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5 years 9 months ago #233722 by CLINTIAN
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Hi Gordon & colleagues, this question is baffling me, my husband suffers with anxiety, distress and I also protect him and others from harm, now for the majority of times I try to be with him when going out but he does try to get out successfully by himself for a couple of days in the week, I am confused at the tick boxes, if he ticks yes then explain that I for the majority of time is with my husband to keep him safe etc, does he score points for ticking yes or sometimes ? And I assume that ticking no implies that he can go out and score zero points? Thank you once again.
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5 years 9 months ago #233737 by BIS
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Hi Bodge1
This question is asking does his mental state prevent him from going out. If for the majority of the time he cannot go out (regardless of whether you are there to accompany him) the answer is YES. If he can sometimes go out (with or without you) the answer would be sometimes.
However, the most important thing is what you say in the box below. It's important for you to describe the impact of his mental health on going out. If you are still uncertain which box to tick - just write beside those boxes 'see below' and leave them blank.
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This question is asking does his mental state prevent him from going out. If for the majority of the time he cannot go out (regardless of whether you are there to accompany him) the answer is YES. If he can sometimes go out (with or without you) the answer would be sometimes.
However, the most important thing is what you say in the box below. It's important for you to describe the impact of his mental health on going out. If you are still uncertain which box to tick - just write beside those boxes 'see below' and leave them blank.
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5 years 9 months ago #233774 by CLINTIAN
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Hi Gordon & colleagues, im considering which of these options would be more affective:-
1. one example of one day when Going out to include, in the house, then going out until going home
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2. A few say two or three examples of problems in getting out for various days, and examples of problems when outside going out to places, thank you so much once again.
1. one example of one day when Going out to include, in the house, then going out until going home
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2. A few say two or three examples of problems in getting out for various days, and examples of problems when outside going out to places, thank you so much once again.
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5 years 9 months ago #233775 by Gordon
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Forgive me but I do not understand your examples.
Descriptors (b) and (e) are about whether you can leave the house or not, they are not concerned with your getting to somewhere if you do.
Assessors are told that any day that you could at some time during that day leave the house then that day does not count for the Descriptors.
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Forgive me but I do not understand your examples.
Descriptors (b) and (e) are about whether you can leave the house or not, they are not concerned with your getting to somewhere if you do.
Assessors are told that any day that you could at some time during that day leave the house then that day does not count for the Descriptors.
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5 years 9 months ago #233780 by CLINTIAN
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Sorry Gordon, sorry im not good with explaining, my husband struggles for the majority of times with anxiety and stress at the thought of going out and possibly getting into trouble , now the odd times he does go out I try to be with him to help supervise him from danger etc. I was thinking of providing small examples of both, or any advise from yourself would be welcome, sorry for confusing things, its me, thanks for a great service you provide.
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5 years 9 months ago #233786 by Gordon
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The key issue is whether he suffers "overwhelming psychological distress" when he is faced with going out, anxiety and distress are unlikely to be considered as sufficiently severe to meet this criteria.
As to what you should describe on the form, it really depends on which Descriptor you are aiming for, for both I would explain the issues he has going out, if you are aiming for (b) then explain how you are able to help him overcome these problems so that he can go out with you, if you are aiming for (e) then I would be cautious of including this information as it may well undermine your argument that he cannot go out.
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The key issue is whether he suffers "overwhelming psychological distress" when he is faced with going out, anxiety and distress are unlikely to be considered as sufficiently severe to meet this criteria.
As to what you should describe on the form, it really depends on which Descriptor you are aiming for, for both I would explain the issues he has going out, if you are aiming for (b) then explain how you are able to help him overcome these problems so that he can go out with you, if you are aiming for (e) then I would be cautious of including this information as it may well undermine your argument that he cannot go out.
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