Money Bill

There has been discussion about whether Labour will seek to have this bill designated as a money bill, which would effectively remove House of Lords scrutiny.  A decision about whether a bill is a money bill is made by the Speaker of the House, after the report stage.  However, according to guidance on Money Bills from the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel: 

1.35 During the debates in 1911 it was alleged to be a defect in the bill that the Speaker was not required to make his decision earlier because of the risk of the Commons proceedings being completed in ignorance of whether the bill was to be certified. There is now an informal indication, published as a note when the Bill is listed on the Commons Order Paper, as to whether a bill is likely to be certified as a money bill.

The notice that the bill will be presented today on the Order Paper makes no mention of a money bill, so this seems to be an indication - though not a certainty - that Labour are not pursuing this possibility.


Bill due this afternoon

The Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill is due to be published this afternoon.  This is the bill that will enable the introduction of the PIP 4-point rule and cuts to universal credit for disabled claimants.

We’ll provides links, analysis and the opportunity for you to comment on this page.

According to the UK parliament website, it is a:  "Bill to make provision to alter the rates of the standard allowance, limited capability for work element and limited capability for work and work-related activity element of universal credit and the rates of income-related employment and support allowance, and to restrict eligibility for the personal independence payment."

 

 

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    · 9 minutes ago
    Labour are threatening to kick the rebels out of the party if they don't vote the cuts through 
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    · 20 minutes ago
    My MP for Crewe & Nantwich (South Cheshire)followed the Labour line and support for the bill, saying he believed people were better off working and they should be helped into work.  My assumption is that once in work you will get little  no benefits from PIP no matter what your condition.  The disadvantages in work and getting a job in the first place are great, and not all employers are either towing the line or even following laws anyway on 'reasonable adjustments'. I have seen two colleagues dismissed not for their disability, but for capability as they could not face work every day, and no allowance could be made to accommodate that. To say that work compensates for disability is wrong, and the small amount that many receive in PIP is very welcome in a tough economic world.  I expect to lose my PIP, which I have had since 2008, as I score standard for both components, but have significant mobility issues.
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    · 20 minutes ago
    So scared and terrified what this guv are going to push me to.
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    · 21 minutes ago
    Aged 77 and 80, Disabled since 1985. No works pension to speak of. If this goes through we'll lose our house.
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    · 25 minutes ago
    This government does not care about disabled people full stop pip is very hard to claim in the first place as the agenda is to stop people from getting it I know as it took near to six years to get it they throw everything in the way to stop you it's particularly calling when you've served the country and been left disabled that's why we must fight this government because it is unjust to pick on the Vunrebale
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    · 30 minutes ago
    From dr Rebecca on twitter:

    “I'm told MPs are combing through social media to gauge public reaction to the proposed welfare cuts and the potential backlash ahead of the debate later today. So make your voices heard. ✊ And if you see any Labour MPs against these cuts, retweet and like. 🫡”
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    · 31 minutes ago
    What is happening with LCWRA… no one on here seems to discuss that. 
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    · 50 minutes ago
    What happens if you are on old age pension how will it affect pip.
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    · 56 minutes ago
    As a disabled pensioner relying on PIP to maintain independence I'm sick to my core that people like me are no longer protected.  I can't possibly go back to work, not should I have to. I've done my time and paid my dues. Labour are making it clear that people who can't work due to age and disability have no value to them. 
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    · 57 minutes ago
    Re : Money Bill, Hoyle has shown he will not stand up to the Leadership and in previous cases it can be declared at the point it enters the Lords or at Ping Pong.
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    · 1 hours ago
    Just now at PMQs, Angela Rayner has finally definitively nailed her colours to the mast. A despicable display of toeing the party line and parroting the usual mealy-mouthed platitudes.
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    · 1 hours ago
    I have enhanced PIP on both elements and I have a motability vehicle.

     I was receiving tax credits but was then moved to UC, for which I was then refused as I received spousal maintenance as part of my divorce settlement. 

    If I work, my spousal maintenance is reduced pound for pound in accordance with my wage.


    If PIP is cut, I am forced to work, and possibly could lose my car. this will affect so much, both mentally and physically I have MS and stress is simply the worst.

    I am so worried.


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    · 1 hours ago
    I am in the middle of the forced transfer to UC. I have an incomplete C4 to T1 SCI and am so stressed I'm not sleeping, pain level is way up. I only find out on Monday what my first payment will be on Friday which is not time to fix it if they screw it up as we have to use this silly journal system and even my Doctor says I am unemployable as I have no idea what tomorrow will be like till tomorrow.
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    · 1 hours ago
    I have just had to complete a PIP renewal form even though my award is not ending until January 2026. Does this mean my application will be targeted with the new rules they are trying to bring in ?
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      · 7 minutes ago
      @Slb My husband’s is just 2 months into the new rules 😞
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      · 10 minutes ago
      @Allyson Hi Allyson, it should be good for you I think, I’m pretty sure you’ll be assessed in the old criteria. 
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      · 22 minutes ago
      @MrFibro Yes.  So guess when I should get mine?.  The same month that the changes go live!  Grrŕr.
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      · 26 minutes ago
      @Allyson I think they admin 6 months in advance. I have Attendance Allowance payable until May 2027 (beyond possibly) but I've told the review of my ongoing condition will commence in December 2026.
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      · 26 minutes ago
      @Allyson No.  Old rules this time around.
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    · 1 hours ago

    I wrote to my MP in early May about the Bill and was surprised to actually receive a full response with a copy of a letter he had sent to Liz Kendall  which includes some relevant questions he posed to her. 
    He made some quite clear arguments about his constituents concerns and about the fact that he did not believe a Labour government  elected on promises of ensuring UC was at a level to reduce poverty and reliance on emergency food,  direct quote 

    "In my view, therefore, the proposed cuts to social security not only break these promises, but will also have a devastating impact on those already in precarious positions, many of whom would like to work if they had the right support.

    This is not right, and it is not the promise the Government made to the public."

    I was impressed at the amount of detail and the fact it was not a bland copy and paste auto reply.

    I can't believe how far we as a country have fallen , I have kept his reply in case it is useful to others







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    · 1 hours ago
    I have worked since 15 years old and became too ill to work at 52. I am now 62 and been pushed over to uc, I'll be 65 when my review is done,  I will be in severe poverty,  this is an attack on disabled people,  this government doesn't seem to care 💔 
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      · 25 minutes ago
      @JCC Very sorry to read this.. so so many in this boat..I’m sure you explore every survival trick ..I now share a ready meal ( disabled so cooking not possible) and add stodge.. best wishes 
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    · 1 hours ago
    This is just another exercise to rail-road the vulnerable, pensioners and the disabled.
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    · 1 hours ago
    I feel sick to the bone and dread this news.  Not only are they destroying the core PIP, but along with LWRCA (UC) and Carers allowance in one massive go! This will be a huge income loss for many disabled people. So the government is happy to kick people to the gutters if they can't afford basic food and shelter.
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      · 30 minutes ago
      @Joe Blogs I know,I'm one of those people, but it's cbesa with me,I can't claim uc because my husband has savings,I have none so I'm going to be left totally dependent on another person for survival, this is abuse in my opinion, abuse of the ability to support yourself and stay alive on you own,I really don't think they're even recognising this issue or they just don't care

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