The Timms review interim report issued today argues that it must be “radical” and “bold” in its recommendations for changes to personal independence payment (PIP).  However, it’s clear that the panel still have no clue what these recommendations should be, with no more than 25 working days left to design and test a new system.

Dehumanising system

The report is damning of the current PIP system, calling it “dehumanising”  and “overly complex, repetitive and difficult to navigate, particularly for people whose needs fluctuate or are less visible.”

It also argues that PIP “can create barriers to participation, including in work, physical activity and community life.”

The committee want to see PIP having “a clearer emphasis on supporting independent living and participation in society, for example through volunteering, work, and cultural and social activities.”

The conclusion it reaches is that:

“PIP is not working. It is not working for the people that go through the process, nor for a government committed to supporting disabled people. We are committed to making changes so that PIP can fulfil its purpose for disabled people and those with long-term conditions, both now and into the future. Doing so will require us to be radical in our thinking and bold in our recommendations for reform.”

But, because the panel members work only five days a month and must report by the Autumn, it means they have no more than 25 working days left to design and test their radical and bold changes.

According to the report, the plan is to spend August and September developing recommendations and the Autumn testing and refining those recommendations.

There does not appear to be any plan to consult generally with the four million PIP claimants about any proposals for change, however.  Instead, the panel will be working with “a wide range of individuals and stakeholders, with a particular emphasis on reaching lesser-engaged groups and individuals from minoritised communities. This approach will ensure that the recommendations reflect the full diversity of experiences and address existing gaps in insight.”

Call for evidence

The call for evidence findings were processed by DWP staff using AI before being shared with the Timms panel.  Amongst the findings were:

  • approximately 40% of responses reference the interaction between PIP and independent living or participation in work and society – many say PIP enables independent living or participation in work and society, whilst some say PIP discourages independent living and participation
  • over 90% of responses relating to process were negative, 5% were positive, with the remainder unclear or neutral
  • assessment-related issues were referenced in approximately 70% of responses
  • approximately 25% to 30% reference appeals and decisions being changed later in the process
  • multiple and interacting health conditions are referenced in around 83% of responses – less-visible, cognitive, neurodivergence, and mental health conditions appear in around 70% of responses
  • around 45% of responses reference difficulties capturing fluctuating conditions.

Concerningly, the report seems to have focused in places on minority responses from claimants that support a cuts agenda.

Under the heading “The adequacy of PIP” the report notes that “A recurring theme across responses is that PIP does not consistently reflect the true cost of disability, particularly where costs are continuous, variable, and interconnected.”

However, it then goes on to highlight the just 8% of claimants who are concerned about the rising cost of PIP, quoting one as saying:

“The rising cost of PIP is becoming unsustainable, partly because eligibility is not tightly focused on those with the most significant, unavoidable limitations.”

The report then points out that:

“A small number of responses (around 6%) also reference over-generosity of PIP, particularly the Motability scheme:

“I don’t believe that people should be able to get BMW or Audi cars that have the full spec of everything even if they do want to put an upfront payment up.”

In relation to employment, the report quotes just two claimants.  The first says they were rejected for PIP because they had a job. 

The second quote was from one of a “small number of respondents” who see PIP as discouraging employment:

“I have worked with or been friends with a number of people that are on PIP and don’t need to be: in fact, that they are receiving PIP means they have no incentive to find formal work and are able to get work cash in hand and not declare it.”

It is hard to see why the panel thought this prejudiced and unevidenced accusation should be worthy of inclusion as one of only two quotes on PIP and employment.

In relation to changes in health, the panel again chose to give prominence to a minority view that fits with the government’s own opinion on young people and mental health:

“A small number of respondents (2%) suggest that the increased prevalence of mental health conditions, particularly among young people, can be attributed to exaggeration or overdiagnosis.

“Too many people claiming for what I would call everyday anxiety problems.”

The evidence relating to assessment appears to have been overwhelmingly negative, describing it as “dehumanising”, “soul destroying”, “humiliating”, and “degrading”.  Just 5% say they had a positive experience of the assessment system.

Still in the dark

The reality seems to be that the Timms review interim report leaves claimants still entirely in the dark about what changes to PIP will be recommended.  It is clear that they will be radical, but in what way, when they may be introduced and whether they will affect current claimants are all issues that this interim report does nothing to illuminate.

As an exercise in increasing anxiety amongst claimants it is probably largely successful.  But as a means of informing people about the future of PIP, it is a non-starter.

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    · 14 days ago
    What's this I've been hearing about pip being abolished for new claimants after review? What else are they gonna do to us
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      · 14 days ago
      @Neil (real one) The Timms PIP review interim report does not mention abolishing PIP. It mentions:

      PIP "is no longer fit for purpose"

      the need for the review to be "radical in our thinking and bold in our recommendations for reform."

      "it is unclear how effective PIP is in supporting independent living and participation in society for disabled people – though the Review knows that PIP does help with independent living, it is unclear if other forms of support would be more effective"

      But the plan appears to still be to reform PIP not abolish it.

      The Timms PIP review interim report does not mention protecting pre-existing claimants from any changes. Although that is obviously a possibility given the concessions the government previously offered before abandoning its previous 4 point PIP plan.


      Going by the interim report I expect:

      PIP descriptors and points system to be changed or even abandoned. To focus less on what people cannot do. And possibly a change in what information is used to make award decisions to included more personal circumstances and expert medical evidence. And changes in how people with fluctuating health conditions or multiple health conditions are handled.

      The number of different PIP award levels and or the amounts of money received for award levels to possibly be changed. And or an attempt to make PIP award amounts more personalized.

      A shift to encouraging people to participate in society, especially to work.

      Those claiming for mental health (anxiety, depression), developmental neurological conditions (ADHD, autism, learning disabilities), and possibly those with energy limiting conditions and maybe even those with backpain and arthritis. Look likely to be targeted to make PIP sustainable for the future (save money). But, given the Equalities Act it is difficult to see how specific health conditions can be targeted without targeting all people with the same level of incapability regardless or health condition. So maybe all mental descriptors or points, and all need disability aid descriptors and points, and all fluctuating conditions.

      A shift to providing people with other more effective support as well as or instead of PIP. Which the report does not detail. But which is presumably things like talking therapy and help towards and into work. And maybe other help like physiotherapy. Presumably this would mostly be used to justify removing or reducing PIP from some of those mentioned above.  
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    · 16 days ago
    I personally feel they will be thinking there's money to be made for these companies to help the poor disabled who obviously don't spend PIP just on adjustments ,if after decades of work and paying taxes then your unable to continue how do they think it's not impossible to manage on benefits for long periods,they also forget the claimants have been tax payers until they become Disabled,do you lose the right to dignity as soon as your no longer a taxpayer. Then step in companies who never do as they should they are private profit making Businesses who think of the bottom line and not the vulnerable it all reminds me of water companies and we all know how that went surely it's up to the disabled how to spend this in work benefit
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    · 16 days ago
    They already class pip as means tested benefits. I have to pay council tax  and other huge bills with it?
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      · 15 days ago
      @Bob Where I am the 100%discount now is only 50% so my council tax has risen from £17 per month to approx £53 per month and the council couldn't care less
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      · 16 days ago
      @islamae You lost the postcode lottery of council tax reduction schemes as most schemes disregard PIP as income. As the government's suggested scheme does. 

      The postcode lottery winners enjoy council tax reduction schemes that disregard PIP income, UC disability premiums, UC age allowance, and as ESA is deducted from UC if someone is on UC disregard ESA. And give 100% discount. 
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    · 16 days ago
    An interim report is unhelpful. Timms had to come up with something fast, therefore vague, so as not to risk accusations of u-turns down the line. I bet he loved being treated like a gcse student.

    For the media this is a free for all, and for claimants simply torture.
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    · 16 days ago
    The government and the media have been stressing out disabled DWP claimants for decades with the constant attacks and threats of taking our money away. It's truly shocking the sheer amount of stress and distress they have caused us with this never ending campaign against the sick and disabled.
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    · 16 days ago
    It's going to take some time if they try and customise everyone's payment. I don't see that being possible, especially if they reassess existing claimants.

    And what about pensioners on pip -'not routinely reassessed' maybe, but what about at the ten year review? They might fall into a different bracket if the rates have changed.

    Perhaps we are all going to have to account for our financial needs - 'something more personalised' sounds like less money for some people according to how much they think each claimant needs. Impossibly complicated, and people's costs are not the same all the time either.
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      · 16 days ago
      @godgivemestrength Going by what Timms has previously said pensioners and others on indefinite or ongoing awards should be unaffected. As they previously said no change to entitlement will be made without a full reassessment and they are not routinely reassessed just light touch reviewed.

      I cannot see them making personalised awards based on people accounting for their personal financial needs. As while that is done in some countries it would require an awful lot of administration. 

      I can see them considering increasing the number of PIP daily living award levels for 2 to 4. 

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    · 16 days ago
    Timms on PIP being a cash benefit

    "The steering group is clear that the provision of cash to meet the additional costs of disability is vital. We will not be moving away from the importance of that, but I think there is a question about whether the process can also point people towards help that may be valuable to them in addition to, or in some cases perhaps instead of, a cash payment. There is help and support that people need, and I think the process could help to point people to that. One problem people have had to contend with is the terrible NHS waiting lists, which thankfully are now being reduced, but the system may be able to point people to the right place in the health service. We are looking at all those issues and we will come back with recommendations in our final report."
    ..... 
    " I hope that we will be able to come up with a proposal that will entail greater personalisation. At the moment, for example, the number of different rates of benefit paid out is not very many—it is quite a lumpy system. I think there is a question to be asked about whether something more personalised could do a better job."
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      · 16 days ago
      @Bob If they want to create more PIP award levels they could:

      Split Enhanced rate Daily Living into two. The top one could be higher than the current amount. So the government could claim to not only be refocusing PIP onto the most severely disabled but increasing support for the most severely disabled. While the bottom one could be lower than the current amount but with transitional protection for pre-existing claimants. So the government can claim they are not cutting their benefits in cash terms but are making PIP spending sustainable for the future and more reflective of different costs of disability.

      Split Standard rate PIP Daily Living into two. The top one the same amount as the current amount and giving eligibility to UC health. The bottom one less but with transitional protection for pre-existing claimants. And the bottom one not giving eligibility to UC Health. This would enable the government to claim people's PIP is not being cut in cash terms, and the number of people eligible for PIP is not being reduced. While making PIP spending sustainable in the long-term and recognising the world has changed and people should be offered help not just cash.

      Also some of those currently on LCWRA and not PIP could be eligible for this new lowest level of PIP so partially offsetting their loss of LCWRA. And while not eligible for UC Health it could create a group DWP work coaches are supposed to offer talking therapy, physiotherapy, additional help towards and into work, and improved safeguarding. Rather than leaving it purely up to DWP work coaches to decide who is and is not ill/disabled unemployed. And in the future help/conditionality could be expanded to the next PIP award level up.

      Doing all the above would shift the cut to PIP to new claims and the longer term for pre-existing claimants due to transitional protection. And to UC health. Would enable the government to claim it is refocusing PIP on the most severely disabled and increasing support for the most severely disabled. Not cutting pre-existing claimants PIP in cash terms and not reducing the number of people eligible for PIP. While making PIP spending sustainable in the long-term. Recognising people should be offered help not just cash. Recognising different levels of extra costs due to disability and making the PIP award levels less lumpy more personalised. 
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    · 16 days ago
    I always said the government just want pip high rates only and scrap the other rates so it really go towards the most severely disabled and if you don’t qualify for high rate pop than you get nothing and have to attend workshop and work fairs ect etc this is only my opinion 
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      · 16 days ago
      @Diceman24 Timms in the Commons was on about making the PIP benefit amounts less lumpy and more personalised. So maybe some people will lose PIP and some people will receive a reduced amount in comparison to what they would currently get. And who knows maybe some peope will receive a higher amount than they would currently get. So the government can claim to be providing more help for those most in need at the same time as it is actually cutting the benefit. 
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    · 16 days ago
    Ministers are looking at restricting cash payments? Are they insane what are we supposed to do then if we still are unable to work for whatever reason
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    · 17 days ago
    I wish they'd just put us out of our misery one way or the other, it's absolutely destroying me it really is.
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      · 16 days ago
      @Neil (real one) Me to. Soul destroying  i don't know how much more of this hate towards disabled people i can take
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      · 17 days ago
      @Neil (real one) It's a slow process we could be sitting here in a years time,their will be opposition and protests too any cuts.
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    · 17 days ago
    They already knew what the results of the review would be, way before it started. The rest is just making sure its all skewed to fit the results that were always intended.
    Its as simple as that. Vast majority of politicians have plenty of money, and its all about making sure they keep it, and it keeps getting handed down their family tree.
    Doesnt matter which party is in control , they take the money from those who struggle, to ensure the money stays where it is. Because if they already have the money in their view the money is better with them, than given to those who need it, and will "waste" it , buying  food and paying bills so they can actually exist.
    Without a massive change to the political system , so "real" people actually get some input, nothing will change , they will just continue to keep the focus away from keeping them in the style to which they live.

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      · 16 days ago
      @Jagang Before they came into office from the tory party. As I think the Labour Party are working with them. 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Jagang No surprise there ,a rigged result to say what only they want to see in order to justify their disgusting actions against us
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    · 17 days ago
    Oh my goodness I’m only onto “Themes 108” and not feeling good vibes from this massive block of text at all. We shall see how this all fits “neatly” into the final review. It feels like from what I have read and comprehended so far, is that a lot of focus is on Work and other ways to provide help other than, or instead of, actually paying money to PIP recipients ? I don’t know if that’s what others see, maybe not. I can’t shake the feeling of dread. I will reserve judgement for now and see what will replace PIP and how. 
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      · 9 days ago
      @Chazy Themes 108 sounds like an audio compilation collection.....if only
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      · 17 days ago
      @rookie Most likely talking therapy and physical therapy and help towards and into work. For those deemed no longer disabled enough to receive PIP. As they change the descriptors and points system to focus less on what people can't do. And refocus eligibility on the most severely disabled. 

      The big problem they face is trying to remove eligibility from health conditions they deem less deserving without falling foul of the equalities act. So while they might want to just attack those with anxiety, depression, ADHD, autism. They may have to attack everyone with fluctuating health conditions or the same level of incapability. Which risks lossing public support as people with health conditions not demonised by the media playing on prejudice get impacted. People who the public overwhelmingly still view as deserving. 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Chazy @Chazy Yes, they're being very cagey about 'other support'. I don't want to have to give up cash so I can join a choir.
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    · 17 days ago
    Many decades ago when I was a, healthy, kid, we went on Geography field trip. Everyone was suppose to ask passers by how they got to town, would they use trains, buses etc.

    Instead everyone went to the pub, and then just made up numbers that fitted our purposes and were glibly plausible. The teachers were worse, and didn't care about reality as long as they got credit for the 'work' that was happening. 

    I never knew then that I was training for Government
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      · 14 days ago
      @Lester I suppose that shows how people's attitude can change with their circumstances. As a 'healthy kid' that was a funny thing to do, but assessors doing that is not funny if you're on the receiving end.

      Those teachers obviously had no regard for the importance of the work they were supposed to be doing, or the examp!e they should have been setting.

      Misrepresentation of data is a serious matter.
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      · 17 days ago
      @Lester Made me laugh thanks Lester! 😁
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    · 18 days ago
    I've read the article above and these are my initial thoughts...


    'The report is damning of the current PIP system, calling it “dehumanising” and quote: “overly complex, repetitive and difficult to navigate, particularly for people whose needs fluctuate or are less visible.“'

    My Partner, (I'm her carer), has two conditions in her lower back that fluctuate between varying levels of pain, just like a roller coaster. These are long term conditions which realistically have no chance of recovery. At its worst, her pain is so bad that I have to physically hold and support her a few steps into the bathroom, (or she'll fall), help her onto the toilet and lift her up again, or help her undress, help her into bed etc.. She also has arthritis in both ankles, scoliosis, liver cirrhosis, IBS and diverticulitis. She is never OUT of pain.


    To answer the above paragraph, my Partner has borderline personality disorder with a long history of self harm (with many visible scars on her arms), she has very high levels of anxiety and stress, including panic attacks, and this comes complete with a deep social phobia. What would be normal interactions for us would very quickly overwhelm her. All of the conditions mentioned above are officially diagnosed, and none of them are in any way her fault. 

    How can someone with borderline personality disorder, who is a self harm risk, with high levels of anxiety and stress, and a social phobia, plus all of the physical conditions mentioned above be expected to volunteer, work or engage in cultural and social activities?






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      · 17 days ago
      @John Government advisers? What a horrible thought 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Phil C I think it best to remain confident that such a person would not be expected to do those things. There has always been provision in the discussion for the most severely disabled. We shouldn't waste energy anticipating the worst. Let's see what we actually face.
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      · 17 days ago
      @Phil C Considering who the government chose to be on the steering committee. At least they did not say PIP should be about enabling people to be inspirational speakers, paralympic athelets and successful entrepreneurs and government advisors. 
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    · 18 days ago
    The 12 members of the Timms PIP review steering group:

    UNISON (biggest union donor to Labour) National Officer for Disability Equality, Katrina Gilman. Lived experience of multiple disabilities

    CEO Disability Action Haringey, and Chair of the Board of Trustees, Disability Action in Islington. Former co-chair of the LibDem disability group Phil Stevens.

    Policy Exchange (Right wing think tank) Jean-André Prage. Former special advisor on the DWP to Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. Senior Fellow, , Flint Global. Policy exchange wants PIP for those aged 16-30 to be conditional on engaging in looking for work, engaging in further education or training, volunteer work.

    Former policy advisor to the DWP under the Tory government Dr Ben Geiger Ph.D. Professor of Social Science and Health at King's College London. Co-leads work, welfare reform and mental health programme, and co-leads the welfare experience project.

    Independent advisor to the UK government Dr Dharshana Sridhar, medical doctor. Lived experience as a long-term carer. Head of Public Affairs, Spinal Injuries Association

    Chair of Board of Trustees, Disability North, and Founder, We Are All Disabled CIC. Public speaker and social entrepreneur Dr Lucy Reynolds. Has cerebral palsy. Is an advocate of the affirmative model of disability which celebrates difference and the unique skills and attributes that disabled people bring to the workplace and wider society. Her organization "we are all disabled CIC" is paid to do disability courses for businesses looking to employ disabled people. And uses success stories of working disabled people in it's promotional material. 

    Former board member of Disability Wales Dr Felix Shi Ph.D. Has visual impairment. Lecturer in Management, Bangor University. Works to understand the experience of disabled people to provide a voice for those less represented in academia. and current member of the Arforn Access Group. Seeks to connect policy makers with grassroots DPOs. Comparative insights into disability policy across multiple national contexts.

    Paralympic wheelchair volleyball, rugby and international wheelchair basketball gold winner. Exemplar for engaging disabled people and those with long term health conditions to be physically active. Disability Inclusion Manager, West Midlands Combined Authority Dr Mark Fosbrook, honorary doctorate.

    Paralympic Gold medal winning swimmer, Head of Co-production, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham Tara Flood. Campaigns for inclusion in education, champions the social model of disability.

    Dr Mark Brookes MBE, honorary doctorate. Has a learning disability. Advocacy lead for Dimensions UK, checking people are supported in a personalised way. Public speaker and campaigner on disability hate crime and for people with learning disabilities and autism to be treated equally.

    Disability rights advocate and Non-Executive Advisor, social care entrepreneur George Fielding BME. Wheelchair user with cerebral palsy. Campaigns for wheelchair users.

    Leila Talmadge. Autistic and dyslexic. Founder and former Director, Autistic Knowledge Development CIC. Improving the lives and opportunities of autistic people.
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      · 17 days ago
      @Bob Not a single representative for people with mental illness. This is going to be bad.
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      · 17 days ago
      @Bob How many of these people live in poverty and have to deal with the many problems which arise from that? Not many if any I am willing to bet. How many of them have been sacked from their job like I was, as I was taking too much time from work, due to my neurological illness? How many of them are on means tested benefits? None I bet. This group of individuals smacks of privilege they don't live in the same world that I do and my disabled friends.
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    · 18 days ago
    So they have basically revealed nothing at all about these proposed plans under the Timms review. People like him or any other Labour Conservative Reform UK etc politican other than the ones who are disabled. They have absolutely no idea about them they don't have to live with it the gripple with severe long lasting major depressive episodes that last months. For me It's the worst feeling imaginable. They aren't even medically qualified. They don't have to live with disabilities and or ill health. Neither are those so called "health care professionals I had an occupational therapist she wasn't nice at all she lied and twisted everything.  I have ASD and then cyclothymia (revised as bipolar affective disorder type 2 since May 2026 after a severe hypomanic episode including only 2 hours of sleep a night without fatigue for nearly three months follwed by a depressive crash). And possibly Ehlers danlos syndrome awaiting specialists for it. She couldn't even pronounce cyclothymia she asked how long I had autism. Any health care professional nurse doctors GPs, psychiatrists, phycologist etc knows that it is a neurological disorder something you are born with! And she is supposed to be a health care professional is laughable. 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Mouseclickeyboardtap Having gone through four separate occupational health assessments within the last year, I'm afraid the standard of health care professionals is fire. I took legal advice during the spring, and the highly experienced solicitor was quite scathing about the reports. I do hope that the Timms Review will recommend that only medically qualified staff should perform assessments (and in complex cases enlist the support of specialist Consultants) if insurance companies can do this, so can the Government.
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    · 18 days ago
    Is anyone on the review committee in receipt of PIP?
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      · 17 days ago
      @robbie 18th March 2025
      Secretary of State for Work and Pensions speech to the House of Commons launching the Pathways to Work reform of disability and incapacity benefits. 

      "So today I can announce this Government will NOT bring in [political content removed] proposals for vouchers – because disabled people should have choice and control over their lives.

      We will not means-test PIP. Because disabled people deserve extra support, whatever their incomes.

      And Mr Speaker I can confirm we will not freeze PIP either.

      Instead, our reforms will focus support on those with the greatest needs"

      Pathways to Work is still the current plan. 
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      · 17 days ago
      @John @John Has it categorically ruled out replacing PIP with vouchers? They keep mentioning alternative support. Cash is what we need, to meet our individual expenses.
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      · 18 days ago
      @bronc Yes some of them I would expect are on PIP. And fortunately for them the government has ruled out making PIP means tested, or taxable, or replacing PIP with vouchers. So they should all be fine. 
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    · 18 days ago
    "The Timms review interim report issued today argues that it must be “radical” and “bold” in its recommendations for changes to personal independence payment (PIP). However, it’s clear that the panel still have no clue what these recommendations should be, with no more than 25 working days left to design and test a new system."

    I think the people doing the report where picked by the government because the the DWP has a clue of what they will recommend. Based on what the organizations and businesses they represent do and the opinions and policy suggestions they have previously made. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @John Exactly. This government clearly knows what direction it wants PIP to go in and that sure as hell isn't making it a benefit which will give more support to disabled claimants.
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    · 18 days ago
    The review must not lead to cuts or restrictions for people who have autism, adhd, mental illness. To include the minority responses who suggest that too many claim because of these things and suggest restrictions is worrying but also not surprising especially given recent comments by Alan Milburn and Pat McFadden as well as think tanks, Tories, and the media.
    But as someone with these conditions primarily, I am very concerned that this review and reform to PIP will do just that - Restrict it for us even though we still have costs, we’re still entitled to PIP and may also have physical fluctuating conditions a long side.
    It might not be fit for purpose but is that government speak for changing eligibility to exclude people like me, and also use PIP to get people back to work even though it’s not an unemployment benefit? 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Catherine I hope not, I’m sick of people thinking adhd is over diagnosed and not that serious. My son has it, and it destroys his life on a daily basis. Losing things, being extremely impulsive, forgetting everything all the time. It’s so hard and not easy to live with at all.