Labour ministers have resorted to online scam techniques to try to force their PIP and UC cuts through the Commons on Tuesday. And there’s a strong chance that their dubious promise to exempt current claimants from the cuts is, in reality, only a two year reprieve.

But its not too late to for you to try to stop them, as one MP has confirmed.

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Ordinarily MPs would know what they were agreeing to when a bill is presented for its first vote. 

And if they do vote in favour, there is then a committee stage at which a group of MPs look at possible amendments, consult with experts - -such as disability groups in this case – before presenting amendments to be considered by the whole House. 

This process usually takes weeks or, for a bill that will affect millions of people like this one, even months.

There is then a final vote on the amended bill, at what is called the third reading.  But it’s incredibly rare for the government to lose at this stage – the last time it happened was 48 years ago

After the final vote, the bill goes to the Lords, to be carefully scrutinised again.

But in the case of Tuesday’s bill, MPs won’t actually know what they are voting for. 

Because ministers have promised there will be amendments which will exempt all current claimants, but they probably won’t even have been published by Tuesday.

MPs will just have to trust ministers who say that what they are actually voting for – the 4 point rule applying to all claimants – is not what will really happen.

Chaotic few hours

And then, a week after Tuesday’s vote, the entire months long committee stage will be shrunk into a few chaotic hours in front of the whole house, voting on amendments they have barely seen and with no chance to get advice from experts.

And, what is more, the government have applied to have the bill certified as a money bill.  If the Speaker agrees, then the Lords will have no power to change any of it.  Even if they do try, it will automatically be passed without change after one month.

Online scammers

Isn’t this exactly how online scammers work? 

Promise to save you from losing all your money as long as you hand over your account details immediately.  Quickly, quickly.  No time to talk to anyone, don’t hang up the phone, do it now or it will be too late. You’ll lose everything.

And yet, in reality even if the PIP cuts are put into law this month, they don’t actually take effect until November 2026. That’s sixteen months from now.

So, why can’t they be properly discussed and put into a separate piece of legislation next year?

Unless Labour have things to hide.

Labour’s dodgy promise

Labour’s promise to exempt all current claimants from the PIP and UC cuts may not be all it seems.

Kendall’s letter says that in relation to PIP, “The new eligibility requirements will be implemented from November 2026 for new claims only.”

But she says nothing about what happens in 2028, when disability minister Stephen Timms has finished rewriting the PIP eligibility criteria and the new rules are put into law. 

Labour says the new PIP rules will be coproduced with disability organisations.  But who honestly believes those groups will be given a veto on anything, especially with the government determined to cut costs?

So, if Timms decides that the four-point rule is a good one and should stay, then under the terms of Kendall’s letter, it will apply to current claimants from 2028.

Kendall also says “we will adjust the pathway of universal credit payment rates to make sure all existing recipients of the UC health element . . .  have their incomes fully protected in real terms.”

But she doesn’t say what will happen in 2028, when the work capability assessment is abolished and only claimants with an award of PIP daily living component are eligible for the UC health element. 

If current claimants are not exempt from this change as well, then 600,000 who don’t get PIP daily living will no longer have their income protected.  And if the PIP four point rule is also incorporated in the new PIP assessment from 2028, then hundreds of thousands more current claimants who don’t get four points, will lose their health element when they lose their PIP.

Contacting your MP will make a difference

Now, none of this may be what ministers intend.  But MPs voting on Tuesday won’t have a clue what they do intend, because the whole process has become a chaotic shambles – in spite of the fact it has the power to plunge hundreds of thousands of disabled people into poverty.

So, please consider contacting your MP and asking them to vote for a planned Labour amendment – which, ironically none of us has seen yet – which will give MPs more time to consider the cuts.  And if that fails, then vote against the bill in its entirety.

You won’t be wasting your time.  There are still rumoured to be 50 or 60 determined Labour rebels, with many more unsure what to do.

And, as one MP told the BBC yesterday,

"it shouldn't be underestimated the potential effect of a weekend of emails from constituents, constituency surgeries etc".

Let yours be one of them.

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    · 1 hours ago
    I understand why people are against taking the concessions, but I don't think people have necessarily thought through what that might mean.  So, forgive me for being blunt.

    At the moment, the concessions would stop 375,000 current claimants from losing their benefits by the end of the decade.  It would also prevent anyone who starts their claim over the next 18 months from having to be under the 4 point rule, as they would be current claimants by November 2026.

    But what are the alternatives?  Well, basically for the whole bill to be voted down.  But people are very naive if they think that's the end of it.  

    Most likely, a new bill with new cuts would be introduced in the autumn.  These cuts aren't going to go away.  And while the new bill might not be quite as harsh as the current unamended one, it most certainly would not be as "generous" as the concessions we are offered now.  Many of the 375,000 would still lose their benefits.  Can you live with that?

    If a new bill isn't forthcoming, there's even the possibility that THIS bill returns, unamended, and tied into the November budget, where it would get voted through because a budget is basically a confidence vote. 

    So, while it might turn your stomachs to see the concessions for 375,000 current claimants and those in the system by November 2026 to be voted through, the alternative is quite possibly going  to be worse, where nearly EVERYONE could still lose their benefits - including future claimants.

    So you have a dilemma: do you look after those 375,000 people, prevent them from going into poverty, and also those who apply within 18 months?  Or do you gamble everything, knowing full well that EVERYBODY could be worse off?  And for those saying "we shouldn't ignore the new claimants of the future," are you willing to risk the welfare of 375,000 people to follow your (albeit commendable) ideology? YOU might be willing to take the risk, but have you asked the other 374,999 people on benefits what they think?  These are 375,000 real people whose lives you are playing with.  

    The PIP form review is where we can fight for a fair form and rules for everyone.  The bill that is forthcoming, dealing with the changes to LCWRA eligibility is another place where we can fight for new claimants.  But, at the moment, I say "stick" with the current offer rather than saying "twist" and risk losing absolutely everything for everyone.
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      · 15 minutes ago
      @SLB @SLB For someone who accused this article of scaremongering, you seem to have gone down the same road in 10 league boots.  There are many experienced MPs, disability groups and individuals who think we should keep fighting. There will be many of them outside Parliament on Monday.  Are they all naive as well.  

      If the bill was put into the next budget that would be the nuclear option and could very well bring down the government rather than getting passed - I'm not convinced that Starmer would be willing to take that chance to save just £5 billion.

      You say "YOU might be willing to take the risk, but have you asked the other 374,999 people on benefits what they think? These are 375,000 real people whose lives you are playing with."  

      But that's not how democracy works.  You are free to contact your MP and tell them you want them to vote for the bill.  I am free to contact my MP and tell him I want him to vote against it.  And the other 374,998 people are free to contact their MPs and tell them what they want.  And then, the MPs will have the final say.

      That's not playing with other people's lives, it's just allowing us to have our say - just like you are having yours.
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    · 2 hours ago
    YES we do have to think about those who will come after us.

    Children will still be born with disabilities and life-long ill health (close your eyes and picture that mother and father right now being given that news )
    Road traffic accidents will still happen disabling and deforming people for life (close your eyes and picture those people right now)
    Someone under the age of 21 can be healthy on a Monday but then on a Tuesday have a life-long condition diagnosed. (close your eyes and picture those young people now being given that news and having that youthful sparkle in their eyes extinguished)

    Do you recognize those children, those adults, those youth. YOU SHOULD we were/are them.


    This Governments pathetic 'last minute' concessions are NOT ENOUGH

    Besides as in my previous post. Can we actually TRUST them to stand by their word that it will NOT affect existing claimants they will have reassessments rushed through and they will change the goalposts. 

    WHERE IS IT WRITTEN IN THE AMENDMENTS/CONCESSIONS. IT IS DAMN WELL NOT!
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      · 1 hours ago
      @D2 Today's ordinary people and tomorrow's unborn children will lose their safety net with this government. Don't have a work related accident, don't have children who have deformities or major illnesses, and don't expect this so called unprogressively government to help you with a a proper safety net for you, your family, and your friends. This government is dismantling all your protection right from under your feet! Rise up and protest as they use your contributions to deny you your safety net!
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    · 2 hours ago
    'Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/28/disabled-labour-mp-olivia-blake-welfare-bill-u-turn-starmer
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    · 2 hours ago
    Disabled Labour MP says welfare U-turn would create ‘unethical two-tier system’
    Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm

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    · 2 hours ago
    I read this and thought well we are being goverened by a lawyer and so what I read has not surprised me.  I have emailed my MP but as he is a conservative I doubt my comments will cut much ice.
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    · 2 hours ago
    Starmer ,Reeves ,Kendall  & Timms need to resign with immediate effect they and each one of them are incompetent running office and just maybe and only maybe the Labour Party might actually achieve something after wasting a year of being in Government therefore, we must never forget what they have put us through in the last three months.
    Until another day we have to fight for what we are as individuals real people as I like to say…
    And I’ve said this before- the government and the other political parties too should be NOT always be looking down on the vulnerable and the poorest of society but, UP to the resilient and richest of people who have for decades had it so good and a little more tax of their selfish wealth would help this economy far better and much less hassle for the better of this country.
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    · 3 hours ago
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1257987772358855&id=100044429319599&set=a.482963379861302.
    Richard Burgon will be presenting his petition against benefit cuts to parliament on Monday. Still time to sign and share 
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    · 3 hours ago
    Richard Burgon petition. Still time to sign.https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/tax-the-super-rich-0924
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    · 3 hours ago
    I just wish I knew which MP's have changed their minds. 
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      · 1 hours ago
      @Cuckoo21 Meg Hillary but I hope she realises she has been played
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    · 3 hours ago
    A lot of the focus of the criticisms of the PiP UC concessions package has been understandably on the iniquity of a 'two tier' system and the fate of people newly signed up to PiP or a health related UC.

    But I think that there also significant potential and very serious detriments to legacy cliaimants.  What happens when people have to notify DWP of a 'change in circumstances' or a change in their condition? Both of which claimants are required to do, and can face sanctions if they do not.  
    As I understand it people curently on PiP and/ or a health related UC will be protected when they face a routine review of their claim. All PiP or UC awards are time limited and at the end of the award period claimants face a review.  
    Liz Kendall is saying that they that they  will be assessed using the legacy criteria I.e not subject to the new 4 points rule. 
    But at the moment if you notify DWP of a 'change of circumstances' which can be as little as a change of address or notify them of a change in your health condition you face 

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    · 3 hours ago
    on our X account 

    MPS should not trust a woman who is odd enough to have a "dream Job" ambition of running the DWP, a man who walks around collapsed women to exit a place quickly to avoid TRUE scrutiny and A PM trying to ram through months of stages of a bill in a day avoiding the lords & examinations. #TakingThePIP #LabourLies stand your ground and vote this bill into the gutter where it belongs #falseconcessions #sneaky #StarmerOutNow

    they need to wake up fast keep playing games with people's lives and heads.
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    · 3 hours ago
    Just my tuppence worth. Firstly: As an existing PIP claimant, I’m alright, Jack, but I can’t in good conscience support a bill that fails those who will need support in the future. As many others have said, this is divisive and unfair. Secondly: One has to remember that almost nobody - working or otherwise - is “safe” beyond the immediate future. A wealth tax is really the only way to address the concerns and resentments of the working poor/middle class and perhaps prevent vastly more pernicious elements from attaining power. This govt is highly unstable and out of touch with the concerns of its constituents, which isn’t good news for anyone. Hopefully something better will be tabled. 
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    · 4 hours ago
    I have written to my MP. I am so confused with regards to new style ESA (contribution based) current support group claiments with what's happening & when. 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @D2 Is it the same for income based ESA based support group migration to UC? Or is it just a problem with contributions based ESA? 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @KT Contribution based ESA isn't being migrated to UC. It's being replaced by a new health insurance for new claimants. I'm not sure what is going to happen to us existing recipients. 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @KT
      Hi KT

      I am in the same position as you on that KT it is because it has been accelerated to get us all moved across. They have rushed it through that quickly that questions people such as ourselves with this, 'dual element of new style ESA and UC that they are NOT equipped to answer! It is a shambolic mess!

      I spoke to CAB this week regarding the same/similar issues that have been thrown my way.

      I was told by the CAB Advisor that I spoke with (initially I called due to what should have been an answer to a simple question regarding the confusion with the new style ESA and the UC (dual)) BUT they could NOT answer it! So then I got put through a call where the DWP staff member did NOT listen and was oppressive and actually RUDE! 

      Therefore, because of this rush, rush, with the DWP I was told by the CAB advisor that the 'Expert Advisors' at CAB have/are recognizing that migrating across when in the support Group is causing NO END of problems.' When being migrated across with transitional protection. 
      Lets try and stay strong KT 
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    · 4 hours ago
    I still need to fill in the Consultation.  Can anyone give any advice on how to fill in or possibly share some of their responses?
      
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    · 4 hours ago
    What has never been explained is this: if the PIP assessment is the gateway to UC Health, who then gets PIP? Because the “severe conditions criteria” only apply to getting UC Health on a permanent basis as you’ll never be well enough to work.

    Therefore, who will get PIP and what is it for?  Is this omission paving the way to abolish PIP? It certainly smells like that to me,
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      · 14 minutes ago
      @Yorkie Bard Actually there is a carer element to ESA which may still be there.
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Sorry - last post on the complexities of all this - I cannot claim pension credit because my wife is still 10 years off pensionable age.
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Additional info

      I used to get carer's allowance for helping my wife - that stopped when the state pension started.

      My wife cannot claim carer's allowance for helping me - because she gets ESA.

      It is a minefield & about to get worse!

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      · 3 hours ago
      @piglet292 Hi Piglet292

      Exactly that once again things that have never been explained and answers to questions that are raised they have NO answer because the small details have never been drafted!

      I think you maybe right further down the line because the small details were omitted it allows them to be able to easily move the goalposts.



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      · 3 hours ago
      @piglet292 piglet292

      The answer to you question is that people can get PIP without UC.

      My wife is not on UC as she is on contributory ESA.
      She is in receipt of PIP mobilty & daily living..

      I am not on UC as I am in receipt of State Pension.
      I am in receipt of PIP mobilty & daily living.
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    · 4 hours ago
    Ive copied and paste these questions to my MP too. He never votes against the government but I've done my best these past few weeks in sending emails, and having a long conversation on the phone.

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    · 4 hours ago
    In my opinion the alleged concessions have NOT been put in writing. Last minute shambolic attempt for Starmer, Reeves, Kendall to still rush this bill without proper scrutiny therefore, I do NOT trust them to deliver on their last minute attempt to bribe the rebel MP's with these latest concessions they propose. That existing claimants will NOT be subjected to the 4 point rule. 

    How can a 2 tier system work? It cannot!

    This is yet more trickery and bribery. In my opinion. 

    Leaving loose ends to be written in later the small details being left out with the frenzied rush by the Government to get everything through. 

    We have or most of us have experienced the migration from ESA to UC whereby AGAIN different claimants falling into different categories of how the transitional element of UC protection is made up AGAIN finding out that you have contribution based ESA topped up with income related premiums. Just one example of how things were NEVER clearly explained or NEVER entered into legislation. Causing shocks to claimants even, with the managed migration from ESA to UC to be informed, that you have contribution NI attached to your claim as such more confusion to claimants and this rush, rush and details being missed.

    Those on LCWRA ESA who do NOT claim PIP again this rush, rush full details of where they stand being missed out.

    Then, people on this site being faced with shocks during migration with ESA to UC with their council tax. AGAIN because of this rush, rush and details being missed out. Then threatened with baliffs if they did NOT pay the council tax added on by THEIR ERRORS not the claimants! AGAIN this rush, rush, culminating in the small details, being missed!

    Therefore, have we all NOT had enough to sort out thus far over the small details NOT historically being made clear/included?

    In my lifetime this current Government has been the most slippery sly oppressive, cruel and inhumane to date so I think that the small details, the finer details DO NEED TO BE DRAFTED IN NOW. 

    As it is the lack of the finer details NOT being finalized that will cause the shambolic chaos further down the line. As such if this passes a money bill we WILL NOT have case  law to fall back on.

    Timm's installing of arrogance within his staff where they are NOT always correct because of this rush, rush failing to understand that claimants migrating in across in the support Group on ESA that status migrates with them so NO work commitments but then making demands all because of this constant rush, rush 

    To me it is suspicious and we have NO guarantee without the details being drafted in NOW that they will stick to their word. 


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    · 5 hours ago
    Amanda Akass from Sky News says Labour MPs planning to rebel on the welfare bill next week have set up their own WhatsApp group. She said it already has 50 members.

    One rebel tells me a 50 strong Whatsapp group has already been created for Labour MPs who are still planning to vote against the welfare bill - “so it’s perfectly plausible we’ll get back to bill killing numbers over the weekend” @SkyNews

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      · 1 hours ago
      @Kevin. One MP said it was only 'a handful' of MPs who WERE happy with the concessions. That's not to say all those who are unhappy will vote against (by any means), but I think it does mean that more MPs than are in that Whats App group will. 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Gingin Is 50 enough? I thought that even when it was nearly 150 rebelling against it it still wasn't enough. It all seems to be futile and Starmer has won as the Tories are most likely to vote for cuts. 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Gingin Wouldn't that be nice? Hopefully this 'u turn' has enraged the tories so much that there isn't a hope a single one will for it. I have no idea if they are all expected to vote the same way or are allowed autonomy. 

      I can't see how an MP with half a brain can reasonably vote for this. Just seeing how rushed it is should raise major concerns.
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    · 6 hours ago
    Breaking on radio 4 news, UNITE calling the new concessions 'divisive and sinister'.
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    · 6 hours ago
    That's another email sent to my MP. He must be getting sick of me. He was one of the rebels voting against the bill, but I have sent him this article so he can make an informed decision and hopefully not get taken in by these dubious concessions. Please can everyone do the same if able to. 
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      · 5 hours ago
      @Cuckoo21 Same my MP did vote against and I thanked him but last night also sent a email from scope with my own personal bit added to say why  not to  vote for the proposed bill .