Claimants are waiting over half an hour, on average, for PIP and DLA helpline calls to be answered, DWP minister Tom Pursglove admitted in a written parliamentary answer last week. But the minister now needs to come clean about how many callers never get an answer at all, because they are deliberately disconnected using a practice the department refers to as ‘call-blocking’.

Labour MP Beth Winter asked about waiting times for calls last month.

The response from the minister for disabled people was that the average waiting times for the PIP, DLA and AA telephone enquiry lines for the month of March 2023 were:

PIP - 37 minutes

DLA - 33.5 minutes

DLA65+ - 6 minutes

AA – 2 minutes

Clearly average waiting times of over half an hour for PIP and DLA are absolutely unacceptable, although many people who contact us have waited much longer without getting an answer at all.

But Pursglove’s response hides much more than it reveals. Because we also need to know about the number and proportion of calls that don’t get answered.

This would include claimants who hang up after waiting often for an hour or more.

And, crucially, it would include callers who are being deliberately and repeatedly cut-off by the DWP.

Back in March of this year a parliamentary question was asked about waiting times for the DWP Future Pension Centre. Call volumes had increased ten-fold as people tried to check their national insurance contribution record before a deadline.

The answer revealed that in March 443,000 calls out of a total of 517,00 had been blocked by the DWP - almost nine in ten callers. The practice is known by the DWP as ‘call-blocking’ and means that the DWP does not allow the call to enter the call waiting queue because there are too many people in it already. Instead, the line simply gets cut-off.

This sounds very similar to what has been happening to many callers to the PIP helpline, who report being repeatedly cut-off:

“Received PiP review form but my partner who it relates to is unwell in bed for last 3 days. Time scale for return quite short. Rang to get extension today. Keep getting cut off. Must have tried 10 times.”

 “Been trying for Weeks to get through to change bank account details and it cuts off as soon as you go through all the automated talk. Three weeks ago got through the talk on the 'make a new claim' section only to hold for an hour and a half. I gave up without speaking to someone.”

 “Ridiculous wait times, been trying to phone for 4 days now and each time it either cuts me off during asking for my details, or there is an hour 30 wait time and it cuts off. Only need to ask for an extension to my date as the forms only just arrived giving me 7 working days to reply back. I can't even get an appointment with CAB in the next 2 weeks, let alone my doctors to request supporting documentation and they give 7 working days?”

 In his written answer, the minister’s explanation for the long waiting times was:

“We are currently experiencing higher than forecast call volumes to the PIP and DLA telephony enquiry lines. We have recruited additional staff onto our telephony teams and have on-going recruitment to further increase resources.”

But, without knowing how many staff are being recruited and how many staff are already in post it is impossible to tell whether the extra staff are likely to make any real difference.

So, it’s good news that MPs have begun raising the issue of DWP call handling with ministers, but there are a lot more questions that need to be asked.

Benefits and Work members might want to consider asking their MP if they would be willing to ask one of them.

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    Dawn · 11 months ago
    It has just taken under 2 hours to get through, first after 1 hour 30 mins to somebody who said I was through to the wrong number despite calling the number on the letter. I am calling in behalf of my son who has ADHD. There is now way a person with ADHD could remain on the phone for this long without support. The sheer frustration of being told after 1hr and 45 mins I was through to the wrong person. Would send the sanest of people mad. 
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    Trevor · 11 months ago
    I have been trying to get through to ESA enquiries for over 6 and a half hours today, Friday 26 May 2023! Every time I phone ESA enquiries on 08001690310 you have to go through an annoying set of questions which takes at least 10 to 15 minutes of your time to complete! Then you go into the queue waiting for someone to answer the phone and have to listen to this annoying, repetitive music over and over again! I waited over 45 minutes in the queue and then the phone just goes silent! I phoned again and yet again, you have to go through the SAME ANNOYING set of questions, go into the queue and wait this time for over 1 hour 10 minutes for someone to answer the phone! Then again COMPLETE SILENCE! My only consolation is to see that I'm not alone and there are sooooo many other poor folks out there in the same position as myself. WAKE UP DWP!
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    Jules · 11 months ago
    PIP wait is an hour and a half minimum that’s if you don’t get call blocked . I tried writing to them instead and sending it signed for - it took them four months to reply to the letter via a phone call telling me I needn’t have contacted them at all with a change in health circumstance as I’m now a pensioner .
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    Cavey · 11 months ago
    Today 11,5,23 phoned pip 6 time and 3 out the 6 call can not be answered now and the last 3 got about 18 mins in to the call then it makes this silly noise then cut me of 
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    Kate · 11 months ago
    My sister had to wait ages for PIP response to ask about extension as no time to return the form. We bith have autism. I told her to get in touch in touch with our MP. Please anyone who is in this situation, MPs have clout and there's a special dept in the DWP who deal with MP responses. She got two extensions this way and quickly. 
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    Anne-Marie · 11 months ago
    My PIP review was due in December 2022. Evidence was asked for in September 2022. I have had texts saying that review not finished. It is now May 2023 and my condition has deteriorated so much that I need a personal assistant. I am also waiting for continuing healthcare to be assessed. Not sure who will get back to me first. 
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    Steveyboy · 11 months ago
    I could be wrong but this may well be a knock on effect of staff working from home. I am finding that at home staff are far more laid back, friendly and willing to chat away. All very nice but this makes the calls longer and knocks on to call waiting times for those still in the queue.

     Wait 90 mins to speak to someone chilled at home or 30 mins to get a terrible service from a call centre, can't win.

    As to new staff manning the phones, there are a finite number of bodies  available, the DWP will just rob staff from one line to place on another. Their weasel platitudes are worthless. A recruitment drive to employ hundreds of  dedicated call handlers is required to make any real difference.

    Might happen under a different government but let's face it, our happiness is very far down the priority list of any and all.


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      LWalk · 6 months ago
      @Steveyboy I have been trying to contact DLA about my child's renewal for three weeks. I work in the mornings and try every afternoon. The call is always cut off after 15 or 30 minutes. This is the most frustrating process ever. They received the renewal in April and I have heard nothing other than a letter in May saying it would take at least 15 weeks. It's now been 26 since receiving it. How else can we contact them?
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    Carole · 11 months ago
    I have claimed and been refused and same for mandatory reconsideration my appeal has not been heard yet 14 months in total from when i started claim told to by 2 ladies at dwp they said i had no diagnosis this is not supposed to be based on that but now i do and it confirms all the complaints i have made from the beginning was made to feel like it wasnt real cannot wait for my day would like the assesser who lied and ommitted  the rest of sentences to be present 
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    Diane · 11 months ago
    I received a demand for information about the small teachers pension I get from my late husband's job.  I have the same problem every year; they demand the information long before I get it from 
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    Sarah · 11 months ago
    I had my re-assessment forms in January, I sent them back straight away, was told I would hear by end of March, I got a text message telling me that, ive heard nothing, Ive been trying to call them since then one time I was on the phone waiting for nearly 2 hrs then got cut off, just recently had another message saying they will do it as soon as they can, still can not get any answer from anyone
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    Denise Rolland · 11 months ago
    my PiP review was due August 22.  Having returned the form with no response I phoned in January 23 and it took 1hr 45 mins before I was able to speak to anyone.  They sent a letter extending until July 2023 as my blue badge was expiring that month.  However the badge needs renewing again and the council are hassling.  I rang last week and this time spoke to human after 1 hour and 30 mins.  There is nothing more that can be done until my review is looked at by someone and they cannot tell me when that might be.  My Motability car is also due for renewal, but I cannot renew as I don't have more than a year of PiP.  I know this is not as bad as many claimants but the stress and anxiety over will I not be able to go out etc. is making me feel a lot worse.
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      Gilly R · 11 months ago
      @Denise Rolland The stress and anxiety sounds awful; don't dismiss it as not being as bad as other claimants' experience - I absolutely sympathise.  

      Have you written to your MP?  I'd write to them (regardless of which colour), set out with bullet points the timeline of letters, calls, length of time waiting on the phone for each one etc, deadline of your Motability, plus a copy of what they are telling you about the need for a clear year of projected PIP payments for you to be entitled to keep your car.

      Then ask them for clear guidance on how you progress this - and ask them to raise it at PMQs (Prime Minister's Questions).  Good luck x

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    John B · 11 months ago
    3 times i called PIP this morning 3 times i was cut off. Absolute joke 
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    Glennis Padgett · 11 months ago
    I did eventually get through to PIP, I’m acting on behalf of my daughter, who has an incurable disease, substantiated by a clinician and forwarded to DWP PIP department.  Numerous forms and emails completed, we have now been told my daughter’s request for PIP has gone to Blackpool to decision makers.  First application forwarded to PIP in November 2022 but unfortunately her condition is deteriorating, she has had an OT visit and currently waiting for aids to help with daily life within her home. 

    Please advise if any members have had experience with Blackpool decision makers!  

    Regards

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    Gary · 11 months ago
    I rang to ask about why my mandatory review  was dated 24th April I got it yesterday 9th may  for pip ..I give up after 45 mins ..so they give you 28days to appeal ,but you don't get the letter for the first two weeks and it's not the first time
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    Heather · 11 months ago
    The dwp is not fit for purpose. Period. Maybe the Government shoukd considered cutting the land subsidy grant given to ultra rich land owners and help les affluent citizens instead.
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    mica · 11 months ago
    Thirty seven minutes to get though to the PIP helpline.  I should be so lucky!  In my experience anything under an hour is a success.  I recently had to contact the PIP helpline to tell them that despite sending my reassessment form back to them (first class recorded delivery) a week before the actual deadline, five days later it was still showing as not yet received.  On four separate attempts I could not even get into the queuing system but merely just cut off every time after all of the recorded announcements.  What I have since found out from Royal Mail, which other people should be made aware of, is DWP allegedly have an arrangement with the Post Office to only receive post twice a week.  Another way of helping claimants to miss deadlines??
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      Jules · 11 months ago
      @mica I always send letters to DWP/PIP signed for delivery so  know they can’t deny receiving them , it costs more but it’s worth it .  I always copy everything too before sending .
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    Julie white · 11 months ago
    My husband is due for a review  been ringing dwp for a month but getting cut off After about 30 minutes  been on hold for 1 hour 45 minutes  cut off went to the local dwp office to be told nothing to do with us.
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    Jan · 11 months ago
    I can’t get through to report a change of circumstance. I have been trying for Weeks..
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    Denise · 11 months ago
    It took me 5 phone calls with a total wait time of 3 hours and 46 minutes to even get a PIP application form issued to my correct address, never mind start the actual application process. 
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    Heather · 11 months ago
    Trying to sort out my pip claim. Every time I called I was holding more than 1 hour. Promised call backs never happened. Only pushed through when I said I wanted to make a complaint. My mental health is very bad and I felt like giving up. Having worked over 40 years I needed help. 
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