One of the most visited threads on the Benefits and Work forum is a six year old one about claiming PIP for adults with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).

We suspect that many of these visitors are parents looking for information as their child makes the transition from DLA to PIP.

But others may be adults who have had a diagnosis later in life and are trying to discover if there is financial help available in relation to a condition that may have had a profound effect on every aspect of their life.

So, we’ve put together some statistics and other information which we hope will at least demonstrate that there really is a good chance of getting an award of PIP for ADD/ADHD.

And, in fact, if you do get an award, there’s a very good chance it will be at an enhanced rate for at least one component.

PIP claimants with ADD/ADHD

In total, there are 37,784 PIP claimants with ADD/ADHD listed as their main disabling condition according to the DWP’s own statistics.

For comparison, there are 127,399 awards for Autistic Spectrum Disorders and 7,968 for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

In reality, there are probably a great many more claimants for whom ADD/ADHD is a very important factor.  But often a co-existing condition such as depression or anxiety will be selected as their main disabling condition by health professionals who have little experience of ADD/ADHD.

Success rate

The average success rate for all assessed claims for PIP is 53%. 

For ADD/ADHD the success rate is 43%. 

So, a little bit lower than average.

Award rates

Almost everyone who gets PIP for ADD/ADHD gets an award of the daily living component and two thirds get an award of the mobility component.

34% get the enhanced rates of both components.

  • Enhanced daily living 26,699 (71%)
  • Standard daily living 10,200  (27%)
  • Enhanced mobility 14,030 (37%)
  • Standard mobility 11,502 (31%)

Age

Awards are very heavily skewed towards younger claimants, with almost 70% being under 25 years old.

Fewer than 2% are aged 50 or over.

Again, this probably reflects the fact that diagnosis is much more likely in children and that the condition is more likely to be identified now than it was even a few decades ago.

Reasons for awards

There are no statistics which show which activities and descriptors PIP claimants with ADD/ADHD scored points for.

But, because PIP is awarded not because of your condition, but because of the way it affects your daily living and mobility then every claim will be different in any case.

The best way to establish whether you might be eligible for PIP on the basis of ADD/ADHD is to look through this list of PIP activities and think about the ways that your condition affects your ability to carry them out.

  • Preparing food
  • Taking nutrition
  • Managing therapy or monitoring a health condition
  • Washing and bathing
  • Managing toilet needs or incontinence
  • Dressing and undressing
  • Communicating verbally
  • Reading and understanding signs, symbols and words
  • Engaging with other people face-to-face
  • Making budgeting decisions
  • Planning and following journeys
  • Moving around

Remember that you need to be able to complete the activities

  • to a reasonable standard,
  • safely,
  • repeatedly
  • no more than twice as long as it would take a person without a health condition.

Below are some examples of the issues that you might have.

Being easily distracted, a tendency to procrastinate and difficulties with organizing tasks may cause problems in relation to preparing food, washing and bathing and dressing and undressing. Tasks may not get started, you may start but not complete them or they may take you more than twice as long as people without a health condition.

A tendency to hyperfocus may affect activities like taking nutrition, if you become so engrossed in things that you forget to eat. 

Forgetfulness and disorganization may cause problems with managing medication or therapy.

Being impulsive may make budgeting a real problem.

Engaging with other people may be a challenge because of difficulties with turn taking, maintaining concentration and keeping to a topic during conversations.

Planning and following journeys may be challenging because of impulsivity, poor concentration and anxiety.

Legal decisions

There has been very little case law so far in relation to ADD/ADHD and PIP. 

But in DP v Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (PIP): [2017] UKUT 156 (AAC) an upper tribunal judge held that a claimant with ADHD who selected previously worn clothes rather than clean ones and failed to change their underwear from one day to the next might score points for dressing and undressing.

The judge also held that even if the claimant was able to plan their finances effectively they could score points for making budgeting decisions if they then, due to impulsiveness caused by ADHD, spent their money on something else entirely.

Next steps

Claiming PIP for ADHD, or any other condition, isn't easy.

But there are things you can do to greatly increase your chances of getting the right result.

One of them is to use our 140 page guide to PIP claims and reviews, which will support you through every stage of the system.

Because filling in the 37 page PIP2 ‘How your disability affects you’ form in as much detail as possible is vital. It not only means you are giving accurate and consistent evidence from the outset, it also improves your chances of overturning an unfair decision if you have to go to appeal.  Our guide takes you through the PIP2 form, box-by-box, explaining the kind of information you need to put in each one.

Being fully prepared for an assessment is vital too. Knowing what questions you are likely to be asked and what unspoken assumptions may be made based on your answers, unless you deal with them, can make all the difference.  Our guide will ensure you are as ready as you possibly can be.

And if you don’t get the right decision, understanding the mandatory reconsideration and appeal process is crucial.  We have guides that will take you through the entire system and make sure you get the best from it, without unwelcome surprises.

Benefits and Work’s downloadable, step-by-step guides to claims, assessments, reviews, mandatory reconsiderations and appeals have helped many thousands of claimants to get the correct award of PIP. 

And because we’ve been supporting claimants for 20 years and have a community of thousands of members who keep us updated with their experiences, we can make sure you are prepared for any unfair tactics the DWP might employ.

So, whether you are just thinking about making a PIP claim or you are trying to decide whether to challenge an unfair decision, join Benefits and Work to give yourself the best possible chance of success.

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    caz · 8 months ago
    I've heard a few people mention that when (if you get there)you get to the interview stage the person interviewing tries to trip you up or words things in a way like you are making things up. Is this true? Can someone explain or give an example of this? I just want to be prepared if that is the case.
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    adam · 1 years ago
    I attended sn interview with the dwp a few years ago, after appealing the initial decision for limited capability for work. I was that stressed, messed up at the time, and because the security guards reminded me of prison officers, abusers in my experience. I was deeply anxious, which the assessor picked up on, and she vacated the room. Because I've other diagnosis, I could only feel the rejection, abandoned and that I was wrong. The security acted as you would expect. I didn't mean to but out of fear and conditioning I lost it and smashed the room up. Got arrested, had a trial again, wasn't seen, didn't take any of my world view into account;I believe ADHD is social also and created by existing in hostile environments, everyone bring against, it all being your fault and you're effectively the drmon incarnate. I ended up with 18 months, even though I tried to express my difficulties, which they made no attempt to make any adaptations. I'm higher reasoning, really sensitive to empathy, etc. They put me in an environment where I'd already expressed my anxiety about. They're often apathetic, and if was to describe as a personality, must be psychopathic. I font think ADHD is seen as an acceptable mental illness and society reinforces at every opportunity. Hence everyone being against.  The issues are often their's not "ours". They created us. 
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    Faisal · 1 years ago
    I am aged 44, I have diagnoses of dyspraxia ( Aged 33, May 2012), ADHD ( August 2020, aged 41), Aspergers traits ( early 2004, aged 25).
    I had a nervous breakdown, 3 years ago to get my ADHD detected . I did not eat meals , I did not cook meals , did not wash , I did not take medication. 
    I applied for PIP, I got 0 points.
    Should I do a new fresh claim
    based on my nervous breakdown. I heard they review after 2 years ?
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      Jak Warren · 10 months ago
      @Louise What is link I need for help to fill form please
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      Tim B · 1 years ago
      @Faisal Get help with the form from benefits/disability advice agency, and as much new evidence as you can especially from anyone at all especially those official of any kind who knows you- housing/ medical/ educational/religious etc. Then appeal as they usually refuse most of us regardless but tribunals are mostly decent, fair  and honest. Good luck!
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      Maggie William · 1 years ago
      @Faisal It’s not all the conditions but how they affect you each day. You are unable to cook wash shop etc. and you should have appealed. 71% if people win a appeal 
      They deliberately fail claims because they know people aren’t well enough to fight them.  Get what your entitled 
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      Stacey W · 1 years ago
      @Faisal Yes ADHD is much more accepted now and it is classed as a disability (as is ASD). Did you send in proof etc of your diagnoses? Also the form is still very much written for physical disabilities, so you have to know how to answer them for mental health issues. Once I saw how to answer them for MH and ADHD issues it made more sense. 
      Also you can speak to CAB about it and who can help you fill it out. The fact it's been impacting you for this long will also go in your favour
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      Louise · 1 years ago
      @Mark Just applied for my son so downloaded the guide from your link, just in case... Thankyou for sharing! 
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    Paul · 1 years ago
    I've just realised this year at 39 why my life has been such a mess, severe mental illness,  living in the back of a van, not being able to function in everyday day life, almost taking my life, can't communicate with people.  WTF, how does this go unnoticed as a human condition. 
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      M · 5 months ago
      @Stacey Sounds like my life…
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      Stacey · 1 years ago
      @Paul Hi Paul, how are you doing? I empathise completely. I was diagnosed at 40 but the damage ADHD has wreaked on my life is hard to process at times. For instance I know I'm intelligent, I have three degrees and a PhD....but I can't function in a workplace as as soon as it becomes routine, I get bored and start falling behind. I've set up my own business and for four years it was great...but it became boring and I started procrastinating and getting angry clients. Everytime I got somewhere, I'd end up having a mental breakdown which seemed to then force a restart.
      I've been bankrupt twice because I struggle with post and phone calls. I also find the fact that people have 100 ways to contact me overwhelming....social media has added a nightmare boss level to my life. All this brings shame and guilt, which often lead to unhealthy coping mechanisms and depression. You are not alone in this dance with mental health......just take one step and then another step and are here to talk if you need it
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      heather · 1 years ago
      @Paul Hi Paul, It's obvious from your situation why you reolised the problems you have are down to ADHD, but can I ask what it was that alerted you to suspect ADHD in the first place? thanx
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      heather · 1 years ago
      @Paul This goes unnoticed by those of us who have it, we are born ADHD we know no different, and no one is going to tell you that being persistently late is a well-known symptom of a common condition that you can have without ever knowing you have it, Oh no they punish us and we accept our punishment thinking we must be to blame, Being left undiagnosed and unaware of ADHD we have no other possible explanation for our symptoms other than to believe they are our own stupid fault, ADHD is being hushed up, and swept under the carpet by those who are well aware of our symptoms. 
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      Ads · 1 years ago
      @Paul Related to every word, struggling to get help. 
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    Marie · 1 years ago
    I got diagnosed ADHD at 53, ASD last week at 56. Both privately. More woman get missed. I have lots of hidden physical conditions as well. Will start next year with an application. I will update if I learn anything useful.
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    Ukmum1 · 1 years ago
    I have been getting pip for a few years and been diagnosed with ADHD this month and going on to medication. I am unsure if I need to tell them and amend my claim? Willthis stop my claim ?
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      Chelsea · 1 years ago
      @Ukmum1 You don’t need to tell them until your next review unless you feel your condition has worsened your day to day life, which could increase your entitlement 
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    Heather · 1 years ago
     It's difficult to explain our problems when we can't see them.  I achieved full PIP, I hope this helps

    1/ Preparing food-  I cook in bulk, and its subconsciously I have learned to stand over whatever I am cooking, if I have to step away from the cooker for any reason I have to switch everything off as I constantly go off track and forget what I'm doing, I can take days to complete a meal. I'v adapted the same when lighting my multi-fuel stove I  sit in front of it until it's lit and turn it down before I move.

    2/ Taking nutrition - I often find forgotten about meals in the microwave, and untouched cereal on the table having left the house before eating it, leaving me hungry and not realising why.

     3/ Managing therapy or monitoring a health condition -
    I think I have taken my pill but often find them later by the sink or somewhere stupid I laid them down I often come across many pills a day, did I take one that morning? How would I know?

    4/ Washing and bathing- My clean pile of clothes intended for a shower can lie in the bathroom for days or even weeks before I get around to having a shower.

     5/ Managing toilet needs or incontinence - No problems
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      6/ Dressing and undressing - I sleep clothed and only fully change my clothes when I shower.

     7/ Communicating verbally- I appear to I manage this ok but I'm not concentrating on what people are saying and can't remember what was said, I failed when trying to explain my situation my symptoms and how they affect me to the healthcare professionals even with their special training in disability analysis I was still unable to make any of them understand me.

     8/ Reading and understanding signs, symbols, and words-
     I can read the words 'but I can't take in the story or understand the information, I don't watch films either I can't follow them, I am so distracted. my mind wanders, so I don't have a clue what's happening.

    9/ Engaging with other people face-to-face- I fear talking to officials as this always means there's trouble again" and I can't concentrate on what people are saying to me, I don't take in the conversations which leads to confusing misinformation, I get things wrong and I mess-up.
     10/ Making budgeting decisions- I have always needed help to pay bills, before the electricity card meters I used the benefits system to pay my bills directly. I buy unnecessary stuff on impulse and often regret it, I have always struggled with money
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    11/  Planning and following journeys - I never travel alone as I can get lost even in my own village.

     12/ Moving around- I have no problem moving around- but I forget where I'm going and am totally distracted as to what I'm supposed to be doing.
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      M · 11 months ago
      @Heather This is so helpful, thank you
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      23 year old with adhd and aut · 1 years ago
      @Heather I did all this and got 0 points. Even appealed and still 0. I think it’s harder to get it now because if the living crisis. They said in order to get pip you have to have someone personal there to help you physically. So currupt this system 
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      Tyler · 1 years ago
      @Heather Heather your feelings are exactly the reason im going to try and get my diagnosis, ive always wondered what was wrong but have never seen something so relatable 
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    Mat · 1 years ago
    I got refused.  Having ADHD I didn't realise the tricks being played on me during the assessment until I put the phone down.  The report also says things I didn't say.
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      Susan · 1 years ago
      @Theresa I felt there are tricks by the assessors. I don't know what they are guess if I did they would not be tricks?
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      Theresa · 1 years ago
      @Mat Could I ask what tricks? 
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    heather · 1 years ago
    After a lifetime of persecution through the benefits system, I was finally diagnosed in 2018 at age 55.  I'm now one of 2% who are over age 50 and one of the 34% who get the enhanced rates of both components.
    and I'm in total despair at not being able to help the others who like me' passed through the system long before our schools knew about ADHD "Oh I see ADHD now" I see you all, I'm sorry I'm so ADHD I'm struggling to help but I won't give up trying..
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      Vintagecossie · 9 months ago
      @heather Hiya Heather.
      Three or four times l have "lost" you and all your answers l wanted to save. 
      I am so scared of the whole procedure - l avoid and massively procrastinate. Can you help me?
      Paralysed is the word l would use.
      I got my diagnosis for Adhd on 4th October 2022. I had no idea l was entitled to help.
      Seeing the stats for over 50's has scared me to death. I was 65 last September.
      I keep putting pressure on myself to complete these forms which makes me worse. I have had several extensions. Please can you help me?
      Kindest regards.
      Suzy.
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      Jodie · 1 years ago
      @heather Could you share some examples of how it effects your daily life I’ve not applied yet just been diagnosed and being over 30 worried I will be refused x
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      Michelle · 1 years ago
      @heather I self referred for an assessment today at the age of 53 - failed by education and medical professionals. It all makes perfect sense. Now in a medical menopause and the symptoms are now magnified. 
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      shaun · 1 years ago
      @heather Thank you for sharing, I'm 53 and waiting for a diagnosis, feel like I've wasted so many years not understanding myself years....
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    ZuulGatekeeper · 1 years ago
    PIP is helpful for those with disabilities if your confident in your debate skills. You have to be ready for them and make sure that you lead a persuasive case. There is zero room for error or emotional attachment, you have to talk to them like they talk to you; Like a lawyer in a courtroom and that’s what’s so difficult about claiming PIP. With ADHD, from the hours of intense (handwritten - I mean, seriously, is this to test if you have ADHD or not by what happens to the booklet?
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      Claire · 1 years ago
      @Suzy Right to choose is only available in England, sadly. 
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      Lilly x · 1 years ago
      @Suzy Does this work for children ? 
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      Jamie · 1 years ago
      @Suzy This is brilliant. I used Psychiatry UK for my diagnosis at 36 years old, however, I paid private. They didn't advise me to do the Right to Choose approach until I had received my diagnosis.
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      Suzy · 1 years ago
      @Donna Hiya. Don’t pay privately. Google Psychiatry Uk. They have forms you can print off and complete - to take to your gp. Called Right to choose. This means you can choose Psychiatry UK to diagnose you. After the gp sent off the forms,  I got my diagnosis with them within 6 Months. After a 50 minute appointment via my daughter’s lap top - where we could see each other face to face. I have had top quality service from them. Do look into it. Get googling!!
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      Donna · 1 years ago
      @ZuulGatekeeper This is so true and I share this experience of my assessment too. I couldn't keep up with the questions and detach from the emotional when I got confused. 

      I am not diagnosed as ADHD but I do have a referral from my GP and I am planning on getting assesssd privately as the waiting list is 4 years in Northern Ireland. 

      I am 53 btw. And recently awarded PIP enhanced rate care.
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    Sarah · 1 years ago
    All 3 of my children get/got DLA. I’m on here to get advice for the 16 year old girl who has ADHD with the first PIP application. My eldest is 20 he has autism and ADHD as well as mobility problems because of the autism - sensory toe walking mainly. We got PIP for him at appeal and then it ended. Next application went the same way and now been waiting for Appeal date since July 2021. I only got a response from the Appeals Service because I wrote to the Public Services Ombudsman and that was in May. Now nearing the end of August 2022 and still no date. I’ll have to go back to the ombudsman. 
    My kids couldn’t do these forms and organise all their paperwork so I feel so sorry for all you claimants having to deal with PIP on your own. Please get help wherever you can. I have four a levels and a degree and honestly PIP is the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do. It’s made me so depressed. It’s a hideous system esp for those with “hidden” disabilities. The “assessors” in my experience give 0 points for everything.  Even after Appeal 1 gave son PIP award, the next application scored my son 0 points when nothing had changed and I believe they force everyone to Appeal, which is why we are waiting 13 months just for a date. I’m glad I’ve found this community now. 
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    Kira Raval · 1 years ago
    They took my pip away from me on the 13th August because they didn't wait for my books of evidence. I had to pay £685 for Mt private adhd assessment. They knew this and left me with no money. Joke on them
     I have so much evidence I am waiting for.

    As if they say I could ow them money and I'm not taking my med. The notes that were taken were all bullshit. 

    I can't get a back scan yet as I can't laystill for the MRI scan due to my adhd and autism. Twats.

    I have an appointment for my nice Dr who will sort all my evidence out.

    Private prescriptions are not cheap at all.
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    Matt · 1 years ago
    One major hurdle for me is dealing with the process, forms and everything else, I'd need it done for me. That's why I don't have PIP.
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      Nic · 1 years ago
      @Stu I refused to complete the forms and continued to ask for more time. In the end they advised I was protected in law because of my ADHD and they did not require them to be filled in. I went straight to interview stage. Don’t get me wrong it was a fight and speaking to many people it was very stressful with many meltdowns. I had attempted it in the past but let it go but this time I though no, I am not being made to feel like this. I am a 53 ye old nurse who has never got any help but feel I need it now. I await my claim decision
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      Susan · 1 years ago
      @Jay Triggered that's says it thanks for that word I feel it in my gut now regards my difficulties in understanding the claim procedure despite claims for years
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      Susan · 1 years ago
      @Matt I am with you. Same here. Had my money cut since May last year :-(
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      Stu · 1 years ago
      @Matt How on earth can they expect people with ADHD to go through the form filling process!!? 🤦‍♂️ 
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      Jay · 1 years ago
      @Matt Im exactly the same  snd completely  understand, both forms and assessment have really triggered me , we’re almost impossible to do and don’t feel I can fairly assessed because of this . 
      Feel discriminated against 
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    Anon · 1 years ago
    An absolute appalling system.
    My son is diagnosed with adhd, anxiety and depression (he's 20). It effects his daily life. He has been trying for over a year to claim pip. They mixed his claim up with someone else (six months into his claim), then when that was sorted he was awarded nothing. 0 points. Yet he lives in supported accommodation and has all documents for proof of conditions etc. Even his support workers have helped with his claim and said they don't understand why he's scored 0.
    After appealing their desicion and his claim going to the tribunal, he has found out today he has lost his appeal. It's an absolute joke. I mean the fact he lives in supported accommodation must score him some points, let alone the fact he has anxiety and depression on top of adhd? I Just don't get it?
    So, back to square one of trying to claim.
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    ZiLla · 1 years ago
    I just been awarded pip for adhd and asd. I have no idea what to expect being on pip other than im able to start a path to helping myself rather then helping others 

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      Tim B · 1 years ago
      @R See above!
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      Tim B · 1 years ago
      @madina Search/ask locally for advice agencies-Welfare/benefits/ disability or Citizens Advice 
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      madina · 1 years ago
      @ZiLla Hello, i am currently in the process of applying, i would be very grateful for some help with the application if you able to help me with this.
      thank you.
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      R · 1 years ago
      @ZiLla Same
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    Astee · 1 years ago
    On a move to pip from dla at  hr care and low rate mobility on turning 16, my son was awarded 0 points and the same on MR.+ for PIP. On appeal he was awarded a total of 24pts(14 care 10mobility) This descision was changed over the phone by dwp to prevent me taking the appeal to tribunal. I am allowed to appeal this descision, (which I know from this site) but the person who called me did not tell me this and I was led to believe that if I accepted this that was the end of the appeal, and if I did not accept this I would have to go to tribunal which could take months - their words- clearly trying to put me off. I accepted the appeal and the promptly I  appealed it as I feel he should have scored 12 point on the mobility. Please please please don't be afraid to appeal guys. 
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    Ppt · 1 years ago
    Wondering how successful people have been with mobility. I suffer with severe anxiety and depression. I an currently under assessment for either peronality disorder or ADHD I can not travel on public transports and heavily rely on car to allow me to leave my home. My car was recently stolen and was wondering if it would be worth reapplying for mobility?
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      Advocate · 1 years ago
      @J Lucky you. For many of us, it does. 
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      J · 1 years ago
      @Ppt I have anxiety and depression and diagnosed ADHD and none affect mobility
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      Raph · 1 years ago
      @Ppt I have ADHD, cPTSD, severe depression & anxiety.

      I get HR Daily Living; SR Mobility atm – missed the HR by 2 points, so have submitted an appeal – just nervously awaiting Court Tribunal date. 

      Yes, it's worth applying, but (if relevant) be sure you focus on Q13 descriptor 1f. "Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid". 12 points.

      Without focusing on and fulfilling the criteria for this element of Q13, you may get SR Mobility, but not HR, as the next descriptor level down (1e) gives you 10 pts – not enough for HR. 

      This changes of course, if you additionally have a physical condition which precludes you from walking set amounts of distance that's Q14, where you may pick up some more points depending on your symptoms.
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      Danielle · 1 years ago
      @Ppt I’m diagnosed both adhd combined and borderline personality disorder, I currently get enchanced mobility because I can not travel on public transport I rely on taxis or other people all the time
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    Man with ADHD · 1 years ago
    The system is so corrupt. I have ADHD/ASD and the sheer stress I'm under with my ADHD because I have no support, I can't tidy, can't cook, everything is a damn struggle and what does the government say? "Go to work" if only they knew how hard it is >_<
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      D · 8 days ago
      @Paul. You may not be able to help with it all but definitely don't leave it all up to her, and tell her how much you appreciate her often and always, buy her her favourite snacks on the way home and check her needs before you choose any downtime hobby when you are home. If you need to ask her to write you a list of things she wishes you could take off her shoulders do it as often as you can remember, stick reminders everywhere if needed as long as she sees you are trying sometimes she will appreciate it. And treat her to tons and tons of romance (look online if you need ideas) cos she deserves that and more. Believe me having someone who loves you who is willing to do all that is priceless, it's hell on the other side.
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      Tim B · 1 years ago
      @Gilly Robinson Seconded, I was diagnosed yesterday at 57 and I’m holding back tears reading this. 
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      marie · 1 years ago
      @Raph please share
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      S JA 75 · 1 years ago
      @Man with ADHD I totally understand you, my son struggles also.  It frustrates him he can’t cook, can’t spread butter on toast, can’t follow a recipe, can’t retain information etc these forms need to be rewritten and reworded 😡
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      Jerry R · 1 years ago
      @Paul. I have never read anything more relatable than this, you summed up my whole life and fears in one comment. I hope you appeal it!
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    Jan · 2 years ago
    Refused twice now for my son who has asd and adhd. Awful system 
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      Tim B · 1 years ago
      @Jan Jan (and everyone else here too!) if he’s not a rare case of remarkably good functioning then with a well written form using the manuals on B&W or an advisor with a bit of evidence you will win a tribunal. I’ve been to a few for my kid, their mum and myself now and always get treated fairly and honestly by a doctor and a lawyer. It’s not just the needed money or the way DLA/PIP has accessed help, its the being believed after the DWP label us as frauds/not really struggling, on top of everything else! I’m a grown man and I cried more than once for that reason, not the money. 
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      Karine · 1 years ago
      @Jan Why did they refuse your son. I'm so sorry this system doesn't help those like us 
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      Gilly Robinson · 1 years ago
      @Gilly Robinson Incidentally, when I said (above) that I was able to 'tidy up' the Citizen's Advice worker's answers, I meant I was able to apply all the advice (relevant to our situation) contained in the B&W's PIP guide.  This was enormously helpful.  The two (CAB and B&W) together was definitely what made all the difference in my daughter being awarded PIP (enhanced for both).  I am so, so grateful to B&W for their excellent, clear guide.
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      Gilly Robinson · 1 years ago
      @Caroline Absolutely agree.  The CA worker was hugely helpful with my application for my daughter (who is autistic, though you'd never know it).  I have ADHD and struggled enormously with trying to get through the paperwork.

      The woman from CA helped me recognise all sorts of daily living issues that I'd never really considered for my daughter (I guess I'd just got accustomed to stuff), then typed up what we'd discussed into DWP speak, and sent it through to me.  Having then got something usable in front of me, I was then able to 'tidy it up', clarify further points etc and send it in.  

      Still took me a month of Sundays to gather all the evidence and photocopy it, but I did it.  Got enhanced rate for both daily living and mobility!
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      Raph · 1 years ago
      @Caroline I second this.
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    JaneyJ · 2 years ago
    PIP paperwork does not load, no email access to ask why
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