Labour has repeatedly claimed that “only” one in ten claimants will lose their PIP daily living component as a result of the four-point rule.  But the Office for Budget Responsibility’s (OBR) latest estimate is that one in four of all claimants who are assessed will lose their award.  Which one is correct?

OBR figures

The OBR published a supplementary forecast the day after the first reading of the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.  It now considers that “roughly a quarter” of all PIP claimants assessed between November 2026 and March 2030 will lose their daily living award.

What they say in detail is:

“We expect 1.64 million PIP claimants will have an award review between November 2026 and March 2030. Of these, we expect roughly a quarter (430,000) will lose their daily living award as a result of the tightened criteria. We expect the net impact of these additional disallowals on the caseload to be 390,000 by March 2030,1 as 40,000 of those disallowed due to the policy would have subsequently left the caseload later in the forecast period.”

So, in total the OBR estimates that 430,000 out of 1.64 million claimants will lose their PIP daily living.  But because they consider that 40,000 of those claimants would have lost their award for other reasons in that period anyway, then the final figure is 390,000 fewer awards as a result of the four-point rule.

Government figures

Yet the impact assessment published by the government the day before uses the previous OBR estimate of 370,000 – only 20,000 different - losing their award, but claims that this means “around 9 in 10 of the original  caseload are not affected.”

So which is it – one in ten or one in four?

DWP ruses

The DWP have used two ruses to get the lower figure.

The first is that they have included pension age PIP claimants in their total number of awards, even though they insist that pension age claimants will not be affected.

The OBR have only looked at the 3 million working age PIP claimants, not the 3.7 million total number of PIP claimants.

The second DWP ruse is to pretend that all claimants will have been reassessed in this period.  In fact, the OBR expects only 1.64 million claimants to have been reassessed by March 2030.  This leaves another 1.36 claimants still waiting to be reassessed by 2036.

If the one in four figure holds good for all reassessments, then the final number will be nearer 715,000 PIP daily living claims cut by 2036/37 when all reassessment have been completed.

What happens after 2028?

In fact, neither of these estimates may be anywhere near the truth, because disability minister Stephen Timms has already begun a review of the PIP assessment system in which descriptors, scores and everything else is up for grabs.

Timms’ new PIP assessment system is due to be introduced in 2028 and may have a dramatic effect on how many PIP claims are cut.  It will be in Labour’s power to make the PIP scoring system much more generous or much harsher.

For example, removing just one point from the 4 point descriptor “1 (e) Needs supervision or assistance to either prepare or cook a simple meal.” would mean over thirty percent of claimants who currently get four points would no longer do so and would lose their award on reassessment.

The reality is that if the four point rule makes it into law, it gives Labour the power to adjust the number of PIP awards in any way they want, with just a few simple tweaks to the scores.

So, by 2030, both the one in ten estimate and the one in four estimate may both be wide of the mark.

But, in the meantime, it might be worth sharing that one in four figure and a link to the OBR supplementary forecast with your MP, before next Tuesday’s debate.

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    · 51 minutes ago
    If this is all referring to the pip issue specifically what about those who are on UC/LCWRA only. Where does that leave those people?
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    · 8 hours ago
    These labour mp rebels might be one of the few things that stop the Labour Party from general election wipeout in 2029

    I was really hoping that prehaps starmer would realise he’s being advised badly, remember he used to have morals and have a true relaunch of his premiership - but in the last fortnight he’s come across as a nasty piece of work that is overly keen to be a wartime pm and trumps personal lapdog.

    Starmers position is becoming more and more untenable- problem is Labour don’t really have a good replacement in the wings (both streeting and rayner are pretty bad - and sadly the only figure imo that could unite both Labour wings in Andy burham isn’t an mp)

    So I guess we are heading towards one hell of a messed up reform gov in 4yrs as there may be too much damage for starmer to repair now
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    · 8 hours ago
    And then we hit the earth with a bump.  According to the BBC, the Tories are in discussions as to whether they should vote for the bill instead of against it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d6947ej5ro
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    · 9 hours ago
    I think it's the right moment to change tack slightly.  If our MP is on the list of signatures of the amendment, we need to send them a message of thanks and support.  The list of signatures should be made public tonight, and this will be the first time we know the full list of names of those against the cuts.  For many, this will be the first time they have ever rebelled against their party (many are still rookie MPs), and they know they are possibly risking their future careers by doing so.  We have moaned a lot about MPs lately, but showing support to them now might make all the difference here.   If they are supporting us, we should support them.
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      · 8 hours ago
      @SLB Well said SLB, they absolutely should hear from us. This is no small risk for them. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    I know who I believe and it's not heartless wannabe Tories who are blaming and using disabled people as fodder for there fellow politicians ineptitude.
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    · 10 hours ago
    From the BBC about the rebellion.  This could be it!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d6947ej5ro
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Gingin Yeah, my eyes somehow skipped that bit.  But would Labour want to win a vote by relying on a possible Tory helping hand, despite the fact Labour have a 160+ majority?  It would be a very bad look. 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Gingin Could starmer do a detail with kemi for her to whip her Tory MPs to vote for the bill or abstain?

      At the end of the day her main goal is to embarrass or get one over her Labour counterpart - and there are many ways for her to achieve that 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @SLB I hope so. This could be the fly in the ointment though? -

      ‘Earlier, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said she did not want to alert Labour to her plans before the welfare reform bill was voted on.

      A senior Conservative source said the shadow cabinet would be discussing whether to help the government vote through the welfare reforms when they meet on Tuesday morning.’


      The BBC are looking more and more like the government’s mouthpiece on these reforms! (end of the article)
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      · 9 hours ago
      @SLB @SLB It's looking very promising but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much....
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    · 10 hours ago
    DWP disability benefit cuts shock as plans rejected by over 70 Labour MPs

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-chief-liz-kendall-warned-35439705
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      · 9 hours ago
      @James According to the mirror article 10 of the 27 committee chairs have signed the amendment. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    Let’s all prey breaking news tonight the government committee board have tabled a new amendment to squash the reform against disabled people the amendment was done tonight by the committee and have already got near 100 signatures actually figures will be out tonight at 1030pm this amendment will be good news at last this will make Kendall starmer and co furious. The committee have said the government didn’t listen to us privately and now we have gone public. Let’s all prey to end this cruel way of doing reform and let the government actually listen to us and charities and do the reform in a human way thank you for reading my post 
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    · 10 hours ago
    PIP has allowed people who are not working to live a better life, not just scrape by on JSA. As my income increased I could afford better food, a better vehicle, treats for my Grandchildren and much more. We have gained a higher standard, a higher status, a levelling up of income with those we used to be. I don't want to give this up, go back to dark, colourless days. PIP gave me a new look on life, a new life, it restored my equality. 
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      · 58 minutes ago
      @Sean pip keeps me independent. god knows what the cost would be if I had to get others to read and write things for me. it also gives me the privacy and mobility sighted people take for granted. I can also pay for sighted help when the tech just won't do things. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    Labour MPs mount major bid to block benefits changes


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d6947ej5ro

    This could be swinging in our favour. Hope pressure is being applied to Hoyle to call this amendment.
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    · 10 hours ago
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk.

    The Independent has been told that MPs – including ministers – considering rebelling against the government’s welfare reforms on Tuesday next week have been threatened with losing the whip and even, according to two sources, deselection.

    The issue came to a head in a fiery meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party addressed by work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall on Monday evening (23rd June), with several MPs privately claiming it could end up with Keir Starmer being forced out as leader.
    But the new amendment, which is understood to be fronted by the Treasury select committee chair Meg Hillier and other committee chairs, may garner even more support.
    Lets hope it does!
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    · 10 hours ago
    I’ve emailed my Lib Dem MP with this info. Thanks B&W 
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    · 10 hours ago
    *She will have additional info after 10pm this evening. 

    @romillyweeks 
    ITV News
    The amendment opposing the Govt’s Welfare Bill has been tabled. I understand 80 MPs have signed and that doesn’t include any of the Socialist Campaign Group who are also opposed. So unless they come up with concessions the Govt would be heading for defeat next wk @itvnews
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    · 10 hours ago
    This is the kind of thing I dream of:

    ‘The issue came to a head in a fiery meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party addressed by work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall on Monday evening with several MPs privately claiming it could end up with Keir Starmer being forced out as leader.
    ….
    One senior MP told The Independent: “The sharks are circling around the prime minister.”


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefit-cuts-welfare-reform-labour-mps-starmer-b2775230.html





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    · 11 hours ago
    DWP are very good at sanctioning benefit claimants often for trivial infringements! 

    So given there are so many inaccuracies in what the minister says and what was published in it’s woefully inadequate impact assessment, I think it’s time that DWP, the minister and government should all be sanctioned when they tell these lies. Now the OBR supplementary forecasts is confirming our worst fears and what we could all see for ourselves yet they keep spouting these lies!!!

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