Citizens Advice (CA) have condemned the government’s Pathways To Work Green Paper in a hard hitting report of their own, entitled ‘Pathways To Poverty’.

The opening paragraph gives a clear indication of the anger and frustration inside an organisation whose workload is likely to be massively increased by the effects of the planned reforms:

“By refusing to properly consult on its plan to cut billions from disability benefits, the government is choosing not to ask questions it doesn’t want the answers to. The cuts will have a devastating impact on disabled people (and their children), sending hundreds of thousands into poverty, and many more into deeper poverty. This will result from a series of arbitrary reforms that have been designed around savings targets rather than improving outcomes, inflicting hardship on people in ways that the government doesn’t yet fully understand.”

The 44 page report is carefully researched and referenced and draws together information from other reports, some of the many Freedom of Information Act requests that have been published and the experiences of its own advisers and clients.

One of the things it argues is that the impacts of the proposals are likely to be worse than the government suggests, because:

  • The government used a dubious sleight of hand to reduce the number of people likely to be pushed into poverty. It counted people who would have been affected by the Tory WCA changes which never happened as having been lifted from poverty they were never actually put in.  So, rather than 250,000 being pushed into relative poverty by Labour, CA thinks it could be as many as 400,000.
  • The Green Paper doesn’t attempt to work out how many people will lose both PIP and the UC health element as a result of the changes, or how much they will lose.
  • The government document doesn’t analyse how many people already in poverty will be more deeply entrenched in poverty as a result of the cuts, although an FoI request has suggested this will be 700,000 people.

Pathways To Poverty goes through the effects of restricting PIP eligibility, cutting the UC health element and making PIP daily living the gateway to UC health.

It argues that the cuts could push people further from work, rather than helping them into employment.

It concludes by saying:

The government must reconsider its current approach. We are calling on the government to cancel proposed cuts to disability benefits. More immediately, we’re asking the government to:

  • Reverse the decision not to consult on cuts to disability benefits.
  • Delay parliamentary votes on disability benefit cuts until all relevant impact assessments have been published. This should include the impact on other public services and the voluntary sector, and estimated employment outcomes from measures proposed in the green paper.

The report is a must read for anyone campaigning on this issue and should be compulsory reading for any MP voting on it – though sadly they are the least likely group to ever open its pages.

You can download a copy of Pathways to Poverty here.

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    · 8 days ago
    I foresee multiple court cases. How can they possibly force medically retired people to look for work?? 
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    · 9 days ago
    Sorry for posting again but the latest news is confirming the Government's so called u turn on pensioners and winter fuel. Any talk of they have realised it was unfair is nonsense. After the bashing Labour got in the local elections they know that there will be no 2nd term in power for them if they continue with their plans to cut welfare. 
    Starmer and more likely his mps are terrified of losing more voter support and of course their very lucrative jobs. They know that older people vote much more than younger people they are desperate that older voters forgive them and bring their votes back.
    There is only silence at present on proposed changes to disability welfare such the 4 point pip nightmare. They still plan to push their vile policies through but as they have shown with winter fuel payments they retreat if they feel they are losing voters support.
    I know I have posted it before but the only way I can see to get them to abandon their plans to remove most of us of pip and then Esa is to make sure if you have a Labour mp write or email them tell them you need your welfare benefits to survive,their is no way you can work due to your health and if Labour continue to attack us with phoney welfare changes they will never get your vote again. I know that voting in elections often seems pointless but I'm afraid it is the only thing we have to fight back.
    Please use your votes in any possible election to send a message that if they don't support us we will not support them. If we send the message loud enough they will backdown if we don't they will continue with the changes and so many of us will lose out. They will not back down unless we push back. They don't care what happens to you as long as you are off benefits.
    Expect no decency or pity from them they only care about one thing their careers.
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    · 11 days ago
    Well finally I’ve been called for my assessment for PIP. It’s only 14 months since I submitted the review documents. I live in Kidlington that’s 5 miles from Oxford. The review is in Milton Keynes that 34 miles away. I don’t drive because my license is suspended indefinitely because I blackout. To go my train I need someone to travel with me as I’ve been told not travel alone. The train is Oxford to Coventry and then to Milton Keyes thats £134 for two return. So it’s a city taxi £176 including 2 hours waiting and that’s a special price because I use them often. I can only assume that Milton is the second choice venue if Oxford is oversubscribed. It’s total madness sometimes. If you’re not very mobile why send you that far away. But I have heard of worse. There’s no logic to any of it. Gaz
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      · 11 days ago
      @Gazmo66 I think you can claim your fares back ? I did for an appeal . Not for the person with me though 
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    · 13 days ago
    Citizens Advice appear to have used a incorrect figure. 
    Citizens Advice report "Currently, there are over 42,000 people who claim UC health but not PIP daily living."
    IFS "Currently, 600,000 people qualify for the health element of UC but do not receive PIP."
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    · 13 days ago
    I can already feel what little light and happiness draining from my life.
    I'm in the process of moving from Esa to Uc. Only I'll still get Esa well with a giant drop from £481.10 to £281.10 fortnightly. Only they've not finished with me. As the nearly halved Esa will reduce what I can get on Uc. So I will carry on loosing. I can't see me being to pay my bills. So less then half the money and a mountain of debt. 
    I was born with spastic diplegia walk with a frame or a stick. I fall a lot I count it as a good day when I can get up using anything I can drag myself to. Also I'm being treated far differently then friends who were receiving the same amount of Esa who are better off on Uc.  I can feel my depression getting deeper at the thought of the cuts to my benefits. They said people would not be worse off. 
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      · 12 days ago
      @Delphine Income based ESA has a severe disability premium. UC does not. They should get transitional protection top up to their UC. So their New Style ESA + UC including any Housing Element is equal to their legacy benefit entitlement contributions based ESA + income based ESA + Housing Benefit. 

      The transitional protection means their UC will not increase until their UC entitlement under the new system is more than than their transactional protected legacy amount of UC. And if they pay rent then as their rent rises and UC housing element increases the amount they get after rent will decrease in cash terms despite having transitional protection. As the protected amount is inclusive of housing support, not after housing support. 


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      · 13 days ago
      @Sandysue. Why is it being cut? Did they say why?
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    · 13 days ago
    Several governments ago The unemployment rate was seen as to high Unable to reduce the amount of unemployed Some were then moved to claiming other benefits mainly sick/disability benefits Hey presto unemployment reduced The government saved money in the unemployment pot But only to pay it out from another pot instead Then came reducing the amount paid by changing the benefits claimed each time reducing the amount payable for that benefit Until finally PIP was in the line of fire As all those people moved from other benefits long ago had swelled and this government thinks it is time to cull the amount of people claiming PIP These people will not disappear But will be helped by a different pot of money Like the NHS or cash strapped councils Along with many charities clearing up the mess Helping people back to work piffle This is all about book keeping and just moving those who are ill/disabled from one government pot to another Or even better let a non government body clear up the mess What is best for the ill/disabled is never part of the equation As for how many people will be impacted by these changes When have you ever known a government get that right ? As they always use the figure which puts them in the best light depending if that needs to be a high or low figure Whatever happens this decision is going to impact on a lot of families Not just the individual claiming PIP
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    · 14 days ago
    This is the destruction of the welfare state. They came for asylum seekers in 1996; they took income from the poorest families with the two child policy; and now they remove benefits from the disabled en masse. I have worked my whole life—from Saturday jobs aged 14; through to leaving an abusive home and supporting myself in squats and working in bars at 16 to now—when I work part time because of disability acquired in an accident at work. Their hypocrisy is exposed as they cure me from being workshy apparently by removing the benefit that pays some of my extra costs of Disability that allow me to manage to work at all. 
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      · 12 days ago
      @Elane Hi their Elane I wanted to say thank for your post particularly your genuine understanding that our political classes either left or right like to point attention on to the poor and vulnerable and use them as distractions and scapegoats.
      It is particularly courageous of you to raise asylum seekers not as the threat they portrayed as. The like us are people unlucky enough to be poor and vulnerable.
      The politicians love to scapegoat groups and use as distractions while they fail totally in their elected roles.Refugees and Asylum seekers are targeted as we the disabled and poor are.
      They never seem to have any thing to say over millionaires,billionaires and huge corporate businesses who do anything to avoid taxes. It's these people that hang on to and drain away the wealth of the country.
      Thank you for your post it gave me a bit of hope.

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    · 14 days ago
    Well all of this was never about the disabled it was about who and how they the government could plunder money from with the least fallout. How they have the audacity to target the disabled to effect a cost saving of £5.9billion and then 3 weeks later say they intend spending 15billion on defence and another 2 billion on transport and to cap it all in the meantime GIVE £1.6billion in military equipment and aid to Ukraine is beyond me. Caring government don’t make me laugh!. This is an exercises in theft plain and simple. First the disabled and then pensioners. It’s disgusting. Gary

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    · 14 days ago
    So scared worked all my life, 15yrs to 58yrs, now 61yrs.then stroke, heart problems, complex ptsd, fybromyalga, ME, endocrine problems.,finished on medical gowns by NHS, if my pip and esa stops.. The only way forward for me would be suicide.. 
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      · 11 days ago
      @Losing hope I totally feel suicidal already. This would defo push me over the edge. The gov hve caused many of the sickness wth pollution. No green parks expensive healthy food and targeted road charges. On top of that they pay themselves handsomely.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Kimberley Me too 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Losing hope I feel exactly the same. Be easier not to exist.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Losing hope And Me 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Losing hope Exactly the days of the caring society are long gone. Very sad to hear of your plight. Best to wait and see the outcome. ESA will continue until the day you first claim your state pension. If you haven’t done it already put in for pension credit online 16 weeks or 4 calendar months before your state pension retirement date. As for PIP I’ve been told that nothing was to change until November 2026 but you can’t really believe this government and the DWP unless it’s in writing. But that’s what they are telling me and I’m a Labour Party member . So sit tight and let’s hope common sense prevails. Gary
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    · 14 days ago
    I have sent a copy of this report to my Labour MP. 
    I'm not holding my breath, he makes excuses for this sickening attack on the disabled and ill.
    I did remined my MP about Rachel Reeves 2015 Independent Newspaper interview stating "Labour does not want to represent people out of work" And how she is making good on this by not representing OAP's the Disabled and the unemployed. He made no comment on the interview , surprise. here's the link


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    · 14 days ago
    Not to mention the potential changes to ESA contributions based which equally be just as punishing for those who can't claim UC. Labour are the new evil party.
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      · 13 days ago
      @Mad Si Even more evil than the last lot. Which I find not only incredible, but very worrying.
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    · 14 days ago
    Great report but disappointing that yet again there is no mention of the changes to ESA to become time limited. Those of us on NS ESA, in the support group so unable to work, and not entitled to UC, WILL LOSE OUR WHOLE BENEFIT. Then if we lose PIP as well, we literally will have nothing.
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      · 13 days ago
      @Cobra29 @Cobra29     I’ve heard that it will be eroded over time but I don’t really understand how that works? Could you explain it to me please ?
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      · 14 days ago
      @K Totally agree, nobody seems to be talking about this or the fact that if you do move from ESA to UC and get the migration protection because there is no Severe disability premium under UC. This will be eroded and many of the most severely disabled people will be thousands worse off each year. But its not even mentioned,, even on here? 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Rum truffle I agree, no one seems to be talking about this at all
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    · 14 days ago
    One of the worst things I ever did voting for labour.They are much worse than the tories ever were.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Carole I told people don't vote labour you thought tories were bad labour are worse and I was proven right 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Mrs Smith We’ll reform like the Tory chancellor of old wants to scrap all benefits entirely. Then the whole country will be worse off. Pensioners, disabled, scrapping child benefits everything. The rest of world is embracing the 21st century and here in the UK we are returning to the 1800’s 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Carole Reform will be far worse IMO, Farage is Trumps understudy and is currently being prepared for the next Prime Minister role with the backing of billionaires. Trump is cutting all equality and diversity spending in USA, the same will happen in the UK and those losing benefits will be packed off to build armaments for the next war or conscripted to the army or similar.
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    · 14 days ago
    Here's an article in the Morning Star which goes into the CAB report in more depth. It also quotes from Benefits and Work at the end of the article:
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    · 14 days ago
    It’s important to remember not everyone gets PIP. I am concerned that too much focus is on this and not the health element of UC which is being used as a cash cow for other cuts. I don’t get PIP. The corpse test will make it impossible and then there is 4 months to wait. 

    Making disabled people shovel dung for breadcrumbs isn’t going to work or last. Penny wise pound foolish and ignorant uncaring DWP are just useless.
    They provide no help or support. I overheard one complaining about not getting her bonus for shifting the sludge at the bottom of the barrel (me)

    It’s time the government stopped wasting billions and using us as scapegoats. They need to make rich pay taxes. They need to get the money back from Covid PPE etc. Drip feeding propaganda to the right wing press should be outlawed too.

    Sorry to rant but I am livid about this evil government it’s attacking the most vulnerable to save money only to waste it on lavish meals and free alcohol and pay rises for MPS 


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      · 14 days ago
      @Grumpy Jim Exactly it won't labour won't ever get in at the next election they have sealed there coffin with what they have done
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      · 14 days ago
      @Gazmo66 I totally agree with you 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Grumpy Jim Well over Christmas Jim it was pension credit online, now they have moved onto PIP and UC. Next it’s ESA there’s a patten here. Next it will child benefits and working class tax credits. Basically anything and everything is up for grabs. When are the British going to realise that unless your working till you die and paying tax your worthless in the eyes of this government. . And when we understand then you can see why we are in bloody mess. They don’t care us any more. 47 years I worked and paid my taxes. Fought for this country and been part of national security for year's and for what?. 
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    · 14 days ago
    just madness how do they think they can just play with peoples lives like this they are going to cause chaos a lot people will be on the streets or even worse and then it’ll be to late to listen or they’ll do a u turn on it this groverment are a joke not one of them party’s are worthy of it. they travel to different countries and talk the talk but do they really listen no! 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Mrs Smith Well there’s no formal independent scrutiny so they can change whatever they like. It’s no good we shall have to go on strike. Sit in’s on all the major roads and rail links . Boycott. They probably won’t let me say this as it’s incitement but because we are disabled they think we can’t retaliate. But we do have a voice and we do need to be heard for sake of ourselves and those generations to come
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      · 14 days ago
      @sam Well that’s all they do is talk . They are all piss and wind. The minimum wage for an MP is £84,000 . What do they know about a poverty. Never been there and will never be there. It’s ridiculous 
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      · 14 days ago
      @sam The focus should be on the Work Capability Assessment as it's the only legal thing that's stopping the government from forcing all disabled and chronically ill back to work
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    · 15 days ago
    I have Mobility issues, Epilepsy, and last year I suffered a stroke, and voted Labour, because I believed they would look after the Disabled, How wrong could I have been. Its all making me feel
    very worried.
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    · 15 days ago
    There has been no proper consultation about this so the government cannot hope to understand how it will affect disabled people.  The questions on the consultation paper were angled so that relevant answers could not be given.  The face to face consultations were an insult, only allowing small numbers of people in, in Manchester many people turned up and the police were called.  I wrote to my MP, who is also the Minister for the DWP, I felt as if he wasn't interested at all in what I had to say.  We are hearing on calls for a lift of the 2 child benefit cap and this is being considered, but is this on the back of cuts for disabled people?  I worked for many years until I was no longer able, I gave up a good salary but the reason I had to stop not only because of failing health but the fact that my employer of many years could not understand why I could no longer work in the same way.  The support from employers and the government is not there.  It is not easy for a disabled person to obtain work anyway and there seems to be a thinking that we should just take any job.  Many disabled people have numerous extra costs that are not readily available on the NHS, or not available when they are needed.  The thought of these cuts are causing added stress to people who are already struggling with life.  Utter disgrace.
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    · 15 days ago
    The proposal is just so wrong and should not be implemented.
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    · 15 days ago
    I spent 20 years frontline service in the police as a Sgt. I’m utterly disgusted with this betrayal by a supposed socialist govt. We rely on pip to get by due to the enormous increase in cost of living. The irony is that my Conservative MP is now openly challenging the Labour Government over its treatment of the most vulnerable in society!!!! 
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      · 14 days ago
      @Mike G Well Mike I was also an IAG volunteer for Thames valley police so know where your coming from on this. Also now a pensioner and disabled failing heart but we are being shafted here and virtually powerless to act. It’s all very sad. 

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