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2 years 1 month ago #283204 by Yumi
Anyone used AI, Artificial Intelligence for applications? DLA/PIP/UC50 etc was created by Yumi
I have cautiously started using Chat GPT and other AI programmes to generate answers to complete applications got disability related benefits applications.
So far, it seems that the quality of the generated answers depends on the details given in the prompt (instructions you create) given to the AI.
Although some initial answers were worse than useless, as I have learned to improve prompts, the AI has given very good answers.
Once I got better at creating the prompts I found:
However, this took a lot of trial and error and using a LOT of the info from the B&W guides. At the very lease, I think this gives some help to get started when you're burned out and have looming deadlines!
So far, it seems that the quality of the generated answers depends on the details given in the prompt (instructions you create) given to the AI.
Although some initial answers were worse than useless, as I have learned to improve prompts, the AI has given very good answers.
Once I got better at creating the prompts I found:
- AI can rewrite bullet points into a good narrative.
AI can reorder and organise jumbled thoughts
AI can generate symptoms of conditions
AI can generate side effects of medication and how it affects daily living activities
AI can create good information about comorbidity
In some cases, AI has generated new information which fits the claimant, but the claimant had not though to mention, or had never considered that way.
However, this took a lot of trial and error and using a LOT of the info from the B&W guides. At the very lease, I think this gives some help to get started when you're burned out and have looming deadlines!
- Has anybody else tried using AI?
How successful were you? How good were the responses?
What impact do you think AI will have on applications?
Does AI encourage people to lie or exaggerate?
(Or give them the means/know-how to lie or exaggerate?)
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2 years 1 month ago #283208 by Chocolady
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Thats very interesting.
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2 years 1 month ago #283217 by BIS
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Hi Yumi
I use AI a lot, but I haven't yet helped anyone fill out a PIP application using it. I have no doubt it is being used already and will become commonplace for some people. However, I would say use it cautiously in that you have to be clear about the errors it makes, and it can give a very false impression of a claimant's capabilities, which could then be held against them. It could also tempt people into describing things that affect 'some people' but not them, but the claimant is tempted to include it because they think it improves their chances of getting an award.
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I use AI a lot, but I haven't yet helped anyone fill out a PIP application using it. I have no doubt it is being used already and will become commonplace for some people. However, I would say use it cautiously in that you have to be clear about the errors it makes, and it can give a very false impression of a claimant's capabilities, which could then be held against them. It could also tempt people into describing things that affect 'some people' but not them, but the claimant is tempted to include it because they think it improves their chances of getting an award.
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1 day 9 hours ago #310413 by Stella Masters
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I gave AI a whirl recently, as the PIPs are up plus I’m autoimmune and pathetically ill and rag-doll floppy in the winter bug season. Searched ‘PIP Application’ for [my list of conditions] on chatgpt and it gave unexpectedly accurate templates to personalise for each descriptor., taking much of the sweat and tears out of it. It even made a couple of connections I hadn’t considered before! Obviously you still need the IRL medical evidence etc, but used wisely this seems like it could be a very welcome lightening of the load.
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15 hours 24 minutes ago #310437 by latetrain
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I spoke to a client last week who used chatgpt to help with his PIP MR and was successful, he was the first client I had come across who had used chatgpt the free version.
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I spoke to a client last week who used chatgpt to help with his PIP MR and was successful, he was the first client I had come across who had used chatgpt the free version.
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14 hours 5 minutes ago #310446 by DazedandConfused
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I have used it extensively because ADHD/Disorganised brain etc etc means its a nightmare for me. Its been very useful in me making my notes, telling it what I want to say then adding more bits in - forgetting stuff and not having to rewrite it and it organises, sorts and puts it into an organised format that is much easier for people to read, also great at looking at applicable laws and guidelines etc etc and because my autistic way of speaking is very "aggressive/blunt" sounding or " scattered* it allows me to tone it down to sound what I want to sound like which is assertive and not aggressive/blunt - I use the free version. I have to admit its really good quality but, you do need to read it carefully afterwards as it does make mistakes sometimes.
heres an excerpt from my complaint with some things adjusted so its not recognisable
I wrote what I wanted to say, chatgpt organised it and added the laws I asked for and to point out the guidelines that I feel were missed. I didn't just tell it to write it from scratch as then its not really me its just an AI written thing if you see what I mean?
5. Failure to recognise and accommodate cognitive and executive functioning difficulties.
The assessor appeared to disregard the concept of the blankeyblanks, where strengths in one area (such as verbal ability) coexist with significant deficits in others (such as organisation, memory, or practical functioning).
My articulate speech was mistaken for overall capability, overlooking the significant difficulties I described. Being able to speak clearly does not mean I can plan, organise, or carry out complex tasks.
Many people with profound physical or cognitive disabilities communicate in ways that do not reflect their internal abilities or struggles.
- For example, Professor Stephen Hawking was unable to speak or move independently, yet was among the most intelligent minds in history.
In the same way fluency or intelligence does not remove the disabling effects of executive dysfunction in ADHD/Autism.
This misunderstanding led to an inaccurate picture of my daily functioning.
It also conflicts with the blanketyblank and NICE on the recognition of blanketyblank-related impairments, as well as with the PIP Assessment Guide’s requirement that assessors have appropriate training and understanding of the conditions they assess.
Under blankeyblanks own policies and the DWP Safeguarding Guidance, assessors have a duty to ensure that vulnerable claimants are treated with dignity and that their mental health is not put at risk.
This duty was not met.
anyway you get the idea, personally speaking I wanted to rip them to pieces but ofc that might make me feel better in the short term but its not going to help me long term so chatgpt was able to allow me to rephrase things in a more `appropriate` way rather than me using a lot of nasty language and calling them everything under the sun whilst telling them where to stick their......blankeyblanks where the sun don't shine.. you get the idea I think
heres an excerpt from my complaint with some things adjusted so its not recognisable
5. Failure to recognise and accommodate cognitive and executive functioning difficulties.
The assessor appeared to disregard the concept of the blankeyblanks, where strengths in one area (such as verbal ability) coexist with significant deficits in others (such as organisation, memory, or practical functioning).
My articulate speech was mistaken for overall capability, overlooking the significant difficulties I described. Being able to speak clearly does not mean I can plan, organise, or carry out complex tasks.
Many people with profound physical or cognitive disabilities communicate in ways that do not reflect their internal abilities or struggles.
- For example, Professor Stephen Hawking was unable to speak or move independently, yet was among the most intelligent minds in history.
In the same way fluency or intelligence does not remove the disabling effects of executive dysfunction in ADHD/Autism.
This misunderstanding led to an inaccurate picture of my daily functioning.
It also conflicts with the blanketyblank and NICE on the recognition of blanketyblank-related impairments, as well as with the PIP Assessment Guide’s requirement that assessors have appropriate training and understanding of the conditions they assess.
Under blankeyblanks own policies and the DWP Safeguarding Guidance, assessors have a duty to ensure that vulnerable claimants are treated with dignity and that their mental health is not put at risk.
This duty was not met.
anyway you get the idea, personally speaking I wanted to rip them to pieces but ofc that might make me feel better in the short term but its not going to help me long term so chatgpt was able to allow me to rephrase things in a more `appropriate` way rather than me using a lot of nasty language and calling them everything under the sun whilst telling them where to stick their......blankeyblanks where the sun don't shine.. you get the idea I think
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