There was little comfort for sick and disabled claimants from the Labour Party conference this week, as sections of shadow work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall’s speech would not have sounded out of place at last week’s Conservative conference

At both events, speakers decried the fact that two million people were currently receiving benefits as incapable of work and guaranteed that this would change.

Labour undertook to reform universal credit whilst the Conservatives promised to reform the work capability assessment.

Both promised a massive improvement in employment support.

And both asserted that work is good for more than just your financial wellbeing.

Most of all, both insisted that those who can work, must work.

Whilst many people could agree with most of those statements, the problem is that both parties have a long history of causing immense misery as they seek to distinguish those who can’t work from those who, in their view, can but won’t. 

And even more suffering as they impose penalties on the second group.

In her speech, Kendall told Labour delegates:

“Conference, Britain isn’t working. 

Over two million people shut out of the workplace because of sickness or disability, want to work.

The over 50s, especially women struggling with poor physical health and caring responsibilities.

Young people with mental health problems lacking basic qualifications, on the back foot before they’ve even begun. 

Under Labour, this will change.

Our top priority will be ensuring everyone who can work, does.

Because we believe the benefits of work go beyond a payslip.

And in the dignity and self-respect good work brings.

So we will tear down the barriers to success.

We’ll tackle the root causes of worklessness, recruiting thousands more mental health staff and overhauling skills.

So no-one is ever written off again, whatever their age.

We’ll transform employment support so it’s tailored to individual and local needs  . . .

This is our contract with the British people:  real opportunities, matched by the responsibility to take them up.” 

Kendall also told conference:

“We will reform universal credit to protect people when they need it and to genuinely make work pay. We’ll champion equality for disabled people.”

Compare Kendall’s words with speeches from last week’s Conservative conference.

The prime minister said:

“. . .our benefits system declares that more than two million people of working age are incapable of actually doing any.

it’s a tragedy for those two million people being written off.

I refuse to accept this and that is why we are going to change the rules so that those who can work, do work.”

Meanwhile, chancellor Jeremy Hunt told delegates:

“That safety net is paid from tax. And that social contract depends on fairness to those in work alongside compassion to those who are not.

That means work must pay… and we’re making sure it does.”

And work and pensions secretary, Mel Stride, explained:

“Having a job isn’t just good for your finances – it’s good for your mental and physical wellbeing too.

And it pains me to think there are so many people being left on benefits who want to work and who could be thriving in work. It’s a waste of human potential . . .

So we are reforming our sickness and disability benefit assessments for the first time in over a decade, to take account of the modern workplace.

That is going hand-in-hand with a revolution in the employment support we’re providing for people with health problems and disabilities.”

So, the message, it seems is much the same.  Perhaps the difference, if Labour gets in, will be in the delivery.

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    Person18313 · 7 months ago
    I just hope that when Labour introduces more devolved powers, this will include Wales/Scotland being given more power to set their own standards and protections from Westminster decision making. So in Wales or Scotland, the devolved governments can prevent the inevitable harm and deaths caused by this very disappointing decision by Westminster Labour.
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      Jules0816 · 4 months ago
      @Person18313 The thing is, what happens to you if you live in England? We seem to get the roughest end of everything. :-(
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    Mrs Hurtyback · 7 months ago
    So, people with caring responsibilities will be forced into work. Then what is going to happen to the people they care for? 
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      UB40 Rumrunner · 3 months ago
      @Mrs Hurtyback Their be scratching their little heads at that one, as it wont be social care. 
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      Lisa101 · 6 months ago
      @Den
      They can only force work on carers if the person they care for loses their disability benefits.
      Yes. That's part of the plan. 
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      Den · 7 months ago
      @Mrs Hurtyback No.  They can only force work on carers if the person they care for loses their disability benefits. They cannot take away a needed carer from a sick and/or disabled claimant. They may make it more stringent to get carers but that is a different thing.
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    Ella50 · 7 months ago
    We have an ageing population ergo there WILL be more illness and disability as conditions deteriorate. People will have strokes, heart attacks etc, veterans will develop debilitating PTSD etc. Women (and men) will have to give up work to become carers for elderly parents and save the state billions in adult social care. How very inconsiderate of them all!
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    The dogmother · 7 months ago
    'The over 50's,especially women struggling with poor physical health,and caring responsibilities ' Kendall says in her speech.  
    As part of the 'work shy' combo they think exists, I guess her thinking is,  She's hit the nail on the head with that. If you are in  your 50's and struggle with bad health and have caring responsibilities then how the h*ll do you take on  work. ! Caring for someone is a job!!!! Struggling with health conditions is hard enough for those older people with others to care for. What world do they live in where you can seriously juggle all that and go out to work. I don't understand why there is barely a mention of any of this on the media. Where's all the kick back? The questions as to why again the sick are targeted,?
    Anybody who is against the sick and disabled for whatever reason need to take a long hard look at yourself. Anyone can become too ill to function. If you keep changing criteria for benefits for disability you don't cure those who dont fit when they once did,you just marginalise them And set them into deeper decline. The mind absolutely boggles.
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    Alan · 7 months ago
    I’m a member of the Labour Party and will be considering cancelling my subscription. 
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      Becca · 7 months ago
      @Alan I left the Labour Party some time ago because of their mantra about 'hard working families' and lumping all benefit claimants together as workshy. I had a feeling that they would come after the disabled and I was right.
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    welshval · 7 months ago
    Utterly depressing but what I expected .Both parties lying through their teeth pretending that this is about improving our lives when we know the real aim is to reduce the pittance we receive now these are Victorian ideas akin to the workhouse system. Nobody please now suggest we vote Labour as the lesser of two evils
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      george · 7 months ago
      @welshval Unfortunately we dont know if !Labour will be better / worse or the same but we KNOW what the conservative are about after all these years under them so no way will i vote for them ! 
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    clearwater · 7 months ago
    Little comfort for claimants from Labour
     may be worse, just without the undisguised Torrie
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    AA · 7 months ago
    Both parties are dishonest in this, as they're both parroting as if people with disabilities and those with long term health conditions are claiming to work but they have been signed off work and are  barred from working without their consent, when in reality they simply want to force people to work, regardless of whether these can and/or want to work.

    Hypocrisy at its finest.
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    Carol K · 7 months ago
    AI is going to eliminate 75% of jobs. Then what happens when you have millions more unemployed? 
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    organic · 7 months ago
    I first started working from home in 2010 as a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act. My equipment was provided by Access to Work. Occupational Health said I was unable to sustain work 50% of the time. No further reasonable adjustments could be made to improve my attendance. I was terminated two weeks before the pandemic. How will their new concept of working from home help me?
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      Lisa101 · 6 months ago
      @JC
      Being "able to work" and being "actually employable" are not the same. How many disabled will have to suffer before they realize this?   
      Indeed. 
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      JC · 7 months ago
      @organic
      Sadly it won't. It's also one thing to get an existing employer to make an adjustment, but if you're a prospective hire they'll almost always find a way to hire somebody else. It's just more convenient.

      Being "able to work" and being "actually employable" are not the same. How many disabled will have to suffer before they realize this?     
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    Porridge · 7 months ago
    Three things. 1. Regards “re-skilling”: I would definitely approve of any government that lets people get another loan to do a second degree (not currently possible) or to be paid to do apprenticeships (even older adults 50+) if the industry or sector for which they were trained-in which they have got a degree or apprenticeship in, has dried up or disappeared forever due to a changing world. So re-skilling people properly is a good thing, if they are happy to find the vast amount of money required for that purpose. And 2. Labour has got to sound like the Tories right now because that is who they will need to vote for them if they ever hope to win, which is why Liz Kendall now sounds, likes and quacks like a Tory. Thirdly, personally I detest the Tories and I would never vote for them under any circumstances, but strangely, I have actually been better-off under Tory rule than I was when Labour was last in. But when I look around me I can see that hardly anyone else I know is.
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    Zon · 7 months ago
    Manipulative wording by both parties.
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    AW · 7 months ago
    Personally I would like to try my hand at some sort of Etsy crafts because that's all I could feasibly do given my disabilities. However there is no way that thia could be something that would come anywhere near replacing the LCWRA element and the SDP I currently get. What is needed is a guarantee that being able to work a few hours a week will not automatically throw you into the LCW because there destitution lies. If I get a little better I may not be eligible for PIP anymore, that's certainly always been my goal in 20 yra of therapy, but what incentive have I to make that happen now? I'll never be able to hold a normal job again, but if being able to be occasionally creative means they take all my money away to the point where I can no longer afford my rent contributions and all my bills, what would motivate me to get better? They are so focused on stripping away our support that they are removing our hope with it. They say they want to help us to work if we can, but when that makes us destitute, how is that helping?
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    AW · 7 months ago
    Not having a job when you capable of working may be bad for your health, having to work when you're not fit to work is definitely bad for your health. Just because most people in work are healthier than most people out of work doesn't mean work is the thing that is making them well. I can't believe that people swallow this bunkem.
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      Den · 7 months ago
      @AW People don't. Scumbag government detestables do
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      MrFibro · 7 months ago
      @AW Hi AW,

      Typical majority of British public swallow anything that politicians throw at them.  Take France there's no way they would stand for this nonsense.  Example the goverment had no chance to back down on trying to raise the pension age in France.  Why !!! because the public don't stand for it.  Brits just somehow except it.
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    The dogmother · 7 months ago
    Having a job is good for MH and physical conditions, ..what? Crawl to your job! Collapse at your job? Be so exhausted you can't barely stand. Not everybody can work from home. Those with multiple health Conditions ,how do they work? If you have say three Conditions and two are 'troubling' you,(for want of a better word,)daily, or all three, at some point in the day,or off and on each day non stop ,who employs you? I've 9 Conditions, some painful, and some life threatening, some lasting for weeks and weeks on end. Where do I get a job that let's me lie down for hours upon hours, every day,to try to sleep. I know I'm not the only one in that sinking boat.
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      Den · 7 months ago
      @The dogmother A relative recently had to leave work. He is a mess. He won benefits as he had two decent medical support letters. But the thing he had which I've never seen before was a letter of hope for support from the government for my nephew. The hope was there that he will improve. The letter itself though didn't stop there but pointed how willing he was to work but how catastrophically unsuited to that most basic of job roles. It pointed out just what extra hardships were faced by his work colleagues and managers. Just how badly his being unable to work effectively hit other people including customers. This support letter spoke of his nice characteristics but was clear as day that whether told to work by psychiatrists or nit to help him, that his falling apart daily at work could not be allowed to continue at work. That all adjustments had failed. Is this employer wrong to say that my nephew was detrimental to every aspect of his work environment. Is he supposed to disrupt employer functioning again and again. I know he upset staff and customers and damaged equipment. Perhaps his psychiatrists who saw him once a month were wrong. Perhaps work is not always good for mental health. He left work because he had to.
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      LJ · 7 months ago
      @The dogmother I’m in a very similar situation to you and totally agree. 
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      MrFibro · 7 months ago
      @The dogmother @ the dogmother,

      Exactly.
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    clearwater · 7 months ago
    Liz Kendall said

    Our top priority will be ensuring everyone who can work, does.

    ought to be 

    Our top priority will be ensuring everyone who wants to work, does.

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      UB40 Rumrunner · 3 months ago
      @JimmyAndrew I totally agree with you and hopefully people will have woken up now to the 2 party choice = what we have endured the past 30 years. None have been great, by a long chalk.
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      Fred · 6 months ago
      @MrFibro Economic incompetence. 
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      Lisa101 · 6 months ago
      @T I want to work, but there is no way I'd be able to cope. 
      Some voluntary work, when I'm able, that benefits society (and me) are not deemed valuable, though. 
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      JimmyAndrew · 7 months ago
      @MrFibro Could it be the law of diminishing returns? Over exploitation of resources and the cult of infinite growth means returns for elites & shareholders ain't what they used to be! So what to do?! Squeeze ever harder on the REAL working population of course! and restore order!! And if a few of them break along the way,  well that's just unfortunate!!

      Maybe we should start thinking about sending Tory para*ites from both parties to Rwanda??
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      Sally Ann · 7 months ago
      @T I fear we're going to end up in the work house.Anyone would think they were paying our benefits out of their own pockets.If we're well enough to work employ us all as work coaches.
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