Pip medical

So today I've received a copy of my pip report , I nearly died of shock that everything I told the assessor had been twisted and the report contradicts itself immensely. I was on dla higher rate care and mobility component for an indefinite period .

If they do make a descision based on this report I shall receive stardard rate for both . I rand the pip office and they have said a descision hasn't been made but due to my distress they are requesting someone call me back within 5 days and marked it urgent .

Is the descision solely made on the report only ? ?

They have pages and pages from my consultants & I even sent my dla report that was completed by a gp for atos 3 years ago .

The occupation therapist ( assesor ) is more or less saying reports from 3 orthopaedic surgeons & a neurologist numerous scan results etc are inaccurate !!

Okay then ... When she was here she told me not to worry as she could see how much my dla /pip affected my life , even seeing herself out so I didn't have to get up .

Throughout the assessment I was very emotional crying continually and was bordering on panic attacks that my mum from the other room came in twice , in the report she hasn't stated any of this and her observations were that I was happy throughout .

Can anyone advise or help me ?

Lpen80 wrote: So today I've received a copy of my pip report , I nearly died of shock that everything I told the assessor had been twisted and the report contradicts itself immensely. I was on dla higher rate care and mobility component for an indefinite period .

If they do make a descision based on this report I shall receive stardard rate for both . I rand the pip office and they have said a descision hasn't been made but due to my distress they are requesting someone call me back within 5 days and marked it urgent .

Is the descision solely made on the report only ? ?

They have pages and pages from my consultants & I even sent my dla report that was completed by a gp for atos 3 years ago .

The occupation therapist ( assesor ) is more or less saying reports from 3 orthopaedic surgeons & a neurologist numerous scan results etc are inaccurate !!

Okay then ... When she was here she told me not to worry as she could see how much my dla /pip affected my life , even seeing herself out so I didn't have to get up .

Throughout the assessment I was very emotional crying continually and was bordering on panic attacks that my mum from the other room came in twice , in the report she hasn't stated any of this and her observations were that I was happy throughout .

Can anyone advise or help me ?

Hi Lp80,

Welcome to Benefits and Work

"So today I've received a copy of my pip report , I nearly died of shock that everything I told the assessor had been twisted and the report contradicts itself immensely. I was on dla higher rate care and mobility component for an indefinite period ."

I am afraid that this is not at all unusual !

You need to take on board that the qualifying criteria for DLA and PIP differ significantly, and a claimant could quite legitimately qualify for DLA awards, and not qualify for PIP awards at all, or qualify for a lesser PIP award.

"If they do make a descision based on this report I shall receive stardard rate for both . I rand the pip office and they have said a descision hasn't been made but due to my distress they are requesting someone call me back within 5 days and marked it urgent "

If they do ring you back, which is not a definite, you should be prepared with any arguments that you have to counter the Assessor's recommendations.

You could make some notes in anticipation of the call.

If they do not call, you can do little until you receive the PIP Decision Notice letter through the post.

"Is the descision solely made on the report only ? ?"

It shouldn't be, The DWP PIP Case Manager (DM) should take all evidence that they have access to into account, including your evidence and the Assessor's recommendations made within The PA4 Medical Report.

The DM is then supposed to make a decision on "the balance of probabilities" taking all evidence into account.

I am afraid that in reality, at this time, DM's seem to be "rubber stamping" the PIP Assessor's recommendations.

You should take into account that the PIP DM is not medically qualified at all, so the easier that you can make it for them to understand the limitations that you suffer as a result of your medical conditions, and how those limitations score you the required points under the appropriate scoring PIP Descriptor for each applicable PIP Activity, the better your chance of success.

You may want to look through the the information from the links further down my post so that you can review how and why you should receive the correct PIP awards in preparation for the phone call, if it happens.

You can then pose any counter arguments to the PIP Assessors recommendations, for example if they are stating that you can carry out a particular PIP Activity, has it been taken into account that to be classed as being able to carry out a PIP Activity, you must be able to do so Reliably and Safely for The Majority of Days

If the Assessor has stated that they witnessed you Walking a set distance have they taken into account the above, the time it took you to do so, and any pain, discomfort and breathless, etc that you may have suffered whilst doing so ? etc, etc, etc !!

If the phone call does not take place or your receive an adverse PIP decision notice letter, your preparation will not be wasted anyway !!

Whatever happens, the following generic advice may help you prepare for the eventuality of receiving an adverse PIP Decision :

You will have one month from the date of the PIP Decision Notice letter to make a written request for a Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) of the PIP decision.

Sending Documents to the DWP.

You should be aware that when you request an MR, any current PIP Awards, Daily Living and/or Mobility, that you might have, can be increased, reduced or taken away altogether, as they will look at the whole PIP Awards afresh.

Obviously if you have no current PIP Award, there is no risk involved.

See : PIP MR/Appeals Guidance.

Disability Rights UK Factsheet - Appeals and Mandatory Reconsiderations.

Once you have gone through The MR Process, if you are still unsuccessful, you have one month from the date of The MR Decision Notice Letter to appeal directly to The Tribunal Service. (TS)

You should do this using copy of The MR Notice letter and the : SSCS 1 Form (Download Link)

All this is explained in our PIP Appeals Guidance

You should concentrate on reiterating where and why you should have scored the extra points with respect to the applicable PIP Activities and the appropriate scoring PIP Descriptor for that Activity, whilst cross-referencing to any medical evidence that you have, or may have already provided which indicates that you should have.

You should receive points for the highest scoring Descriptor that you fulfil from each applicable PIP Activity !

See also : PIP Self Test

PIP Points Scoring System

&

PIP Claims Guide. (2nd Link down the page)

Hopefully the advice above regarding the MR/Appeals process will be superfluous as you will receive the correct awards.

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Please keep us updated

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Thank you for your advice .. There so much wrong with it it's unbelievable . It's as if she's cherry picked what I've told her and just noted half a story . My son even noted she stated I love with my husband and 17 year old son .. He's 16 so straight away we knew it wasn't going to be accurate !! Petty I know but it's my life in her hands .
I've highlighted all areas I don't agree with , all previous reports state I need help with medication for example , I take over 40 tablets a day and am away with the fairies with side effects sleeping a lot and in servers pain . She seems to think I don't require help with medication even though My husband and mum come over 3/4 times daily to manage medication while they are at work . Another was the mobility , I scored 10 points but once again she contradicts herself , she states at the beginning of the report she feels I cannot walk more than 5-10 metres yet the option she chose was 20-50 metres . Also going out , it's simple I don't ! They arranged a home visit due to my health and anxiety - she feels I don't have any anxiety problems . I don't attend appointments unless someone can take and come with me , if they can't then simple I won't go due to the stress / panick and incontinence issue . My hips dislocate with no notice so it's just safer to stay at home . She's tricked me at the medical by asking if I ever attended hospital alone , I told her honestly I had only attended one alone but rang ahead to outpatients and a nurse met me at the door where my husband escorted me too . She's stated I attend appointments alone . I feel there is more than enough evidence to challenge them . Every consultant / letter I provided them with stated I was alway upset and very anxious . I won't give in without a fight or be bullied by them X

I won't give in without a fight or be bullied by them X

Thats the attitude to have! People post on here every day with severe problems with the DWP.
The important thing to remember is plenty of them also post their success!!
Its totally unfair and shameful for a country like the UK to be so uncaring and discriminatory against its own citizens. They even have the UN investigating them!!

It sounds like you have a very strong case. Assessors frequently lie, make things up and twist things claimants tell them. I find it utterly repugnant that anyone could do that for a living.

You have to be prepared for the MR to just rubberstamp the decision and you will need to attend a hearing in front of an independent panel to get your proper award. Please try to stay strong.

So I've written up in preparation to dispute the h/p findings . 4 questions being disputed in total and I have 3 pages written for just the going out following and planning journeys . Going into detail that I told the h/p specifically and that the whole of her finding are completely fabricated and untrue . Is 3 pages too much ? Sorry to clog up the forum , I just want to get it right . X

Hi
I don't think 3 pages is too much.
Just be sure you concentrate on using your evidence and don't let it descend into a rant against the assessor. It must be tempting but facts and evidence is better than dissing the assessor.