Many commentors on the Benefits and Work website have expressed confusion about where a series of government concessions since Friday, culminating in yesterdays final hour climbdown, leave them.  We’re not surprised.  As one Labour MP said in the debate “I popped out for a banana earlier on and, when I came back in, things had changed again. “

We’ve done our best to explain how matters currently stand with Labour’s welfare reform shambles.

Pip 4-point rule

Last week the government announced that current claimants would be protected from the PIP 4-point rule in the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.  Instead, it would only affect new claimants from November 2026.

But in virtually the final hour of the debate last night, Timms told the Commons:

"I can announce that we are going to remove the clause five from the bill at committee, that we will move straight to the wider review, sometimes referred to as the Timms review, and only make changes to PIP eligibility, activities and descriptors following that review."

Clause 5 is the 4-point rule.

What this means is that the 4-point rule is being removed entirely from the bill.  It will not apply to any claimants at all, at any time.  There is no PIP 4-point rule for anyone.  

Instead, any changes to PIP will be decided by the Timms review. 

 Universal credit

New universal credit (UC) health element claimants from April 2026 will still see their UC health element almost halved and frozen.

Existing UC LCWRA claimants were already protected in the bill  from the cut to the UC health element and in a further concession they are to be protected from the freeze.

Severe conditions criteria

There have been no changes to the extremely hard to meet severe conditions criteria as a result of last night’s debate.

Everything else

The bill only covers those three issues.  Every other proposal, such as the abolition of the WCA, the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit  and not paying 18-21 year old PIP recipients the health element of UC is not affected by last night’s vote.  They will all require separate legislation of their own.

Timms review

The Timms review was not due to report until after the 4-point rule had already started.  Now, any changes to PIP will have to wait until after the Timms review makes its recommendations.

In theory, the review could recommend bringing in the 4-point rule.  In practice that would be extraordinarily politically damaging and also unnecessary.  There are many more ways that Labour can cut eligibility to PIP without using that particular device, which was adopted mainly because it was quick and easy to implement.

The review is very wide ranging and is likely to make considerable changes to the PIP assessment, not least as the new single assessment is intended to be the gateway to the UC health element, if the WCA is scrapped. So the points system may look very different by the time Timms reports.

The review is supposed to be coproduced with disabled people.  But what that means in practice we have yet to see.  Green Paper consultations have been an insulting farce and we know the government is keen to halt the rising cost of PIP. 

We also know that Timms is a zealot when it comes to the idea that cutting people’s benefits will make them more likely to find work.

Plus, the secretary of state, currently Liz Kendall, gets to make the final decision on what changes are brought before parliament after the review reports.

So there are still difficult times ahead.

Was there anything positive about last night’s result?

This depends on your point of view. 

The government got their bill through its first vote and that is undoubtedly a bad thing. 

New disabled claimants of UC from April 2026 will be hit very hard by the cut and freeze to the health element.

And the Timms review could still attempt to impose severe cuts on PIP.

But, disabled people and disability groups took on a government with a majority of 165 and an utter contempt for disabled claimants.  They were forced to fight against a bill that was only published on 18 June and is being rushed through parliament at breakneck speed to try to prevent opposition.

And yet, with everything in their favour, the government have been forced into a series of humiliating concessions.  The centrepiece of the bill, the PIP 4-point rule is gone and with it, almost all the £5 billion in savings that Labour planned to make on the backs of disabled claimants.

In fact, there have been so many changes to the bill that even the name is wrong now – it has nothing to do with personal independence payment anymore.  

So yes, in our view there are some very positive things about last night.  But, unfortunately, that doesn’t mean the fight doesn’t go on and on . . . starting with the third reading of the bill on 9 July.

Correction:  we referred to a government amendment in a previous update, this was in fact an amendment from Steve Darling, Liberal Democrat MP.  Thanks to John for pointing this out. 

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    · 8 days ago
    I've been on contribution based ESA in the support group since Dec 2024 & I'm not eligible for UC. 
    I've put off applying for PIP due to the proposed changes & the fact that even just thinking about the whole process is reigniting my anxiety that's been under control for a good few years now & I keep asking myself is it worth putting myself through this to just be turned down at the end of the day. Is it worth applying or are new claimants generally being turned down with the proposed changes getting closer?
    I hope this makes sense.
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    · 18 days ago
    Apologies if someone has already posted this.
    On Morning Live program BBC Thursday 3rd July at approx 10 am
    Their reporter,who had contacted DWP, comfirmed that :
    Existing claimants on PIP due for review will fall under old system ie don't need 4 points for one activity.

    Moving from DLA to PIP there is no change there either IE you don't need 4 points for one activity etc


    Migration from ESA to UC,you should still receive full Health Element payment

    The Welfare Bill still needs to be voted against though.
    That's my personal opinion
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      · 8 days ago
      @Harry But we don't know if that will apply under the new proposals when they review in 2026. The existing claimants exemption was a last ditch attempt at getting the bill through but it was pulled pending a new assessment  in 2026, everything still on the table then!!

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      · 13 days ago
      @EJ Read what I put. I had,dla 1978, then in 2015 I was asked to fill in a form & asked for a home visit. I didn't lose anything just changed name from fla to pips.
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      · 17 days ago
      @EJ Hazel Rutter.
      I moved from dla to pips. I still had face interview at my request at home. No problem I'd given so much evidence of my disabilities that I was then 2015 at pension age, I will get pips at both higher components at same amount just transferred from dla to pips. I had a letter of confirmation one month later.
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      · 18 days ago
      @Harry Eventually i will be moved from Dla which was awarded to me 20 years ago ( no reviews since then !)   I was wondering what the situation was for people like myself who were on long term dla moving eventually onto PIP , I wasn't sure if I would be classed as " new claimant"
      So reading what you have written it seems they may take the fact have been on dla a long time into consideration when the time comes to be migrated onto PIP ( is that correct ?)
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    · 18 days ago
    Apologies if someone has already posted this.
    On Morning Live program BBC Thursday 3rd July at approx 10 am 
    Their reporter,who had contacted DWP, 

    Migration from ESA to UC,you should still receive full Health Element payment 

    The Welfare Bill still needs to be voted against though.
    That's my personal opinion 


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      · 18 days ago
      @Harry In the bill as written. That does not apply to those only on contributions based ESA or New Style ESA. And the government so far has proposed no amendment that changes that. 
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    · 18 days ago
    Could someone explain to me if the Timms review will recommend a review of all PIP recipients- as if it does that well be another DLA to PIP type process or will current PIP recipients be protected we need to find this out and put pressure on MPs
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      · 18 days ago
      @John Thanks- this appears worse than I first imagined. If there is no new money here, then this review will act as a cost cutting exercise, this will justify this as they will state that disability charities have been involved however many of these receive government funding and will likely side with the Government review recommendations. We all need to pressure Labour MPs about this review and ensure that PIP claimants are not subjected to a further DLA - PIP process again 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Broken Britain We do not know.

      Liz Kendall in her statement and questions and answers to the house on the 30th June. Was asked repeatedly and said existing claimants would remain under the old rules and the new system would only be for new claimants. But was never asked to state categorically she was referring to the current descriptors and points vs the Timms review changed descriptors and points and not just the 4 point PIP rule. So if you are cynical it is possible she was being obtuse pretending to not understand the questions and misleading in her answers.

      On the 1st July debate and vote. Liz Kendall and Timms did not clarify this and were not asked to. Then the government announced section 5 with the PIP 4 point rule was being dropped.

      Parliamentary written question and answers are equally not definite as no MP has asked a specific question as to the descriptors and points.

      And now all questions are being answered with section 5 is no longer going to be in the bill. Rather than answering what the plan is in regard to implementing the Timms review changed PIP assessment.
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    · 19 days ago
    I am reposting this because for some reason bits of my first attempt were missing.  Apologies. 

    I have some

    1) I’ve been on contributions-based ESA in the support group and before that DLA for decades. I get both components of PIP, one is higher rate. Due to a recent change in circumstances I no longer receive housing benefit or IR-ESA.  Therefore I’m not currently eligible for UC and can’t migrate.  When I do claim UC in the future I presume I will be treated as a new claimant.  If this is after 2026 will I therefore not get the health component? 

    2) If your council only gets round to migrating people from legacy benefits after 2026, you won’t get the health component?

    3) After 2026, if you fail to migrate before your deadline runs out, will you not get the health component? 

    The rule about losing your top-up if you don’t migrate from legacy benefits before the tight deadline you are given already penalises those who are most ill. The process is virtually impossible if you can’t use computers and are too ill to keep scheduled ‘phone calls.  Now, after 2026, you will be further penalised by also losing the health component.

    I’d really appreciate some clarification so I can make these points to my MP. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @john Thank you very much, John.  
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      · 18 days ago
      @Radionoush Yes it means if you had been able to migrate, or if you are able to claim UC before April 2026 you will be £206.01 better off a month.

      Existing claim is anyone in receipt of UC LCWRA before April 2026. They get standard allowance £400.14 + the current higher UC health element £423.27 = £823.41
      And their UC standard allowance + UC health combined will be uprated at least by inflation.

      New claim is any claim for UC LCWRA that starts from April 2026. They get standard allowance £400.14 + the new lower UC health element £217.26 = £617.40
      And the uprating of their health element is frozen not increased by inflation.
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      · 18 days ago
      @John Me again John — thank you for your reply.  I still don’t understand (my meds and condition mean I struggle with figures.) I don’t understand the last two bits where it gets to new claim being lower than existing. Does it mean if I’d been able to migrate I would have had roughly £200 more a month forever more?  Thank you.    
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      · 18 days ago
      @John This is exactly the situation I am in.  I received a migration notice earlier this year.  But soon after had a change in my capital (which I straight away alerted the council and DWP about.). Therefore my IR ESA and housing benefit were stopped.  Therefore I cannot migrate to UC and am living off that capital, contributions based ESA and PIP.  Once the capital runs out I will have to apply to UC as a new claimant.  If it is after 2026 when that happens I will lose out.  
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      · 19 days ago
      @Radionoush 1. Not currently on income based ESA or UC. You get treated as a new claimant if you claim UC after April 2026. But this does not result in you being worse off than now if you move to UC.

      Single adult age 25+
      Contributions based ESA or New Style ESA LCWRA = £140.55 a week x 52 weeks / 12 months = £609.05 a month
      New claim UC LCWRA = £617.40 a month

      But is lower than
      Existing UC LCWRA = £823.41 a month

      And is unfair as the government plans to abolish contributions based ESA / New Style ESA in 2028/2029. And has not said existing recipients will be protected. So people currently on it may lose it, and not only be forced to deplete their savings to survive but to add insult to injury once they are poor enough to get UC receive less than someone who has been on means tested benefits from the start.
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    · 19 days ago
    I have some pressing questions I’d like to clarify before I contact my “for” voting Labour MP yet again:

    1) I’ve been on contributions-based ESA (in the support group) and before that DLA for decades.  I get both components of PIP (one is higher. I 

    2) If your council only gets round to migrating people from legacy benefits after 2026, you won’t get the health component?

    3) After 2026, if you fail to migrate before your deadline runs out (

    The rule about losing your top-up if you don’t migrate from legacy benefits before the deadline you are given already penalises those who are most ill.  Now, after 2026, they will be further penalised by also losing the health component. 

    I’d really appreciate some clarification so I can make these points to my MP. 


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    · 19 days ago
    Reeves crying about PM question time in parliament and it just shows Starmer is incompetent and incapable running a cabinet office period…
    BTW the voting for a reform in the disability benefit system was a total and total SHAMBLES and my previous comment just before the MPs voting went on the way I stated whatever happens taxes, one way or another will go up and it’s not anyone’s fault at all - it’s purely down to the Labour Government of mismanagement of the economy period…
    Love you All..
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      · 19 days ago
      @D2 Incredible how quickly Reeves recovered from her devastating news.  I don’t think I’m the only person with disabilities who’s been a wreck for months worrying about this bill.  Our distress is rather longer-lasting than hers. 
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      · 19 days ago
      @Robin Hood Hi Robin Hood

      Reeves was smiling again today. put her 'tears' yesterday down to a 'personal matter'

      If a devastating personal matter hits hard on one day it takes more than the next day to be able to smile again! 

      Taxes will/would have gone up anyway, as you say! It is just another tactic to pit us the disabled against the small businesses!

      Listening to Peston today he is under the impression that they will raise the state pension age again! 

      He also stated that small business arguments will be, that you are increasing their taxes, but then expecting us to be able to employ more people to include the disabled!

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    · 19 days ago
    Reeves has had us crying for months! 

    Also between her and Kendall what they did last week to Dr Marie Tidball  Labour MP was disgraceful of them! They had her in tears before the 1st reading! Let alone what ensued during the debate!


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    · 19 days ago
    Ok they will haggle over the small print in response to pressure but the really soul-destroying and unbelievable thing is that a Labour government -a Labour government!!!- , faced with all the things wrong in our society which they would have the power to put right, has made it a priority instead to attack the old, the sick and the disabled.  What were they thinking?  Did they go for the easy targets rather than billionaire buddies and tax avoiders?  Does anyone at all believe they were trying to help people into work?  This is not the way to help anyone.
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    · 19 days ago
    My Tory MP Sir Alec Shelbrooke announced to his constituents the day before the vote that he was voting 'for'. He got a barrage of negative responses, removed his vote and then on the vote day....abstained.
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    · 19 days ago
    Thank you very much for this concise analysis. Much appreciated. I spent yesterday in bed to recover from it all. 
    Keep fighting peeps ✊🏻
    Well done to everyone for campaigning so hard. 😇
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    · 19 days ago
    So, does this mean that Claimants who have to renew their claims will be subject to the new proposals or are they still under the old system?
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      · 17 days ago
      @Michelle Current claimants will be protected from the new rules when implemented after the timms review. Only new claimants after the review will be effected 
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      · 17 days ago
      @mystpurple Still under the old system 
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      · 19 days ago
      @mystpurple There will be no new pip system or change until after Timms has done his review, so under the current system up until then.
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    · 19 days ago
    Reeves crying yesterday ?
    Sorry i have no sympathy for her .
    She brought it on herself for her hasty nasty decisions .
    We have had weeks of suffering & worrying because of the inhumane decisions to recoop money they have blown through their incompetence .

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      · 19 days ago
      @Edwards You’re not alone — my own mh, always precarious, fell off a cliff due to benefits stuff this year.  I’ve had to be under the crisis team and am now on yet another waiting list for help.  

      Mh services other than crisis support doesn’t exist in this country.  I’ve been bounced from team to team for five years with no mh help because they cannot cope with me also being severely physically disabled/ill.  All the while my physical health and mh health get steadily worse. 
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      · 19 days ago
      @ANGELA I have had to contact mh services myself, I began talking therapy In September, then another lot of talking therapy in January as i was never discharged and now awaiting emdr with a new therapist,they have caused more problems than they could ever know!!they don't want to give benefits for mh,well stop causing the problem!!! Mh services have been overwhelmed with people needing support caused by this issue and this issue alone,they have put people who had recovered or in some kind of remission of their symptoms into complete setback and flare ups which they would never have had otherwise.please think before you act,I don't suppose any of them will read this post but I hope they've got the message loud and clear,leave us alone!!!
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      · 19 days ago
      @vic As much as I have nervously suffered with this and my son has,I just cannot not feel ok when I see another person in obvious distress crying on national tv becausei know how that feels,to be utterly broken and looking so pitiful,I know she didn't care about us and I know I'm a soft touch,too soft,snd I think she really does have to go abd she knows it, her position is untenable and she should go with dignity,I would not expect any more leniency though from her replacement because they are absolutely determined to ruin us in one way or another 
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      · 19 days ago
      @vic I totally agree.. Reeves should think how many sore heads plus illness flare ups she and Starmer has caused over these last 4+ months.
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      · 19 days ago
      @vic I, like many others, have been in bits for months. I won’t be the only one who’s had to access their GP and MH services over this. 
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    · 19 days ago
    I dont understand how the esa rule would affect me i am in the support group on new style esa not means tested but I do also recieve some UC I have been on this 2 years. They said that I will remain on this but with them saying about limited time what does that mean for me and people like me. It is all very confusing
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      · 19 days ago
      @Ash6f As you are receiving UC your money will not change if in the future ESA ceases to exist. Your UC will go up by the amount you stop receiving from ESA. At the moment your ESA is being counted as income and deducted from your UC. You will be currently getting UC LCWRA - ESA support group counted as income = UC amount.

      According to the Pathways to Work green paper the government plans to abolish contributions based ESA / New Style ESA in 2028/29 and instead have a time limited 6 or 12 months contributions based unemployment benefit.

      It is unclear if existing claimants will be exempt or be affected. And if affected unclear if they will simply close ESA to new claimants then say 6 or 12 months latter close ESA for current recipients or if they will go to the bother of migrating people from ESA to the new time limited Unemployment Benefit and then 6 or 12 months later they hit the time limit and it stops. But as mentioned whichever way they do it as you get UC if you lose in ESA or if migrated contributions based Unemployment you will gain the same amount in UC so no financial effect.

      Another planned change might effect you as from 2028/29 the government plans to abolish the Work Capability Assessment and LCW and LCWRA/support group. And instead have UC health (for existing claimants same amount as LCWRA/support) based on receiving PIP daily living. As long as you receive PIP daily living and continue to do so you should be unaffected financially.

      They also plan to change the PIP assessment system sometime after the Timms review reports in Autumn 2026. Existing claimants might/probably will be exempt from the change in PIP eligibility criteria for all their future reassessments. And if not those with ongoing or indefinite PIP awards should in theory be unaffected as their awards have no end date and light touch reviews do not trigger reassessment unless a relevant change in circumstance is reported.

      And all the above could change as Starmer is having difficulty getting Labour rebels to agree to his welfare changes. And the way things are going it is possible Starmer could be replaced as Labour leader next year if Labour does badly in next May's local elections. 
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    · 19 days ago
    Steve darling is my local mp… he will fight for us all.. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Justin@73 Please do thank him. Stephen Kinnock is mine. A disgrace of an MP.   
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      · 19 days ago
      @Debbie Thank him. My MP Jack Abbott won't. We have yet another toadie MP and, a millennial as well.
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    · 20 days ago
    Many thanks to John with a capital 'J' on this site and for B&W acknowledging John pointing this out!

    I am in the category of 'LWCRA' indefinitely, currently as it stands. However, descriptor 7 in the amendments to protect us has left a lacuna.

    Or more to the Point Mr Timm's and his 'Timms' report omitted it with intent!

    With staff currently employed at the DWP they are either through insufficient training or the job has gone to their heads attempting to make their own sanctions when there are NO sanctions there in the 1st place for them to be making those demands.

    All I am going to say is this IT HAS ALREADY caused harm! PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO FULFILL THOSE DEMANDS HENCE REASON  CLAIMANTS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THAT CATEGORY 

    If this is NOT raised then I can see a fatality occurring at the Job Centres and with the  inadequately qualified Work Coaches that they are bragging about!


     
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      · 18 days ago
      @Ilo David Cameron's/Clegg's government abolished my indefinite award
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      · 18 days ago
      @Ilo Ilo
      Yes I am under the impression that definite awards were abolished when DLA was replaced with pip . I was on indefinite high rate mobility , under DLA, under pip im standard rate and reviewed every so many years . 
      I also have felt that harm caused by DWP , is intentional. 
      A few years back I had one of my several mental breakdowns , and vented my frustration to my psychiatrist. He was pretty casual about the whole welfare system and naive , “if you struggle , you will get benefits , just inform them , you are worse and they can upgrade your benefit , to get more support, that’s what it’s there for”. 
      lo
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      · 19 days ago
      @D2 I didn't think anyone had an indefinite award. What does lacuna mean? The DWP are incompetent, negligent and I believe in some cases intentionally causing harm. I do believe that some of their staff have biased and compromised personal vendettas against disabled. Call me paranoid, but many decisions look like that to me. Their interpretations are incorrect. Why is that?
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    · 20 days ago
    Claiming PIP in the future after Nov 2026 will be even more challenging. Semantics and hair splitting will become order of the day to grind anyone legitimate out. If the parliamentary cabinet wont even listen to its own MP’s what real hope do disabled people have in shaping future reform policy. I find Kendall nothing short of revolting, her forlorn facial expressions in photos, I found seriously offensive. Irrespective of any progress to be made with PIP reform if this government only lasts one term, its likely Reform will gain power, if they do, they promise even greater welfare cuts than Kendall, Reeves and Starma meaning any real progression for disabled people will be very short lived.
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      · 19 days ago
      @TitanAX9901 Her behaviour is disturbing to me. Don't know why she's in the Labour party, she's more suited to IDS's cronies. And as the Timms...I have only contempt for that sorry excuse of a man.
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    · 20 days ago
    Call me cynical, but I sense PIP reviews were suddenly taking a lot longer to get decisions. I think it was because they were trying to hang out decisions until the new legislation. Hopefully, things might speed up again now. It could of course be that the DWP are an increasing omni-shambles and that's what's causing the delays I guess so incompetence, rather than malicious intent if I'm being generous.
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      · 16 days ago
      @J. I returned my review forms at the beginning of February.

      I had a text message to say they had received them and then I received the following text message in May - 

      ‘We still have your PIP form and will be progressing your review as soon as we can. You may still need an assessment with a health professional. Your PIP will continue to be paid until we review your claim. You only need to contact us if your circumstances change.’

      Since then I have heard nothing and my current award runs until the third week of July. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Sean I’ve been wondering that too-I returned a review form in April and I SHOULD have had a decision by now.
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      · 19 days ago
      @Ash6f they will tell you on the phone they just say that in the text to stop you calling. Same thing happened to myself and my brother we both got a years extension whilst the dwp took months to reassess our reviews then a week or two later both get a text saying a decison has been made and not to call. We called and both times they told us the outcome and even the points we scored on descriptors. I urge you to call them instead of waiting a week for a letter
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      · 19 days ago
      @Ash6f Same happened to me last year. 
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      · 19 days ago
      @Sean I have just had a tx stating my review is complete one week after a letter to state they have extended my claim for a year as they have not looked at my review yesterday now after 7 months of sending back my review forms I have to wait for a letter to tell me if it is done or not cause they won't tell me on the phone 
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    · 20 days ago
    We need to keep this momentum going. When are they planning on bringing these other bills? Is there any proposed dates yet? 

    I'm particularly interested in the esa - limited sickness benefits. All of these cuts make me so angry, the vast majority if people who are too sick to work need to be supported not thrown on the scrap heap. 

    Genuine question- if your not entitled to means tested benefits and you use your 6months ir 12months sickness benefit which ever might be decided/ proposed. What happens then? ( maybe this is were the assisted dying bill kicks in.....) 

    The UK is in a dire state!
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    · 20 days ago
    Just to think I voted for these bunch of clowns, makes me want to rip my own head off. I will never forgive myself. lucky for me I'm not religious, because there would be no place in heaven for me. Doesn't matter though anyway because life is hell every day. On a bright note......... Yeh nothing 
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      · 19 days ago
      @Cuckoo21 and out of all people we have Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell defending us...   The irony!!!   
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      · 19 days ago
      @Cuckoo21 I'm not religious I have a faith it's the only thing in life that gives me comfort and hope, and don't be hard on yourself they all lie and Labour used to be so for the people... but now are any of them? God Bless x

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