White Paper and therefore just the next state of the legalisation vs. a next stage of benefit cuts but I agree. It’s very alarming language used.

      But this is what happens when people vote for people who want to come down harder on benefits (Reform). I’d hate to say I told you so but…
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    · 13 days ago
    Hopefully the losses sustained by Labour on the back of their decisions on WFA and proposed plans for sick and disabled people will also open the eyes of the leaders of the other parties. We gotta have hope 
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    · 13 days ago
    The trouble is that people like T. Blair, G. Brown, D. Blunkett, A. Campbell, etc., are backing Keir Starmer behind the curtain, and without their support, he wouldn't have the guts to parrot "going further and faster" albeit Labour's damning election results.

    T. Blair is the one who secured jobs for his cronies known as Blairites, such as Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall, as these are after all his own creation.

    T. Blair continues to have significant influence over Keir Starmer's Labour party. For instance, when Angela Rayner reportedly threatened to quit over the Government's “impossible” target of building 1.5 million homes in England by the end of this parliament, T. Blair stepped in and convinced Ms Rayner to remain in her post - wrote Lord Aschroft.

    T. Blair is also the very one who's actively promoting and pushing the widespread adoption of AI in this country, particularly in the public service, which will pave the way for a significant job redundancy, dismissing employees and replacing them with AI.


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    · 14 days ago
    "Going further and faster"
    Wouldn't please anybody to back track..won't admit they are wrong, Everyone else sees it.
    Open your eyes, Starmer, and see the trouble you've not only laid out before us ,but for your party also.
    I do not get this at all. Don't you want to be PM? Is this a deliberate ploy to obliterate Labour. Well,its Working perfectly. But to what or rather whose expense??. Ours! 
    Get me off this rock, I've had more than my fill over my 59 years. There's no peace for us. 
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      · 10 days ago
      @The Dogmother I think they have the whole picture we are up the creek without a paddle. We are in an awful mess. The going faster statement is faster to oblivion. We have reached a critical point they are going to do away with all of it.,state pension and all benefits saving £300 billion a year. Well all can is if that’s the case I want my 47 years of tax contributions back the 5.6% per year plus 8% compound interest on the state pension I paid for Abd I’m all of you want yours back too. Gary Jameson 
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    · 14 days ago
    This is an absolutely true comment that I made to my wife this afternoon.

    Instead of Keir Starmer - I had a major Spoonerism moment.

    I called him Steer Kalmer.

    Well he really needs to be a hell of a lot calmer whilst steering through the PIP crisis ?
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    · 14 days ago
    This is the problem when you have millionaires in charge. They are out of touch. Reform would be no better. And we’ve already seen what the Tories were planning with their voucher nonsense.
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    · 14 days ago
    The bad results for labour in the local elections could just be the kick off point for the break through we need to get the green paper out the commons, starmer is so arrogant with his reaction, the public will see through him eventually, hopefully sooner than later. As I've said before on here, this is not what the labour party was formed for, starmer and his vile cronies just don't understand what it takes to connect with the general public. They have caused so much anxiety and panic over the proposed benefits cuts and hopefully sometime soon they will get their just deserts. 

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