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- bro58
francine73 wrote: Thanks Gordon.
Plenty to think about but my gut instinct right now is to go with the flow especially if they do indeed take medical problems into account for WRA.
francine
Hi f73,
They "should" take medical problems into account for WRA.
We have had good and bad feedback from members regarding this. It seems that it is dependent on the individual that you may deal with.
I would advise that you inform them in writing at your earliest opportunity of any reasonable adjustments that you may need with respect to taking part in WRA.
bro58
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- francine73
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The only WRA mentioned in the decision letter is "work-focussed interviews with a personal adviser" and the possibility of a health-related assessment.
Is there anywhere I can find a list of all work-related activities I might be expected to participate in that aren't mentioned in the letter?
francine
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- bro58
francine73 wrote: Bro58, thanks.
The only WRA mentioned in the decision letter is "work-focussed interviews with a personal adviser" and the possibility of a health-related assessment.
Is there anywhere I can find a list of all work-related activities I might be expected to participate in that aren't mentioned in the letter?
francine
Hi f73,
Yes, WFI's are part of WRA, however it is possible that you can then be referred to a Works Programme Provider. (e.g. A4E, Avanta, etc )
Work Focused Health Related Assessments, (WFHRA) have been suspended for some time, and there are currently no plans to reinstate them.
See :
Work Focused Interviews
The Work Programme
&
Changes to ESA Sanctions
Whether they "Park" you or "Cream" you, as that is the terminology that they use, will depend on whether they think that they can get you into employment, and subsequently, whether there is any money to be made by them doing this.
bro58
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- francine73
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the more questions I ask, the trickier things seem to get!
Just read a post on site from someone who ran into trouble with HB&CT after being awarded both CB and IR, which is what I have been awarded.
Q. Am I supposed to notify HB that I've been moved from IB to ESA? The amount I'm receiving is the same as it was on IB and there will be no gaps in payment.
Q. I re-read the decision letter too and it says this: "C-B ESA can be paid for a maximum of 365 days unless you are in the support group. I've also heard that it can continue to be paid if you receive income-based ESA. Now I'm confused about which is correct, maybe the DWP is just trying to scare me?
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- bro58
francine73 wrote: thanks Bro58,
the more questions I ask, the trickier things seem to get!
Just read a post on site from someone who ran into trouble with HB&CT after being awarded both CB and IR, which is what I have been awarded.
Q. Am I supposed to notify HB that I've been moved from IB to ESA? The amount I'm receiving is the same as it was on IB and there will be no gaps in payment.
Q. I re-read the decision letter too and it says this: "C-B ESA can be paid for a maximum of 365 days unless you are in the support group. I've also heard that it can continue to be paid if you receive income-based ESA. Now I'm confused about which is correct, maybe the DWP is just trying to scare me?
francine
Hi f73,
A good indication of whether you are in receipt of CB ESA and IR ESA would be if you were previously in receipt of IB with an IS addition.
This IS addition could have been paid as well as the IB due to the fact that you are also receiving DLA Higher or Middle Rate Care.
If you were receiving IS with your IB, then unless your financial situation with respect to household income, assets, savings and capital has changed then you should receive the equivalent IR ESA under Transitional Protection.
What will I be paid?
What will I be transferred to?
Normally, if your situation is as above, you should not have to contact HB or CT Departments.
However, HB and CT departments are currently in turmoil due to bedroom tax appeals etc, so it would do no harm to put something in writing.
Your letter could well be a generic pro forma letter, that is not personal to you.
If any part of your ESA is IR ESA then there is no 365 day limit to payment whilst in The WRAG.
You could confirm whether or not any part of your ESA is IR ESA by contacting The DWP.
bro58
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- Gordon
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francine73 wrote: Q. I re-read the decision letter too and it says this: "C-B ESA can be paid for a maximum of 365 days unless you are in the support group. I've also heard that it can continue to be paid if you receive income-based ESA. Now I'm confused about which is correct, maybe the DWP is just trying to scare me?
At the risk of confusing you more, they are both correct

If you remain in the WRAG then your ESA(CB) will stop after 365 days, but if you are also eligible for ESA(IR) then you can be swapped to that and continue to receive payments.
If you are moved to the Support Group, either because of an appeal or a re-assessment, then the time limit will not apply and you can continue to receive ESA(CB) while you remain in the group.
Gordon
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