The DWP have published an updated impact assessment showing that 150,000 people will be plunged into poverty by the revised PIP cuts by 2030, down from 250,000 under the original proposals.

The reduction in numbers is the result of the government exempting current claimants from the impact of the PIP 4-point rule, which will come into force in November 2026, if Labour is successful in getting its Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill through parliament over the coming weeks.  It also takes into account the fact that the universal credit health element will not be frozen for current claimants from April 2026.

Whilst the reduction in the numbers who will face poverty will be welcomed, there may still be reluctance amongst some Labour MPs to vote for legislation that plunges any disabled claimants into poverty.

In a separate announcement Labour have said that the terms of reference for the comprehensive review of the PIP assessment will be published today.

In addition, draft regulations for the new Right to Try Guarantee, “enshrining protections in law for disabled people and people with health conditions who want to try work” will also be published today.

Plus, the government amendments which will exempt current claimants from the 4-point system should be published today.

And somehow, MPs will be expected to read and understand all these documents in time for tomorrow’s debate and vote, which will affect the lives and livelihoods of millions of disabled claimants over the coming years.

You can read the revised impact statement here

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    · 2 months ago
    The events of the last few days prove beyond any doubt that this Labour government- at cabinet level at least- are completely oblivious to the lives of Benefits recipients. Starmer and his close coterie treat those on benefits as an afterthought at best. And the way they misread the mood of their own MPs on the PIP changes shows just how out of touch they are. 
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    · 2 months ago
    From guardian live text:

    Kendall says Pip claimants who get reassessed after November 2026 will be reassessed under new rules, not current ones
    Vicky Foxcroft, who resigned as a Labour whip over the bill, asked if the Timms review would have the power to review the budget savings being achieved by these cuts. And she asked what would happen if someone requested a reassessment because of worsening health conditions. Would they be reassessed under the old criteria or the new one?

    Kendall said that the Timms review was not being driven by the need to save money.

    (That did not fully address the question. Foxcroft wanted to know if it would be able to recommend more spending.)

    And Kendall said people can request a reassessment. If that happens before November 2026, that will be under the old system. After that, it will be under the new system, she said.

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    I though Timms reassessment reforms weren’t due to come in till 2028 earliest - Kendall clear suggests here that pip assessments due reforms will be in place at the same time that the 4pt rule comes in (November 2026)

    Basically this means that the gov concessions are worthless because we don’t know what descriptors and activities will be in the new assessment. The pts for a descriptor a claimant gets now may no longer be on the pip review form come nov 2026

    This government are bear faced liars and all rebels who can’t see the obvious screw over in Kendall’s commons statement and vote for this bill should be shamed and lose their seats asap

    There’s a quote from the hunger games series that seems relevant:

    “If we burn, you burn with us”

    Time to force the gov to bin this dehumanising bill and start from stratch (and fire mcsweeney, reeves, Kendall and timms as a peace offering)
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      · 2 months ago
      @D Exactly !!!
      They'll just change the descriptors after Timms review.
      I hope MPs note this.
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    · 2 months ago
    In response to a question , Kendall has said people who REQUEST a reassessment will get it under the new eligibility if after November 2026.  She seemed to fall over words at that point, so it's not yet known if this was the truth or a slip of the tongue. 
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      · 2 months ago
      @Slb It has now been corrected. She misspoke.
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    · 2 months ago
    I'm blind, and blind people had all this with dla and then pipp. time to tell govt again what living with blindness is like yet again,  as they like to forget their learning every fifteen years or so. 
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    · 2 months ago
    I have been watching Liz Kendall speaking in the house of commons and I feel she is pulling a very fast one specially with regards the Timms review to be done later and the issue of this being subject to primary legislation. I don't agree myself in regulations (ie secondary legislation) which routinely get past parliament without due scrutiny.
    We are being mislead by this government, and there are many slight of hands in this governments so called u-turn which is being clawed back. I hope this bill is defeated because I think this does not represent a real u-turn and that this should not be rushed through and dropped and delayed until further consultations of with disabled people and disabled charities and organisations.
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    · 2 months ago
    So, from what Kendall has said this afternoon, any current claimants being reassessed after November 2026 will fall under the old rules.  She was vague over whether those on DLA will be moved to PIP or be classed as new or an existing claim.   

    The reforms that Timms is looking into will cover descriptors and points etc among other things.  That means that when (if) a new form comes in, the 4 point rule will stand, but this crop of current claimants  should still be under the old rules, but not sure about whether the new form will be applied to us.  I'm not sure if that matters, to be honest, because there will be another govt in 2029 unless something changes drastically, and that will mean we go through all of this again and existing rules will again be torn up.

    I'm not convinced about Timms' reforms working with disabled people.  There's no reason why we should be.  The recent green paper consultation was a sham, with disabled people shut out by intention or incompetence.  That element of the concessions require trust, and the truth is that nobody trusts Timms or Kendall, and so, for this to move forward, they both need to be replaced.


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    · 2 months ago
    https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2025-06-30/hcws755

    The thing is that Kendall says that the planning stage of reform of pip assessments (being done by timms) due for completion autumn 2026 will be written with full collaboration of the disabled community 

    However didn’t the Labour manifesto also say that the disabled community would be fully involved with any future decision that affects us

    What we know for certain is that in the 10 months since Labour have been in power they have gone out of their way to shut us off or shut the disabled down.

    This all comes down to what Kendall’s and timms definition of full collaboration and imput is

    And if precedent is anything to go by I’d bet our definitions are very different and the gov will continue freezing out disabled ppls concerns and ideas
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      · 2 months ago
      @D
      Yes exactly.  The so called consultation they already done, that wasn't really a consultation and was a sham, a formality, purely so they could say they did consult.  They did it only to prevent a repeat of Ellen Clifford and the Tories losing in court over lack of consultation.  

      They haven't published that sham consultation or analysed or read the responses.  They haven't acted on or listened to anything anyone said in the responses at all.

      There will be no consulting with anyone they do not want or choose to consult.  It will be their chosen 'stakeholders', 'charities', 'experts', 'think tanks' etc.  Even if they did consultations with real DPO's and us, they won't listen, they'll disagree with everything, it will come to a state of loggerheads.  They'll just say they can't do any of what we want and it is essential they do everything they have already planned.

      This whole thing is a joke, a complete farce and a mess.  I hope it is voted down massively and Labour MP's come to their senses.  I fail to see how any MP with half a brain cell could possibly vote for any of this!

      If it somehow gets voted through, I want to see immediate and multiple legal cases taken against the lot of it in every possible way as well as UN, ECHR, Equality Comission etc take action.  Also the charities to completely condemn, the Unions to pull all support for Labour and so on.
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    · 2 months ago
    Fools rush inn where even angles fear to tread 
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    · 2 months ago
    Timms new PIP assessment system with changes to descriptors and points is now going to finalised in Autumn 2026 and then implement as soon as possible. 
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    · 2 months ago
    Do we know yet if the "Right to Try" will be enforced onto claimants by a Mandatory requirement or will it be a Voluntary option?
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    · 2 months ago
    Lies, lies and more lies 
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    · 2 months ago
    What a ludicrous way to create policy. Expecting MP's to understand the complex implications of these cuts in, essentially, a few hours. On this basis alone, they should be refusing to vote! It's totally irresponsible.
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    · 2 months ago
    Can we start talking about all the benefits MP's receive aka expenses?
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      · 2 months ago
      @Old Mother their breakfast, snacks lunch, dinner, drinks, first class train travel, hotels, fights, taxis. sky and other subscriptions, home phones, home and broadband, iPads  computers.  millions in expences.  



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      · 2 months ago
      @Dave Dee make freedom of Information requests for what our mps have claimed 
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      · 2 months ago
      @Dave Dee Why do they need second homes paid for by us.  And expenses.  Paid for by us.  
      People commute to London every day and don’t get a second home paid for. Or their energy bills. 
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    · 2 months ago
    Rough sleeping in London hits record high

    https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/rough-sleeping-london-chain-2025/
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    · 2 months ago
    "impact on poverty levels for individuals in the financial year ending (FYE) 2030"
    But it's not is it. As it does not include the impact of:

    Knock on effect of not being eligible for PIP on other benefits for example housing support
    Loss of exemption if under 35 to only being eligible to room in a shared house rate
    Living in social housing loss of 1 extra room exemption to under occupancy penalty
    Living in someone else's house loss of exemption to counting as a non dependant expected to pay towards rent.

    2026 Narrowing the UC LCWRA Severe criteria no longer includes substantial risk group and as written for schedule 7 descriptors requires continuous rather than most of the time.

    2028 New PIP assessment

    2028 Abolishing the WCA and UC LCW and LCWRA. Replaced by UC health element with eligibility based on receiving PIP daily living component

    Increased conditionality and sanctions regimes for claimants who previously would have been LCW or LCWRA. And for those on UC health.

    Abolishing contributions based ESA / New Style ESA

    Removing eligibility to PIP from those aged 16, 17
    Removing eligibility to UC health from those aged 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. 
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    · 2 months ago
    From Guardian live feed:

    Sadiq Khan says he still has 'serious concerns' about welfare bill
    Sadiq Khan, the Labour mayor of London, has said the concessions made by the government on the welfare bill do not go far enough. Speaking on LBC, he said:

    I welcome the changes announced by the government, and I welcome that the government has pledged to work with disabled people and disabled groups. [See 10.18am.]

    But I still have serious concerns about these plans. I’ve met too many Londoners who do work, but through no fault of their own need support from the state, and they’re really worried they’ll lose that.

    The mission of the Labour government should be to support people out of poverty and this bill still needs radical transformation to be fit for purpose.

    I’m hoping today and tomorrow the government go further to address the concerns many of us have.
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    · 2 months ago
    Hi B&W, I thought the report said it will push an extra 150,000 into poverty?
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    · 2 months ago
    it is a con trick. everyone affected,   disabled, family members and carers should vote against labour at any opportunity.  labour is the nasty party. 

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